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Patrick 10.18.2007 11:20 PM

Yes, the ofna 51t is Mod1 and is the only spur that I know of that fits the strobe without mods.

Were you getting 1/8th diffs soon? If you are I'd get a 20t pinion, because that will make it a tiny bit faster than 52/17 with maxx diffs. Maybe 21t.
If your not getting 1/8th diffs then a 18t should be good, maybe a 19t. 51/20 with maxx diffs is geared up a fair bit. I can use that with good temps on my 1515 2.5d (1700kv) and 5s. Should be doing basically the same rpm as your 1y (2200kv) on 4s (so same speed also), but I don't know how much lower my temps would be, because of the higher voltage. 51/20 does work ok on my car though.

mkrusedc 10.22.2007 10:25 PM

Got my spur and pinion today 51/20. It was raining with street flooding here today so no results, but I'll post new temps and speeds when I can. Thanks again for the advice.

mkrusedc 10.28.2007 12:50 AM

Well bad news. I could not fit the pinion. At the end of the motor slide I still did not have enough space. Does any one know of a single motor or different motor mount with a wider mount than the Traxxas OE mount? If not I may have to do a little modification on the OE one.

suicideneil 10.28.2007 09:43 AM

Hmm, good question. All the aftermarket ones I have seen use the same template as the stock item, as it were, so there is no extra adjustability in that department. Its either dremel time, or you could make you own mount from a small sheet of 1/4" aluminum- like this sort of:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ryan.co...jug/jugg27.JPG
Another one of the Candyman's masterpieces....

mkrusedc 10.29.2007 10:05 AM

Update
 
Funny how I titled this thread "...almost done...". I was actually thinking I was almost done, but now I realize these trucks don't ever "get done". After bashing yesterday on the levee I realized it is time to change my shocks. The Proline PowerStrokes, while are probably the best racing shocks, are to wide for my application and may be are not strong enough either.

The damage:

A sheared off top shock mount screw

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL143.../285650622.jpg

A quick pit stop to turn the shock tower around, reinstall the shocks and then another rounded out lower shock mount:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL143.../285650615.jpg

When I repaired this I noticed that the lower spring retainer had worn a groove in my 3.3 shaft. You can see it near the lower coils of the white spring in both pics.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL143.../285650625.jpg

Don't get me wrong the PowerStrokes are incredible shocks. However, I think until I stop cartwheeling as much :oops: I need a tougher set up.

I did have a blast yesterday. :party:

After about 15 minutes of bashing I got out my camera and shot the following vid. Of course the best jump, a back flip over the levee that landed on all 4 wheels we did not capture. (Kind of like the fish that got away I guess). Sorry so short:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Hi2c0lWrA :intello:

suicideneil 10.29.2007 03:12 PM

I'll say one thing, though your driving isnt very graceful, it certainly is fast when you open it up a bit on the throttle. As for the shocks..... per-chance you could find some aluminum caps and rod-end things (for the bottom end) which wouldnt strip out like the plastic ones do? Just a case of finding the right size I guess :/

mkrusedc 10.29.2007 03:27 PM

"Isn't graceful" is being kind:lol:

Most of that was actually my brother-in-law since he could not shoot the vids.:oops:

suicideneil 10.29.2007 03:38 PM

Well, a truck like the Emaxx is designed for that kind of abuse, and it does make for lots of enjoyment & funny videos.... I dread to think what would happen to the Gmaxx if I did that kinda stuff, would end up a mangled mess of 6061 t6!

coolhandcountry 10.29.2007 06:45 PM

That looks like one of my videos with my gmaxx.

jnev 10.29.2007 07:07 PM

Looks like a really fun place to bash. The whole point of having such a strong Maxx is so you can crash. :smile:

Patrick 10.29.2007 11:31 PM

:gasp: OMG, that poor e-maxx.
Tip-throttle control can keep the car flying with the wheels towards the ground :yes:. Poor, poor e-maxx...

mkrusedc 10.29.2007 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 125995)
:gasp: OMG, that poor e-maxx.
Tip-throttle control can keep the car flying with the wheels towards the ground :yes:. Poor, poor e-maxx...


:yes: I need a ramp to practice. :lol:

mkrusedc 11.06.2007 04:50 PM

Not done yet
 
I just thought I would update this thread. Some new parts began to arrive today:

FLM extended chassis
FLM shock towers


Later this week:

UE SuperShocks
FLM hybrid bulks
Hot Bodies 1/8 diffs


Still to install:

Strobe slipper
Onfa 51t spur
20t pinion


ESC changes:

Turn on freewheeling

Matbe I'll be done after this...:rofl:

suicideneil 11.06.2007 05:20 PM

I think there was a film named after this build.....

"The neverending story"

:D

neweuser 11.06.2007 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 127494)
I just thought I would update this thread. Some new parts began to arrive today:

FLM extended chassis
FLM shock towers


Later this week:

UE SuperShocks
FLM hybrid bulks
Hot Bodies 1/8 diffs


Still to install:

Strobe slipper
Onfa 51t spur
20t pinion


ESC changes:

Turn on freewheeling

Matbe I'll be done after this...:rofl:

I would think that 20T pinion will run a tad hot with the 1515 1/y. I would go 16T personally.

mkrusedc 11.06.2007 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neweuser (Post 127501)
I would think that 20T pinion will run a tad hot with the 1515 1/y. I would go 16T personally.

Maybe but with a 52t mod1 Associated gear and a 17t pinion I have not been above 130 degrees.

neweuser 11.06.2007 06:50 PM

Odd....what batts are you running? 52 associated on a strobe???

MetalMan 11.06.2007 07:10 PM

I think he means a MGT 52t spur on the stock slipper clutch.

mkrusedc 11.06.2007 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neweuser (Post 127526)
Odd....what batts are you running? 52 associated on a strobe???

I have not installed the Strobe yet. MetalMan is correct the 52t is used with stock slipper plates, Associated slipper balls and a heavy duty spring(sprong?) I wasn't sure if that would hold so I got a Strobe with the 51t and a 20t pinion(the 19t were out of stock).

I use two 2s1p TrakPower LiPo batts.

RCShocker 11.07.2007 11:19 PM

Where did you get your UE shocks, Mark? They were out of stock last time I checked at UE. Your gonna love it even more.

mkrusedc 11.08.2007 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCShocker (Post 127791)
Where did you get your UE shocks, Mark? They were out of stock last time I checked at UE. Your gonna love it even more.

ebay! Had to take a chance. I needed them and UE is out:grrrrrr:

mkrusedc 11.10.2007 01:33 AM

I got my hybrid bulks and HB diffs. I currently have 3.3 shafts. Do you think I should keep the 3.3 shaft or up grade to CVDs?

The HB diff fit perfect in the bulk. It looks like no shimming required. It would be so easy to just shim the pinion, lube and then bolt it together. A cvd upgrade would also end my shock rubbing problem.

On the other hand the 3.3 shafts are inexpensive, light weight and allow for a little give in my drive train. I would have to take the diff apart to put in the 3.3 output shafts and change out my shocks.

So what would you all advise?

GorillaMaxx360 11.10.2007 10:33 AM

if you want 3.3 CVDS that work with your vehicle i suggest you give the MIP 3.3 ones a try. The old mip ones have broken for some but the new ones are much beefier than the old ones. I am running hybrids and mips and the same motor combo as you and for the little bit i ran them they held up fine. I personally would stay with the sliders. they are cheaper, just as strong, gives some give(but with the new diffs it is not totally necessary), and they work right now, How ever if the sliders are rubbing and wearing down i would suggest maybe going the CVDS route. If you can get your hands on some UE ones that is the best option.

Serum 11.10.2007 11:01 AM

If you are looking for a good monster GT spur, i got a white machined one from delrin for about 12 bucks including shipping.

mkrusedc 11.10.2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360 (Post 128295)
if you want 3.3 CVDS that work with your vehicle i suggest you give the MIP 3.3 ones a try. The old mip ones have broken for some but the new ones are much beefier than the old ones. I am running hybrids and mips and the same motor combo as you and for the little bit i ran them they held up fine. I personally would stay with the sliders. they are cheaper, just as strong, gives some give(but with the new diffs it is not totally necessary), and they work right now, How ever if the sliders are rubbing and wearing down i would suggest maybe going the CVDS route. If you can get your hands on some UE ones that is the best option.

Which size UE will fit my 3.3 E-Maxx?

mkrusedc 11.10.2007 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 128307)
If you are looking for a good monster GT spur, i got a white machined one from delrin for about 12 bucks including shipping.


Thanks but with this upgrade I'll be putting the strobe on:party:

squeeforever 11.10.2007 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 128323)
Which size UE will fit my 3.3 E-Maxx?

None...You won't be able to use your 3.3 knuckles with UE cvd's. I would stick with the sliders, get some aluminum knuckles from RD Racing, and get there 8mm axle kit as well...

Serum 11.10.2007 12:04 PM

Strobe is the best (un)available option..

mkrusedc 11.10.2007 07:53 PM

Thanks for the advice guys.

mkrusedc 11.20.2007 10:45 PM

I thought I would update this thread. Here is a vid of the last bash before I upgrade to:

FLM hybrid bulks
FLM extended chassis
Hot Body Lightening 1/8 diffs
Traxxas cvds
4 UE SuperShocks
Strobe slipper
Tony's hardened steel screws
New skid plates


No jumps this time:oops::oh:

It was hard to shoot, steer and throttle all with two hands. Only 2 of those passes are WOT

mkrusedc 12.28.2007 01:38 AM

Still almost done

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Well I finally got some time between all the holidays and family stuff to do some wrenching.

New upgrades installed:
Hot bodies 1/8 diffs
FLM Hybrid bulks
FLM extended chassis
FLM shock towers
4 SuperMaxx shocks
Traxxas CVDs

Upgrades to be installed:
Proline steering servo saver
Strobe slipper
maybe another 4 SuperMaxx shocks

When I was doing the dissassemble I found one of the chassis braces was broken. Who knew? I have also resolved to go buy a good set of hex drivers because those little allen wrenches kill your fingers.:oops:

Hopefully this weekend I can get the servo saver in, put in the receiver, put on the front skid plate, put on the bumpers, attach my batteries and BASH!!!:party:

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL143.../295204000.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL143.../295203998.jpg

turbo4 01.01.2008 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 125825)

When I repaired this I noticed that the lower spring retainer had worn a groove in my 3.3 shaft. You can see it near the lower coils of the white spring in both pics.

I'm having the same problem. I think i will go with CVD's or modify the spring perch. The perch's I have are revo ones which are more narrow, which rubs much less than the ones that came with the prolines. Mine are not grooved nearly as much as yours, but are showing signs of wear.

mkrusedc 01.01.2008 11:21 PM

I was going to try that but the cvds are not long enough. See below. So I will go back to 3.3 shafts and SuperShocks. The SuperShocks are thinner.

Diameter measured at the springs:
SuperShocks 19 mm
PowerStrokes 21.5mm


http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL143.../295570302.jpg
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL143.../295570300.jpg

turbo4 01.02.2008 12:05 AM

What part # are those cvd's? Just asking cause I posted on a different thread about part #'s.

mkrusedc 01.02.2008 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo4 (Post 137848)
What part # are those cvd's? Just asking cause I posted on a different thread about part #'s.

You need the 5451R.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...FVSEARCH=5451R

turbo4 01.02.2008 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkrusedc (Post 137852)

Got it. I guess your not using them because your HB diff outputs are not compatible?

BP-Revo 01.02.2008 12:37 AM

To solve the problem, you can just buy the diff output conversions off Mike (the ones for the Revo 1/8 diffs). This will allow you to use the Traxxas brand outdrive cup, which is long enough to work with the CVD's.

Problem solved.

mkrusedc 01.02.2008 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 137855)
To solve the problem, you can just buy the diff output conversions off Mike (the ones for the Revo 1/8 diffs). This will allow you to use the Traxxas brand outdrive cup, which is long enough to work with the CVD's.

Problem solved.


Didn't know he had those. I do have the stub out drives which I was going to use and put the 3.3s back on.

Which ones hmmm..........

turbo4 01.02.2008 11:35 AM

Have any idea what your top speed is on the 4s? Does 4s leave you wishing for more? Or is it plenty outta control and any more cells would be to undrivable?

On that note, if you were going to try a 5s, how would you want to configure the battery layout in the emaxx chassis?

suicideneil 01.02.2008 01:58 PM

Depends much on the motor you use- the 1515 1y is perfect for 4s, and 5s would be crazy fast + run a bit warmer I imagine. Battery layout would probably look like a 3s pack on one side of the chassis, and a 2s on the other, wired in series.


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