Yep it was with a revo. was a huge jump. that is pretty sick IMO. I like CERTAIN traxxas products. i just make sure i get a ton of feed back form others before i buy. I do the same with HPI to cause though the savage series is nice the others are not so great.

My bad then.:neutral: I never saw it. Sorry. Put the cc mmm combo in a E Maxx and do 3 or 4 60' jumps and tell me what you have left. Broken shock towwers, bulkheads, control arms, and maybe a chassis. Ask anyone that has owned a E Maxx. Apples to apples.The revo chassis really has nothing in common with any other MT does it? It's like compairing a E Revo to an E 8ight T. Both have big tires. That is about it.

The revo is still an MT and should be compared with other MT's.

I like the savages I just thought when I drove them they handled like a brick. The e-savage to me was a joke because it really wasn't the size of the other monster trucks. The maxx is probably not as durable as the standard savage but it does have other good points and is still the platform that started the whole monster truck revolution.

yep i totally agree. Both companies have made name for themselves that is for sure. And Traxxas started it all. I just search and find what is best and go with that. Brand doesn't matter to me. Only the reviews/opinions of others on the particular vehicle.

...be aware that motors with built-in heatsink cases will not be able to be used because the heatsink will get in the way of the motor clamps...So we are stuck with smooth cased motors...

Yup, both have there strengths and weaknesses. I just hate when I see people saying such and such truck is garbage and this other truck is vastly superior. None of the MT's I have seen on the market are vastly superior to any other.

Ah was fixin to say -well said - ya'll!

you just need to know where to look :rules::lol:

link

in terms of size and dimensions, is the FLUX the same size as the Savage XL? the bigger MT?

I'm not too familiar with MT's yet, but which will be more durable, the E-Revo or this new FLUX?

i already know that the E-Revo will out handle this HPI, I'm more for bashing....

The Savage Flux HP is the same size as the Savage X. (It's based on the same platform)

As for durability, I do own an E-Revo and in stock form it wasn't perfectly durable. I broke a few tie rods and two a-arms. Then I upgraded to RPM (Tru-Track in the back, A-Arms in the front) and I haven't broken a thing since. Even with a MMM/Neu combo in it.

That said, I think the Savage will be a little more durable stock than the stock E-Revo, but with either one I'd recommend upgrading to RPM A-Arms for maximum durability.

And I agree on the handling thing. The E-Revo is by far the best handling MT I've ever driven, especially with some tweaks (Different Springs and sway bars) but the Savage is without question a phenomenal bashing machine. I plan to get a Savage Flux HP for bashing and tune my E-Revo solely for racing.

I have a FLM Savage E Brushless E-Revo and a Brushless E-Maxx
Novak 6.5 E-Revo handles like a vette jumps and Bashes great (only upgrade is True track)
Novak E-Maxx you need to upgrade the hole truck
MMM FLM Savage Great Truck (Just to Heavy!!!) part can't seam to handle to Power

Well, I placed my order for this on Tower last night. It'll be around 580 shipped. Hope this isnt going to be a long drug out release.

Will look forward to reviews. I am sure you won't be disappointed though.

I think for Xmas I will be building a savage. Im going to go with the FLM kit. I like the lay out better

Still, I will be waiting for the reviews!

..Have to agree with that...Lets just hope we can fit the Flux center unit into it :oops: Looks ok though...

Big Squid has a review up of the Flux with more pix and some video.

The batt trays do look pretty good. Nice thing to see is that it looks like the tranny would be a direct swap. Hard to tell for sure, but looks just like the nitro tranny pattern. Would make nitro conversions a real snap I would think. I have a nitro XL, but if I get tired of it, swapping it over should be a piece of cake.

Seems the battery trays differ in pictures at the HPI site. In some pictures the sides are closed and in some they have holes.
Here's a pic with no holes and here with holes.

The BigSquid Savage seems to have these holes too, so I presume the production model comes with those. Whether it's good or bad remains to be seen.

There's a picture of an opened Flux tranny at RC Universe, here.
I'm 100% positive that the transmission is straight fit to nitro models, but it's interesting to see that HPI has gone the easy way and kept the 2nd gear "pinion" at the input shaft (which is useless).
To my eye there's only one new gear at the tranny, all the other gears look like they're straight from the 2spd.
This ofcourse is proofed only when we can get hold of the exploded views & part numbers, so don't put your money on the line just because I'm telling so... :intello:

Now the diffs - the bevel & pinion gears do have their own HPI part number which differs from all the other Savage ones, including the XL's. Flux's gear number is #102246 and XL's #86248 according to the HPI-Europe's Savage line-up (scroll down the page to comparison chart).
This obviously tells that the gears are (or atleast should) be stronger than in the XL.

Interesting for sure. On the diff part# issue, it could also be that they are a different ratio, rather than just hardend (I know traxxas uses an 'x' next to beefed up versions of stock parts often, not sure if HPI do the same).

Maybe someone should shoot HPI a email and see what they say :lol:

Check out this link:
http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/dm/newproducts.pdf

It has a different part number and a "new" designation for the gearbox/bulkheads. A friend translated it for me and basically it says that they have been redesigned and reinforced to prevent the ring and pinion from losing mesh under high, sudden torque.

Just received a reply to my e-mail to HPI. Looks like the diff bearings are larger as well.

"Thank you for contacting HPI Racing and Hot Bodies customer service. It looks like we did change the bearing size on the new Savage Flux and we also changed the material on the diff as well to make them stronger. We also have changed the diff bulk head so all around the diffs are upgraded.



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Very interesting, good job. Wonder if these new parts will bolt into a savage....

i have a savage flux and it is AWESOME! i havent broken a thing, and it has lasted 2 months! (approx). i even won some races!

Savage-Flux, I dont think that a 2nd place trophy counts if it was just you and me in the main lol (every one else broke)

and you snapped your battery boxes, Remember?

EDIT: and way to bring up a thread from January just to say a dumb comment

atleast im not using the cheap china batteries called zippys and are NOT under warranty for the MMM or the BLUR ESC and atleast i can get to top speed without breaking 2 of my driveshafts before your Crating fluctuates. and i didnt take out a recycling box with my revo XD. and btw i have that on film. LOL.

First of all ALOT of people on here use zippy batteries.
Second you have never been able to get to top speed, you didnt want to put the gps on your savage because you know you would crash
Third the reason that low quality batteries can cause the MMM to fail is nothing to do with the C Rating Fluctuating. It is because of Ripple Current created during brakeing.
And lastly I dont think that you can control a truck going almost 70mph 1/2 as good as I

You both sound like some whiners to me...

How about some data to back up your half assed claims?

What is the deal with most flux owners? Is it just me or do the large majority seem to be noobs? I know some of the "good ole boys" here have flux savvys but they just do not seem to be having the problems that others are...

You read my mind james :neutral:

since they seem to know all the answers why do there esc's keep failing..:oh:

I think it has something to do with the vast reserves of previous experience with large scale brushless that they all have...

thats why I see so many of there posts here isnt it?

I think the staggering electric knowledge base over at the HPI forums may be the root.

You know what they are starting to remind me of?

*cough traxxas*

Yeah, they are making me nervous - I'm gonna send HPI an email and ask them what they are going to do about it!:lol:

I dont want to go 82 mph with an RC. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA YOU FAIL. THE END

My flux works fine, but I get a tad carried away at times.

So does that make me a noob?

They are more talking about noobs like "Savage-Flux" that get sold 3400mah 18c 3s batteries from the LHS. Thats only 61.2 amps!

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...a5b/images.jpg

Is all that is!

no you are wrong. i have used theese batteries for 2 months now and are perfectly fine.

nerd, and im no noob. and stop fighting on the internet, its childish..........:rules::no: anyway off to ignoring you, time to move on.

Considering you're such a know it all, maybe you should run for president, your talents are clearly wasted on us mere mortals.