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aqwut 04.10.2011 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 403911)
very interested to see how that 5692 runs! Please keep us posted! Thanks

It will be going into my 4x4 FG, I really doubt that it would be able to handle that monster truck... but we will see I guess...

x-y 04.13.2011 11:59 PM

waiting notices/videos/tests of your leopards aqwut ;) ......... soon I will receive my package and I will make tests ....

x-y 04.27.2011 07:13 AM

soon tests ;)


http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/t...h/S1400003.jpg

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/t...h/S1400002.jpg

Dj_Sparky 04.27.2011 08:36 AM

How'd you guys order from the RC-fans site? I'm guessing that's where you got the 5692 for 100$ or so, but it's only wholesale?

kievyu 04.27.2011 07:53 PM

my 1/5 brushless photo ...

http://www.fotop.net/Patrick/Patrick524/DSC_3697

x-y 05.04.2011 11:53 PM

after 15batts all the leopards and hobbywing escs works perfect ;)

the leopards are incredible cold ...... lower hot than the xerun 4274 :)

100% recommended

Dj_Sparky 05.05.2011 12:47 AM

Someone. Please. I've asked several times now, but how do you order from the wholesale site? There isn't even a pricetag available.

nuz69 05.05.2011 04:26 AM

I have break the rule and buy one leopard hobby brushless motor (4074 1400Kv in my 6S buggy).
It works perfectly, but the quality does not come even close to the Castle motors : the wires are in fact the windings, the can does not have cooling fins, which make it heat more than the Castle, the rotor looks very messy with its strange kevlar...
But with an additionnal heatsink, it runs as cool as my Castle motors, and the efficiency is the same, moreover the bearing are as big as Castle one's, so for the price, it's a good choice if you want a small Kv motor with high voltage setup. I will try some tuning, like put Castle rotor in and see what happen...
I just wait that Castle build its 1515 1.5Y 1466Kv motor to replace it !

Jahay 05.05.2011 06:29 AM

i am very tempted to try one of the leopard 1000kv motors but i am struggling to believe that when the can is smaller than a castle 1520 1600kv motor, can it really deal with the stress of running 10s???? Maybe it can? But i think i will give it a go and test it at some point...

Jahay 05.05.2011 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-y (Post 405822)
after 15batts all the leopards and hobbywing escs works perfect ;)

the leopards are incredible cold ...... lower hot than the xerun 4274 :)

100% recommended

bud thanks for the update.. any chance of some vids of these running? and temps being recorded after your runs and break down of your gearing etc and weight of the rcs?

Sorry about asking for a lot, but i just want to get a better idea...

CHEERS

JOSH

Jahay 05.05.2011 08:33 AM

i was reading some descriptions, but i am unsure as to what is accurate!

I was looking at the Leopard 4082 1000kv or 1250kv (42x82mm can)
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...o-4082&cat=148

But it says that they should only run 25,000-35,000 rpm???

It is a little low right? Because on 9s a 1250kv motor is spinning at 41,000rpm... That seems acceptable right?

DrKnow65 05.05.2011 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 405852)
i was reading some descriptions, but i am unsure as to what is accurate!

I was looking at the Leopard 4082 1000kv or 1250kv (42x82mm can)
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...o-4082&cat=148

But it says that they should only run 25,000-35,000 rpm???

It is a little low right? Because on 9s a 1250kv motor is spinning at 41,000rpm... That seems acceptable right?

Those RPM suggestions are from OSE (off shore electrics), and seem to just be a very general guide line...

In my experience a tame setup is 25-30k, a performance setup is 30-40k, and a screaming setup is 40k and up. I think the higher the RPM the motor peaks at the more aggressive the acceleration is getting to that RPM. I've settled in at around 38-40k for the best compromise of power and run time for most of my rigs :-)

kievyu 05.05.2011 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 405848)
i am very tempted to try one of the leopard 1000kv motors but i am struggling to believe that when the can is smaller than a castle 1520 1600kv motor, can it really deal with the stress of running 10s???? Maybe it can? But i think i will give it a go and test it at some point...

4082/2.5y for 9s ... 4082/3y for 10s ... rpm don't over 50000 !

Overdriven 05.06.2011 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 405848)
i am very tempted to try one of the leopard 1000kv motors but i am struggling to believe that when the can is smaller than a castle 1520 1600kv motor

Part of the difference in diameter is the fins of the CC motor. The rest, who knows wihout internal dimensions on both. Either way the difference in size is too close to have much of an impact. Lack of fins, construction and materials differences would have a bigger impact.

nuz69 05.06.2011 07:56 PM

The 4082 is equivalent to a Castle 1518 I think...

Jahay 05.07.2011 05:08 AM

considering i already have 9s worth or lipos... i would most prob go for the 4082/2.5y for 9s
Im just shocked that the size of the can is of that of the 1518!!! Smaller than a 1520! i dont know how well it will be able to cope with my heavier truck... only one way to find out i guess haha

Just out of curiousity... if a motor fails and implodes, would and esc blow too?

nuz69 05.07.2011 05:18 AM

It depends if you stop pushing the trigger in time I think ^^

x-y 05.09.2011 11:49 AM

I use the leopard 4074 2150kv + 3s + ezrun sc8 in a buggy of 4kg in races of about 15min ........... the temperature of the motor is great ..... never up 55cº

I have neus and xeruns and the temperature of the leopard are lower than the others ....... using the correct gearing ;)

leopard 4282 + 9s = will kill the motor sure :p

if you search use this motor in crazy projects I recommend max 4-6s

Dj_Sparky 05.09.2011 12:57 PM

2150kv on 3s is pretty tame, and I don't think any motor whatsoever would get hot with that kind of setup and right gearing.

Nixpus 05.09.2011 03:40 PM

Regarding the RPM limit from Off Shore... I'd guess its a matter of the application rather than the motor. Think about it... even 25k RPM is mind boggling for a propeller... you need the right prop or you'll just make alot of bubbles :)

Hope it made sense?

x-y 05.09.2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 406090)
2150kv on 3s is pretty tame, and I don't think any motor whatsoever would get hot with that kind of setup and right gearing.

for races in 1/8tt you dont need more power than 3s +2150kv ............ in my races people use 2200+4s and 2650+3s and the speed is the same

this is my last race ....... I used a xerun 4274 and the temperature arrived at 65cº....... using the leopard 4074 provably will be 50-55cº

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uze8fsIa2LY

nuz69 05.10.2011 10:12 AM

On your track, maybe 3S + 2200Kv is enough... But in classic euro tracks, 4S 2200Kv with high gearing is requiered ^^ ~40-42mph.

Dj_Sparky 05.10.2011 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x-y (Post 406117)
for races in 1/8tt you dont need more power than 3s +2150kv ............ in my races people use 2200+4s and 2650+3s and the speed is the same

this is my last race ....... I used a xerun 4274 and the temperature arrived at 65cº....... using the leopard 4074 provably will be 50-55cº

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uze8fsIa2LY

Very nice, but I wonder how hot it would get if you pushed it? With, say, 6s and bashing (Not racing obviously..)

Still, the fact that it's colder than Xerun is quite impressive. Xerun's are getting pretty well known for quality, and Leopard is much cheaper than that Xerun motor.

bundyracer1 05.15.2011 09:19 PM

leopard 2000kv 4082 motor
 
Hi everyone, i was thinking of getting a leopard 2000kv 4082 for my brushless truggy and using it on 4s. The motor will be bought off ebay. I had a look at leopards website and they dont have a 2000kv 4082 motor. Is this motor the 2000kv 4082 only exclusive to kershaw desings?? help will be much appreciated. thanks
matt

nitrostarter 05.15.2011 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixpus (Post 406102)
Regarding the RPM limit from Off Shore... I'd guess its a matter of the application rather than the motor. Think about it... even 25k RPM is mind boggling for a propeller... you need the right prop or you'll just make alot of bubbles :)

Hope it made sense?

That's exactly right, the RPM limit on OSE is regarding boat applications.

Dj_Sparky 05.15.2011 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bundyracer1 (Post 406643)
Hi everyone, i was thinking of getting a leopard 2000kv 4082 for my brushless truggy and using it on 4s. The motor will be bought off ebay. I had a look at leopards website and they dont have a 2000kv 4082 motor. Is this motor the 2000kv 4082 only exclusive to kershaw desings?? help will be much appreciated. thanks
matt

Yeah, it's exclusive to Kershaw. Says so here, on his site: http://204.186.93.64/BrushlessMotors-Leopard.htm

kievyu 05.16.2011 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bundyracer1 (Post 406643)
Hi everyone, i was thinking of getting a leopard 2000kv 4082 for my brushless truggy and using it on 4s. The motor will be bought off ebay. I had a look at leopards website and they dont have a 2000kv 4082 motor. Is this motor the 2000kv 4082 only exclusive to kershaw desings?? help will be much appreciated. thanks
matt

website no update ... kv2000 is 4082 or 4282 3D winding ...

bundyracer1 05.16.2011 05:08 PM

well heres the motor. i sent an email to kershaw designs and he said he got the motor specifically made for his company which is pretty cool cause this motor will be a beast in any truggy lol.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....=STRK:MEWAX:IT

kievyu 05.24.2011 11:22 AM

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5692 motor

Dj_Sparky 05.24.2011 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kievyu (Post 407213)
5692 motor

What car is it in? How does it perform? What voltage are you running at? What ESC are you using with it?

x-y 05.25.2011 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 407215)
What car is it in? How does it perform? What voltage are you running at? What ESC are you using with it?

+10000 ....... we waiting more info :lol:

nuz69 05.25.2011 03:58 AM

I would say Xerun 150A for the ESC...

kievyu 05.25.2011 10:28 AM

What car is it in? DIY 1/5

How does it perform? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWJ-xnIAsFU

What voltage are you running at? 6~8s A123

What ESC are you using with it? _obby wing Xerun 150A

Dj_Sparky 05.25.2011 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kievyu (Post 407272)
What car is it in? DIY 1/5

How does it perform? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWJ-xnIAsFU

What voltage are you running at? 6~8s A123

What ESC are you using with it? hobby _ ing

Nice. :D But which ESC specifically?

suicideneil 05.25.2011 02:54 PM

Heh heh, Hobbyking isnt a naughty word on this forum, only on the idiot forum ( traxxas ).

Really impressive seeing the size of that truck compared to everything else at the track, handles pretty well too for it's size & weight.. :yes:

kievyu 05.25.2011 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 407279)
Nice. :D But which ESC specifically?

Ezrun 150A or Xerun 150A

Dj_Sparky 05.26.2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kievyu (Post 407303)
Ezrun 150A or Xerun 150A

What? You are able to run the 5692 on the Ezrun 150A?

x-y 05.27.2011 10:19 PM

the esc is a xerun 150a ...... is easy to see in the photo :D

the xerun is one of the best esc I used ....... I think better than the mmm ;)

florianz 06.18.2011 07:27 AM

yippieee! :yipi:

just have received my leopard 4082 1500 kv! after I had problems with my leo 4074 (smoked winding, don't know the reason) I am back with a leo. the ts x801 I am currently using is great, but gets too hot for my taste.

It's for my lrp truggy, I just love the feeling of a little too much power.:yes:

And I love torque, especially at low rpm. That's why I go with 1500kv on 5s (running 5s for ages now). I wished they had the 1600kv, but was not available.

the 2000kv 4074 was a good motor, but I am too used to lower kv at 5s, like 1600-1700kv as I had before.

keep you posted

Shimmy 06.19.2011 07:46 AM

I have the 4082 1600kv (originally wanted the 1500kv), running on 6s zippy 30c lipos in an MBX5T.

Pretty awesome so far, no complaints at all, especially for the price ($85).
Heaps of power, stays cool, smooth and just a brilliant performer all round.
I don't race it though.


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