Yeah its true...and we can laugh about it...as long as its not our kids! :lol:

i see that there are people here that are talking bout RTR's being good and bad at the same time... I work at a hobby store in Southern California (Hobby People) and can tell you from experience why RTR's are good, but in there current form are bad for the hobby imo

I couldnt agree more... RTR's are a good way to make a quick buck and are very "user" friendly to the first time buyer. BUT in there current form ( IE: being pre built, put together, ready to go ) are bad for the hobby in the long term. In my experience the people who Buy RTR's are the people who dont ever want to work on there own stuff. They want to pay up to 30 dollars an hour to fix cars ( damn i wish my boss let me charge to work on cars ). I think the RC8 is a fair compromise between the two breeds of "hobbyists". It gives you the convinence of having a pre built car. but also makes you work on your own stuff because you have to install all your own gear (motor, servos, battery, reciever... etc)

I think RTR's are good, but i think having a pre - built "kit type" car is better... thats what I'd hope to see from mike if he ever did something like that.

Jus my 2 cents :yipi:

you got it.

when everything is ready to go..just plug n play... its not that good for the person in the long run. like you said once somethings goes down they have NO idea what to do to fix it.

although they are nice for the first first time users. gets them into the hobby with no work needed.