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emaxxnitro 10.19.2008 06:24 PM

thats a bad *** motor!

lutach 10.19.2008 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by emaxxnitro (Post 224092)
thats a bad *** motor!

Yes, but 4 and 6 pole motors are taking over and for a good reason.

E-fanatic 10.19.2008 07:31 PM

Are the combos going to come with the black motor like the pic or green like the rest of castles motors. I like the black!

hoovhartid 10.19.2008 08:41 PM

I think the ones made for Traxxas will be black and the Castle ones will be green.

brushlessboy16 10.19.2008 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovhartid (Post 224126)
I think the ones made for Traxxas will be black and the Castle ones will be green.

could be, i personally like the black.. green doesnt go well with very much LOL

molak 10.19.2008 11:07 PM

IŽll really like to see a motor can with heat pipes. Even if they are heavier than a simple heatsink, at least the are pasive devices.

Unsullied_Spy 10.19.2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by molak (Post 224160)
IŽll really like to see a motor can with heat pipes. Even if they are heavier than a simple heatsink, at least the are pasive devices.

You shouldn't need heatpipes, water cooling, or even fans though. If your motor is running too hot there are issues in your setup. It could be gearing, binding, poor quality motor, etc. but a proper setup will not overheat. Before the unfortunate frying of my Neu, the hottest I could get it was 145F which is fine considering how long I ran it, how hard I ran it, and it was too high of KV for my application.

brushlessboy16 10.20.2008 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 224161)
You shouldn't need heatpipes, water cooling, or even fans though. If your motor is running too hot there are issues in your setup. It could be gearing, binding, poor quality motor, etc. but a proper setup will not overheat. Before the unfortunate frying of my Neu, the hottest I could get it was 145F which is fine considering how long I ran it, how hard I ran it, and it was too high of KV for my application.

i got mine to 155 but was geared for 53mph or so.. :intello:

emaxxnitro 10.20.2008 09:17 AM

not if you are running high voltage! 2poles can take high voltage better than 4poles. Now 4 poles are better for 6s and under 2poles are going to have higher rpm

brushlessboy16 10.20.2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by emaxxnitro (Post 224228)
not if you are running high voltage! 2poles can take high voltage better than 4poles. Now 4 poles are better for 6s and under 2poles are going to have higher rpm

rpms causes destruction.. 4 and 6 pole motors make more torque and turn lower rpm. keeping them in below failure point, the added torque allows you to gear to compensate...

He is right multipole motors are better..at high voltage

Pdelcast 10.20.2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovhartid (Post 224126)
I think the ones made for Traxxas will be black and the Castle ones will be green.

Traxxas motors are all black, Castle are black and green.

emaxxnitro 10.20.2008 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 224307)
Traxxas motors are all black, Castle are black and green.

nice! but i already have a 1515 1y so will the ccneu be better or about the same:neutral:

emaxxnitro 10.20.2008 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 224296)
rpms causes destruction.. 4 and 6 pole motors make more torque and turn lower rpm. keeping them in below failure point, the added torque allows you to gear to compensate...

He is right multipole motors are better..at high voltage

not if your motor is rated for it! the c50 comp is a 80000 rpm motor. and the 9xl can take up to 8s (my future bl plans)

Pdelcast 10.20.2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by emaxxnitro (Post 224228)
not if you are running high voltage! 2poles can take high voltage better than 4poles. Now 4 poles are better for 6s and under 2poles are going to have higher rpm

I don't know how you can say this. And I have to disagree with you on this as well.

Usually, pole count is determined by rotor diameter, not by voltage. Voltage doesn't really enter into the equations at all -- you can always change windings to make up for pole count difference (for example, a 2 turn 2 pole is the same torque as a 1 turn 4 pole...)

lutach 10.20.2008 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 224421)
I don't know how you can say this. And I have to disagree with you on this as well.

Usually, pole count is determined by rotor diameter, not by voltage. Voltage doesn't really enter into the equations at all -- you can always change windings to make up for pole count difference (for example, a 2 turn 2 pole is the same torque as a 1 turn 4 pole...)

I also think the 4 pole mentioned by Patrick will still have more torque being it has twice the magnet. Basically a 2 pole would be a 4 cylinder and a 4 pole would be 6 cylinder and 8 pole well would be 8 cylinder. Ever wonder why outrunners have more torque then our popular 4 pole inrunners?


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