I agree, it would be a lot more work and testing a car software compared to air software. The pricing must be because of more abuse on the car version, and they want to keep a satisfied customer base. I know I am, even though two crapped the bed on me.

i think its just that they know that they have a niche at the moment until mamba max monster comes out.

Anyone remember when the quarks were 100 dollars cheaper at rc mart when they first came out and then quark obviously enforced there msrp policy and rcmart changed there prices.

I think these are 170 dollar controllers that are being sold at 270 dollars because they can people still buy them.

i mean it does not even run 6s lipo as its rated to do.
It also overheats as they used double-sided tape to stick it together i mean come on.

I wonder how hard it would be to read the software off a monster pro rom chip and then flash it to the 125 air master?

$100 cheaper, when did they come out? The firmware reading thing would be near impossible, I would think.

I would have to agree, the Quark really is a niche (not niche market), as it is an impressive controller in it's own way. But so is MM, in another way, and the ComPro as well. But overall, the Quark, among other controllers is the one to have I think. If only they added a USB programming hub...

well no mods runs his is his converted mgt... and he said theres no cogging with 8 cell packs... hes running a neu... in a 13 lb truck......

I saw one of their air controllers on ebay at a great price, so I emailed S&T asking if I could send in an air controller and have it flashed/converted to a car controller.

Their repsonse; "No."
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The chip they use might be a program-once type of IC. Unfortunately, they grind the top of their ICs so you can't read the part number, so it's hard to say. Maybe they simply can't without replacing the chip...

Isn't there a way to replace the chip with some sort of eprom? If that is the right word for it.

Without knowing what the original chip is for pinout and spec compatibility, that would be difficult IMO. It's one thing if someone has all the parts to do it, but it may simply be easier to get the car version after all is said and done.

Precisely.

well, this guy at work owes me favors. He is the ROM developer for the business PC's. If somebody could get me the S&T "rom" chip, there might be a chance of reading the data that's in it.
It would be kinda neath to be able to totally modify the Qaurk like a mamba. Oh, that is what I need to do when I get my mamba esc back....piggy back with another rom...

Brian, since when do we do things the easy way? If we did that, we'd still be running nitro.

snellemin, now that I think about it, it might be some sort of copyright infringement. Unauthorized use of software or something like that.

Now for the drama. I've managed to get my Quark to thermal twice today. All I was doing was running around in my front yard. I've run the MM harder for longer periods of time and never had any trouble. I took temps at the sink and along the aluminum case and got a temp of about 115, but when I temped the motor leads, it shot up to 140. I'm thinking that the FETs are a lot hotter than the case is getting. How can this be? A THIRD Quark and I'm already having problems. I'm really hesitant to open this one up to do the "mod," but I don't think I have a choice.

Maybe I should just sell the Quark and the Neu that I have coming back and get into a Lehner and run that with the MM. I just hate the thought of buying a motor from FD, but I'm getting to the point of putting all of this stuff aside and waiting for the technology to catch up.

AAngel, how hot is it there? That's pathetic, what is going on? Do you want a machined case for your Quark like in my other thread? It will make the Quark into something else, super cool running will be it.

Nitro?..Easy way?

That really sucks about the Quark. I have just been running Mambas... I don't even know what a thermal is! I tried to get a Lehner from FD, but I asked him if it was in stock first, never got an answer back. If he is just going to order it and I have to wait months, well you know the rest (no patience).

zbp, it's starting to get hot down here. In the 90's. I would be interested in a Quark case, although it would tick me off to no end to put it into a nice case and have it blow anyway.

bdebde, I never had any trouble running nitro. I really had the touch when it came to those engines. I had to tune like everyone else, but I usually spent much less time doing it. I only ran two engines and knew them intimately. The O.S. RG and the Novarossi P5X. Both great engines, if you know what to do with them.

I'm telling you, if the Lehners were available, I'd jump on one and stick with the MM. What sucks is that I found myself afraid to squeeze the throttle with the Quark because I'm afraid of hurting it. I never have such worries with my MM controllers.

Yeah, I am alot on the full throttle with my Mambas too, probably what torched the 8XL. lol