Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 284956)

I would really like to see proof of this as I have never seen nor heard of it. It's a rather bold claim without anything to back it up.

Originally Posted by Edumakated (Post 284992)

I The motors are just as efficient, if not moreso than the Neus.

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 285045)

If you're talking about the sealed part, I own a Neu motor with holes in it. I do believe they also came crimped a few years ago but they switched to the screws a while back.

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 284956)

I would really like to see proof of this as I have never seen nor heard of it. It's a rather bold claim without anything to back it up.

Originally Posted by Aceldama (Post 285053)

I'm not making stuff up because I hate Neu or anything. I was just in the position of trying to piece together a reasonably priced 6s system using a MMM which basically meant I was trying to find a deal on a genuine Neu or a Medusa since CC only has the 2200kv motor. I ended up finding some decent deals on some Neus but they were usually crimped end bells, or open to debris, or both.

Non sealed:
http://pj.b5z.net/i/u/2031093/i/1515_20f_ezr2.jpg

This one looks like non-screw captured:
http://file.espritmodel.com/motors/neu/neu_1515df.jpg

The Tekin system is expensive, no question about it. But at least they're offering a true 6s solution with their combos. If you want a properly rated KV motor for 6s with the MMM you either get a Medusa (non sealed, pressed endbell) or buck up for a real Neu which makes it even more expensive than the Tekin combo.

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 285055)

Original Neus are open because they where designed for heli, airplane, and marine applications where dirt isn't present. A couple pieces of aluminum foil tape takes care of this, just as I have done on my Medusas. As for crimped ends, I have no idea where your getting that from because that pic doesn't show the back. The front is part of the can itself and I assure you that the back is not crimped/pressed/glued on, it is a Neu and it is screwed on. I do agree though that it is great that Tekin has multiple motor choices. I would have bought one if they where out a month ago.

Originally Posted by Aceldama (Post 285053)

The Tekin system is expensive, no question about it. But at least they're offering a true 6s solution with their combos. If you want a properly rated KV motor for 6s with the MMM you either get a Medusa (non sealed, pressed endbell) or buck up for a real Neu which makes it even more expensive than the Tekin combo.

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 284956)

I think you took my comment the wrong way. This was not a stab at you and/or other people who use and like the RX8 but more a statement to help out unsullied_spy.



I would really like to see proof of this as I have never seen nor heard of it. It's a rather bold claim without anything to back it up.

Originally Posted by Aceldama (Post 285065)

Oh, I have the utmost confidence in the Neu product and I'd love to own one. And the MMMv3 seems pretty solid as well. The Tekin seemed like a pretty solid and complete product and the initial positive reviews sold me on it. I just feel like comparing the cost of the Tekin combo to the MMM combo is a little unfair if you plan on running 6s. Unless you're cool with running the motor at 55,000 RPM.

And no, I don't own the MMM with the 2200kv motor. It looks really great, and if Castle had the 1800KV ready I would have bought that combo. But I feel that 2200kv is not ideal at 6s. I came to that conclusion from reading the forums and playing with BrianG's gearing calc. Do you run the 2200 at 6s TexasSP?

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 285050)

I still find these claims irrelevant without any numbers to back them up. Neu has been in the BL motor business much longer than tekin with a VERY proven track record across the board from planes, to helis, to boats, to cars.



I was talking about the crimped part. I have followed neu motors for several years via plane guys I know and have never seen one with a crimped can. The sealed part is just plain silly as the motors with the holes in them where not originally built for off road use. However, the Tekno neus and CC neus which are built for off road use are sealed so the point really seems moot.

I get these guys like their tekin systems, I like my tekin I use in my scale crawler. While they are nice ESC's I do not find them "way better" than what CC produces. Another thing about the size factor is that CC attached the capacitors to their ESC's from the factory and that is reflected in their size specs. However tekin requires that you attach the capacitor(s) yourself and thus does not factor that into their size specs. I also much prefer the bullet connectors to the solder posts hands down.

Again I would also like to see how smooth the tekin runs a completely sensorless motor. Or we can wait for the MM Pro and compare then......

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 285130)

I have come to the conclusion though that the 2200 motor on a monster truck is the one to have if running 4-6s. I have enough confidence in the CC software that I can run different setups via programming to utilize the motor correctly for what I need.

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 285130)

I am in no way dogging the Tekin, I just do not agree with it's all of the sudden God status over all else. It seems to me like the attitude coming from some is that the only way to be competitive is to run the Tekin and if you come running the MMM you will just get beat.