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MetalMan 03.28.2009 10:23 PM

Or maybe better shimming?!?! I've never done that to center diff gears...

crazyjr 03.29.2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candyman2 (Post 273958)
Those who doubted the sheer throbbing power of my NIMH here are my center diff gears lol.

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-36.JPG

never doubted the power, just the weight contributed. Lipo's will save weight and possibly take some stress off those gears, Nice power though.

lutach 03.29.2009 08:24 PM

Are those the heavy duty gears? I had the normal gears in my BPP truggy and they are too weak. After I switched to the heavy duty ones, I never had any problems even with 10S with a Neu 1521/1Y.

Candyman2 04.05.2009 03:51 AM

Hello, no they were just stock gears, I have the heavy duty, hardened hot bodies gears now and all is well on planet candyman :yipi:

Im surprised at how cool everything stays, after 5 minutes of heavy driving in my maxx its about ready to shut down, but this..... well 10 minutes of heavy driving and its barely warm, very unusual, because of the low kv i guess.

Anyway I spent my "lipo" money on a nice HD camcorder so you can all see my nimh's in hi-res :lol: this is a short clip, my camera person quickly got bored filming the truck :no:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDHecB8VNX4

if you click the little HD logo it looks much clearer :rofl:

TheRandom1 04.05.2009 01:31 PM

Damn! That's uh... wow. Just don't hit anybody with it, unless you don't want them to walk again! lol

Byte 04.05.2009 03:43 PM

Very nice and clean car you have over there! I'm really jalous on the motor mount you made. Compared to mine it's just really damn freaking awesome! :lol: (But I only had a drill and my Dad)

Still one question, you said you bought your aluminium on eBay, right? Can you post a link or something? I can't find any 7075 aluminium on eBay...


Thanks

Candyman2 04.05.2009 04:16 PM

me either, i had to settle for 6061, or you can email some of the bigger sellers on there, sometimes they can get hold of aircraft grade stuff. I only got strong stuff for my chassis plate, the rest is just regular stuff, thats why I made the motor mount so thick. Failing that 6082 is a pretty strong but cheaper, more redily available grade.

suicideneil 04.05.2009 10:51 PM

Camera person... :mdr:

Women are more trouble than they're worth- my truck is a girlfriend substitute in itself....

Always Dreamin 04.09.2009 10:10 PM

So nice! great work, great paint job, great looking truck!

SpeedAssault 04.17.2009 12:23 AM

I like it,
Nice design
very nice job

What mill machine are you using?
Didn't see it mentioned

Joey 04.17.2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 279973)
I like it,
Nice design
very nice job

What mill machine are you using?
Didn't see it mentioned

Checkout page 3 ;)

Looks incredible CM, that aluminum work is astounding. Im confused about what you do to cut the long straight lines on the aluminum, how do you do it on your machines?

Candyman2 04.17.2009 03:04 AM

its a Sieg X1,

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ryan.co...lathe-mill.jpg

only little. I have a vice mounted on the table of my mill, most stuff gets clamped in that, im not an engineer, not have I been trained in how to mill, so the way I use my mill is probably not how its "supposed" to be done, i dont know. Its not that hard I find I can do 95% of what I want quite easily.

Joey 04.17.2009 03:18 AM

Ok so... the mill (drill press?) is on the left and lathe on the right? Im still confused, if you clamp the alu down in a vice, what do you move across it to make the long cuts? Or do you clamp it to part of the mill that can slide, and use a special drill bit to slide the alu against to make the cut?

Sorry for the questions, Ive just always wondered about this.

_paralyzed_ 04.17.2009 03:28 AM

if you look at the vise on the mill bench (the machine on the left) you can see there are handles to either screw it in or out straight or left to right. The bits are designed to cut sideways, rather than straight down. So you set the bit and then turn the handles until you have the desired cut.

edit: the handles are part of the mill bench, the vise is mounted atop that

Joey 04.17.2009 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 280003)
if you look at the vise on the mill bench (the machine on the left) you can see there are handles to either screw it in or out straight or left to right. The bits are designed to cut sideways, rather than straight down. So you set the bit and then turn the handles until you have the desired cut.

edit: the handles are part of the mill bench, the vise is mounted atop that

Clears that up, thanks! :yipi:

Candyman2 08.09.2009 10:56 AM

Had to beef up the wishbone mounts, they normally just screw to the gearbox cases, I have made these to sit on and bolt to the chassis aswell.

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-37.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-38.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-39.JPG

Superbasher 08.09.2009 10:58 AM

Looks very beefy, nice :) Are you running LiPo's in that yet?

Candyman2 08.09.2009 11:01 AM

no of course not, why would i.

suicideneil 08.09.2009 11:03 AM

When hell freezes over... :lol:

I like those parts, they look factory.

Any progress on the next-gen emaxx chassis that matches the design of this one?

Candyman2 08.09.2009 11:09 AM

lol, well honestly whats the point, as you can see from the video its got all the power you need. Its only a 1515 Neu (1100kv) after all they dont draw that much current! and judging by the "UNBELIEVABLE Neu on 6S" video that I watched the other day, yawn, i think I can survive with my nimh's.

No more work on the E maxx, I was quite enjoying running my maxx with the new chassis untill I cooked my plettenberg, when I get the Neu in it I'll run that a bit more. Its a lot more stable with the longer wheelbase but still wheelies a lot, I just need to tune it.

suicideneil 08.09.2009 11:16 AM

Cool, fair dos.

On the wheelie issue, I could never tone my truck down enough to prevent them. Non-effective slipper asside, the front would always pick up beyond about half throttle and thats when accidents started happening; I have resigned myself to using my home brew 6" wheelie bar, it works extremely well and still makes the truck enjoyable, but alot more controllable at higher speeds- worth concidering I reckon, even if it was just used for speed runs.

Candyman2 08.09.2009 12:34 PM

yeh, i gave up on the solid center section in the end and switched to a diff. I found with about half 500k and half 100k oil its thick enough to lift the front up, but it does it slowly and give you enough time to let of the throttle without it going straight over.

What do you have in the middle of your maxx?

suicideneil 08.09.2009 02:36 PM

A 3906 tranny, converted to single speed with the GorillaMaxx conversion, and also has an Rc4wd.com aluminium output gear (still running Mike's steel idler though). The slipper is stock 3906, only its glued & tightened down fully; I tried a 3905 slipper (modified input shaft and parts purchased form TDC57 I think it was), but the plate the slipper pads attach to is only pot metal and it cracked when tightened up a bit = chocolate teapot...

Bondonutz 08.09.2009 03:18 PM

Very Nice work ! I'm a big Fan of the LSP's, Have 2 myself and yours is by far the nicest I've seen. A++

Byte 08.09.2009 03:58 PM

Candymann? Could you post a video when you're making an aluminium part with the mill? I still can't imagine that a person can make SUCH beautifull aluminium parts with his hands...
(I can't find anything on youtube, only mini mills that are "converted" to CNC)

Candyman2 08.09.2009 05:40 PM

Neil: lol yeh i know what you mean, the strobe slipper is about the best thing I used. if you can gear low enough you could concider switching to a center diff? its a big step though.

Bondonutz: Thank you, appreciate that

Byte: hmmm, not so easy im afraid, each bit took about an hour, thats a lot of video!

suicideneil 08.10.2009 09:35 PM

Requires some BennyHill style video editing me thinks... :mdr:

Candyman2 06.12.2010 03:39 PM

Some action on my Lightning, I have lipo...... :lol: come on people!

CANDYMAN HAS LIPO :party::na:

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-43.JPG

$100 delivered, 2 x flightmax zippy things, 5000mah, 30C 3S (http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=8587)

running side by side for 6s fun. Charging on an Icharger, in the end I cut the tap on one pack, joined them together and charge it like a 6s pack, all is well :smile:

machined me up some delrin trays, perfect fit, quite proud of these.

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-44.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-45.JPG

Need to have a rearrange in the chassis and move some things around. The power is great, my IB's were starting to loose there edge and now with 6s its a wheelie machine :) its as quick as my maxx now and easier to drive being a low truggy. Im concidering breaking up my maxx and selling it, maybe using the money to build a truggy chassis up and fit my maxx shell and wheels, like another evolution.

anyway, new lid and rims on the lightning too

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-46.jpg

suicideneil 06.13.2010 05:16 AM

Now thats all kind of sexy right there- Mike will be suing you for copyright though, such is the awesomeness of the chassis and battery tray design :lol:

Curious as to what you did with the balancing wires- did you run them both together into a single 6s tap, or something different ( quick diagram/photo )?

I dunno about parting out maxxBling though, that would mean the end of an era, though Im sure there would be buyers for the VBS and custom chassis- just make sure you take shed loads of Hi-res pictures and frame them as a momento.

I knew you'd like the lipos though- the feeling of power & ability to pull rolling wheelies beyond half throttle is just beautiful; grin inducing that lasts for hours afterwards... :yes:

Candyman2 06.13.2010 06:00 AM

sure thing, like this

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/balcell.gif

so I trimmed my taps so the little lug is still on one side, this way they only go in one way.

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-47.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-48.JPG

the removed one is just a dulpicate. As you advised me though, still need a powerful charger to do the 6s at 5 amps.

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-49.JPG

suicideneil 06.14.2010 10:30 AM

Sweeeeeet, now thats inspired work, even accounted for the 1 negative wire & rest being positive with the zippy balancing plug layout vs viceversa on the diagram :yes:

Not so sure on the crocodile clips > bullet connectors, but if they arent heating up then thats cool, nothing to worry about.

Candyman2 06.25.2011 03:44 PM

New video :yipi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_42v0t633w4

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/lsp-53.jpg

suicideneil 06.25.2011 04:53 PM

That thing has alot of power, wheelies really easily and goes like stink too :yes:

Candyman2 06.25.2011 04:59 PM

Hello mate, hope you are well.

Thanks, it gets the most use out of all my cars, very low and wide, doesnt roll over easy and so is very easy to drive.

Candyman2 12.21.2011 01:51 PM

Had a chassis re-design to get the motor out in front, painted a new shell too :)

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00421.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00422.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00423.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00424.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00417.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00418.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00419.JPG

http://www.ukmonsters.co.uk/lsp/ligh...2/DSC00420.JPG

lutach 12.21.2011 03:21 PM

Just amazing.

suicideneil 12.21.2011 03:55 PM

Man's got skill, not sure which layout I prefer as they are both so well executed :yes:

Same wheelbase or slightly longer now, kinda hard to judge?

coolhandcountry 12.21.2011 08:42 PM

Both designs look great.
I kind of like the layout of the second myself.
Move weight forward and weight down lower.
Great work either way.

Candyman2 12.22.2011 04:44 AM

managed to keep the wheelbase the same, it was a close fit with the T8 truggy motor.

I also made bigger heatsinks for te MGM esc :)

coolhandcountry 12.22.2011 02:35 PM

Do you like the forward motor better to drive?


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