I have 2, they're awesome. Ebay has the best prices.

No doubt, but I am not a 'bay-er and I'd rather spend a few extra bucks and know I'll get the 808 version. Just my preference. But there's other options jpop, the Turnigy cam thread with lots of info about the kc as well-
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25715

At least you had a go and you did produce something quite unique looking. I did originally think the length of the chassis would take any agility away from the savage. Thats why i feel the DB-17 is just about as long as you should go. keep us posted and dont give up on the savage just yet! you have spent a lot of money on the bulks and towers etc.. .so give it one more go with the chassis and use the lipo boxes to find a nice balance!

Heres one for $10.00 deleivered
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Mini-Hidden-...item27b217e29e

The support is much appreciated, thanks all you guys !

I guess after seeing that list of cars on your signature I'm not surprised you don't like the handling. I also had a baja but sold it cause it was big, heavy and just not zippy (not to mention noisy, but that was part of it). I agree that if you ran higher voltage you might reconsider but then I reckon maintenance will be more of an issue so might as well do a baja conversion (just thinking of that resent vid). I still don't want to own a savage but this build and Finsters 1/6 had certainly peaked my interest in them.

I can't believe a company can produce and ship those cams for less than $10. May not be the original manufacturer but omg they're still making profit :surprised:

Sheared the rear CVD today within the first few minutes, replaced it with another LST2 (they are the perfect lenth)
Went back out and ran 1 minute and broke the trans, even with a properly set slipper ?

Too Heavy !
I'm def chopping 5" off when I feel motivated, Gonna take a break from RC for a week.
I need to do some fishing, haven't ben out on the boat in months. No wonder I'm stressed ?

Wow, that thing is tearing itself up fast. My DB17 weighs 13.5 pounds RTR with no body.

Mine weighs 16.4lbs RTR with body.

fiberglass body?

No. 5B body.

Oh ok. That body is light so the chassis must be heavy. I never weighed my 5b.

Well at 5mm it is pretty heavy. I was surpised that nutz' chassis weighted in at 18 lbs, I was expecting more along the lines of mine.

Yep thats what mine weighs with my light lipos... with my hyperion 6500mah lipos it weighs 14.2lbs... But i think i have added more weight to the truck recently.... I thought, with 9s i would need a little more weight for stability at speed....

I did remove the gearbox to save a lot of weight, but i did add GH Alloy Bulks which are a little heavy, and a 4mm alloy plate for my motor plate....

Once i am done, i will re weigh the truck

Can't wait for new ESC to come out. I'd like to run 8s or even 10s. Just have to get the appropriate motor.

Revamp
 

I ultimately decide to just use the DB-17 chassis due to time constant and the fact I didn't feel like messing with it.

The giant 22" wheelbase chassis is for sale now if anyones interested ??

Heres what I've done now;

Since I bought another 1717 I thought I squeeze my 1717 Heli version into my DB-17 chassis. Hope this well help you fellas wanting to do the same ?

The 1717 Heli version is needed unless you grind one side of the can flat ?

Use a dremel deburing bit to hog out the 3mm slots on a FLM or RCM Revo 3.3 Nitro conversion mount.

This is the gimmick I used and it made short work of the aluminum, a small round file will work but you'll be there a while.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240011.jpg

1717 installed
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240013.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240014.jpg

I then cut a piece of 2" X 3" X 3/16" flat stock and drilled and tapped holes (4mm)for it to be mounted where the original Flux mount went on the motor plate.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240015.jpg

I then eyeballed where I wanted the mount to be on the tapped plate for optimum gear choice (I can easily use a 10T pinion up to at least a 18T with the way I've done this) I counter sunk the holes that the hardware attaches the FLM/RCM mount to the plate.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240016.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240017.jpg

Then once all together I placed the assembly on the Flux motor mount plate and eyeballed where I needed to trim the chassis to allow the FatBoy 1717. I didn't have to remove much, it took a little bit because I had to cut a little reinstall, cut a little etc etc. After I filed the cut edges I ran over the shiney alum w/a black sharpie.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240018.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240019.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...E/P9240020.jpg

The draw back to stuffing this pig in here is I have to relocate the servo from the original FLM servo plate and reinstall on the side of the chassis rail but I'm not comlaining.

HA, I'm doing what you just did. DB17 with a 1717. I won't be using that motor mount and I did not buy the heli version.

I will be building/making my a motor mount out of some 1/4" stainless steel square tube I found at my job. Just have to cut it down to size, drill out the motor mount side, and tap the bottom for the stock mounting screws.

The piece I'm cutting out of is around 4" x 6" x 36". I'll be cutting a small L out of it.

This is what the metal I will be using looks like (similar).

http://images.onlinemetalstore.com/f...E_RECT_OMS.jpg

Not sure what your gonna make(design) but what I did took under 1 hour. Fast and simple mod.

Be curious to see what you make.

Skip this post. Check further down for my cardboard mock up.

what batteries are you planning on running with this set up? what gearing did you set it up with? very cool project i like the looks of beefy. :) cant wait to see some video as well, if thats in the plans.

I won't be getting started on it until my motor shows up so I make everything as right as I can the first time.

There are a few other detail that are hard to explain and draw in 2D.

Here's a mock up in cardboard. :)

The bottom part will be cut to fit the mounting holes.

This is a spare 2200kv in this mock up.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...C/IMG_5235.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...C/IMG_5236.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...C/IMG_5237.jpg

I have the same questions. :)

My idea is to run 6s with a 25T pinion and stock spur. Should still hit 60+mph with this setup.

My current DB17 is running stock motor, spur and pinion with non-bp diffs and high speed idler. This setup hits 50mph on 4s (53mph via gps, no crash). If my math is correct, it should be possible for me to hit 67mph on 6s with the 1580kv motor. Seems high to me, but the math works out.

Motor RPM drops down ~28%. I increase the pinion by 25% and up the voltage by 50%.

Am I making it to simple? I know wind, friction, and weight make a difference, but not enough to stop me from hitting 60mph.

As of now I'm running 6s and geared for 43mph, top speed just doesn't intrest me with something of this format. After all, It's a Monster Truck, It's supposed to jump,climb etc.

I soon expect the XL-HV and will be running 8s, I think 10s will be a bit overboard with 1500kv.

FYI, aint no way that cardboard will hold ! JK, I know it's mocked.

i agree im using some quality paper mache for mine. should be solid.

At least reinforce it with some Elmers and toothpicks :whistle:

Shame you didn't enjoy the beastly custom version you made, however I totally understand your position on it. I'm building a DB17 at the moment, and have considered cutting my own TVPs to go bigger... But I thought about it, and having had an RB3 kit from GCM before I have come to the conclusion that they know what they are doing. A lot of the products are feedback based and if they thought a 20 inch + version would be good I'm sure they would be marketing it.

At that weight and size you are going to push the envelope of what the parts are going to take and also most likely have a negative effect on the handling of the truck. To be honest at the moment I'm even reconsidering the XL chassis length, the only thing that keeps me going is the astounding lightness of the GCM trucks you guys are getting.

To be honest, when the Flux originally surfaced I was in a position to buy one, but chose to build up an RB3 instead, based on the fact it used an E-savage as a base truck (mine was a custom build from the ground up, but it used a few E-sav parts) reasoning that a truck that had only ever been envisioned as a nitro vehicle, whose weight was it's own worst enemy and whose drivetrain up to that point had only ever had to deal with some fruity nitro motors was only going to obliterate itself when confronted with something as brutal as a Neu motor. The RB3 only needed a good quality 50-60mm motor on 3s to be as quick as a flux on 4s, and the weight saving was tremendous, mine was 3.7kg ready to run yet was the same length and width as a standard Flux.

Now though I have come round to the Flux, figuring I'd give it a pop and see what happened. The tranny worries me a tad...

The flux tranny is strong with the HD gears.

Build carrys on from here;

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28168