PDC any chance you could check my pm - thanks

A clever person produced this:

http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/_nospark.html

I like the pop :lol:. It scares the crap out of my friends and it gives that "I'm tough effect".

Maybe it's just me but it seems that the "pop" is smaller on the Mamba Monster than the Max. On 6s I was expecting something big but hardly noticed it.

i know an hes still posting:diablo:

an cc let us know the real problem:smile:

Cool, thanks Patrick, I have my 6s batts set up for the resistor already, Just have to wire the Monster up when it gets here.

Heck yes! Makes all the folks around me say WTF was that?! Pop = awesome. :)

I noticed it smaller too on 5s than the 7 runs had on my quark before it went crispy.

6 out of 1000 isn't bad at all.

I'm just saying is how big of a problem it would be if those 6 failed ones made it to the hands of 6 different people outside of North America. Instead of a week of down time those people would have a month of down time because of the shipping times - which are in nobody's control.

I do plan on buying this for my Savage conversion but before I do I want to make sure all the bugs are out of it because of the wait time.

i just take this quote as an example.
i wouldn't be too fast with a judgment. RURC may have a kind of a 'special' way to express himself sometimes and that may easily sound 'arrogant'. however there is no doubt that he has lots of experience and from what i read for years in the rcu forum his informations are mostly not bs but rather correct. maybe he didn't get it exactly right this time. idk but it has been stated here again that lower quality batteries may cause a problem for the esc. so the basic message isn't that wrong. and he is sure not just some trashtalker that knows nothing.

btw of course it was possible to build a brushless 8th scale models many years ago. it just wasn't as popular as nowadays. i do not have that long time experience but when i got my first converted savage in 2003 there wasn't much talking about brushless monsters on any internet platform. and i have no doubt that there were some people out there that already converted some trucks or buggies before 2000. so a guy like RURC may easily have around 10 years of experience.

bye
rhylsadar

Who are 6 failures total out of 1000 pieces?
1.DickyT
2.Hootie7159
3.???
4.???
5.???
6.???

What should they do if they are 6 failures total out of 1000 pieces?
What will CC response with 6 failures,and if they're international orders?

Surely there not all bad as Castle are sending out replacements to the 6 people that have had failures when the receive the call so if Castle was really worried they would't worry about sending a replacement ASAP

They'll make it right, just like they always do.

So, i'm understanding that this is just a bunch of bullspit and i can run my Maxamps with the MMM? The Maxamps is the only battery i have and can't afford the Monster AND a new lipo.

From what I understand you can as long as it's a decent MA pack - one that will put out 15C or better. How new is the pack, and do you know the C rating on it?

The MA pack is about 4-months old. It's a 5s 6000mah rated at 20c.

I am going to say that maxamps 5000 cells min for 4s, and their 8000 packs would be much better. I puffed a 5000 4s pack a revo with a MM. The trakpower lipos are holding up fine though. I would not suggest using the 6000 packs unless it is a 6s pack with a low (1500kv) kv motor, that is geared for 40mph or less.

Whats better a 4s2p 6000 or a 4s 6000 battery?They are both maxamps batteries.

All of maxamps 6000 packs listed on their site are made up of the 3000 cells in a 2p config. I am not aware of any 6000 cells that maxamps has.

Well, they said anything over 15C, so you should be good.

15C in itself means nothing. You have to have an MAh rating to go with that. I'd look for 75A or greater continuous capacity. If you can do that, you should be fine.

My MA 4S2p 6000 pack says max continuous discharge 125 amps.And my Neu 1515/1.5d is rated at 120 amps.Sooo exactly what does this mean?:whistle:

It means you need MORE POWER! No just kidding, the battery can put out a constant 125 amps to the ESC. So if your battery rating is lower than the ESC rating it will not work very well. Ex... a constant 20 amp battery will not work on a MMM very well. Will stress the battery too much and possibly cause fires, explosions, and/or bodily harm.

The motor rating i am not sure of. Maybe the max amps it can pull or take from the ESC?????

to run a 15c battery you need at least 5000mah. That is exactly 75amps cont.
Just use this formula - (c rating * mah) / 1000
If it equals 75 you are good to go!
The higher the number after the formula the better, but not always necessary.

I don't get what the fuss is all about all of a sudden. A small problem with some MMM BECs and suddenly it seems people are questioning everything they know about BL in general. The rules haven't changed with just a new ESC.

Amperage draw is solely dependant on the motor, vehicle you are using it in, and supply voltage.

Overkill I know, but for the sake of example, you could conceivably install the MMM in a Rustler with a light-duty motor, geared conservatively and you wouldn't need a large battery. Current flow is determined by the load and supply voltage, not the ESC. Period. The ESC is simply a "controlled energy funnel". If the MMM is used in such a way, it will obviously never have to work very hard.

OTOH, if used on a large heavy vehicle like a 5th scale, geared high, you will need batteries capable of high energy output, so high voltage AND high capacity AND high C rating.

Gents...the higher the C rating the less resistance in the pack and the cooler the pack will stay under the same amp load. Minimum of 4000mah and 20C is my recommendation. Obviously, the higher the capacity or the C rating, the better off you are.

So whats the C rating on a 4s2p 6000 MA lipo battery?It says 125 continuous
amps on the battery.:whistle:

Exactly! Well said!

i know he knows stuff....ive read older post of his too...

but he kept saying all maxxamp lipos wont work with the MMM..:oops:
and flat out said ployquest(enerland) packs are junk..lol:lol:
he hasnt used them in a year an said they wont work with the MMM...
he said u need 40C lipo or ull fry ur MMM:lol:

he said he has been following the thread...
IF SO HE SHOULD SEE 50% ARE RUNNING MAXXAMPS(20C) IN THERE 1/8th scale Conversions, AND 50% ARE RUNNING POLYQUEST/NEU(ENERLAND cells)25Cor30C...
this is with Mamba Maxs an a few other esc's..



i layed off him but he needs to get cought up, an See that most people killing there MMM, are running the same combo/car/motor/gearing/ an same GOOD LIPOS that can do 75amps cont.(if not more)
An were all running fine(some cant make 20mins or are overheating there esc's).....


btw he told everyone he had a 300Amp ?shulets? esc:lol:
lutach asked for some pics, an RURC is ignoreing him:lol:




YES, if u have batterys that can do 75A ull be fine:yes:

dont run any maxxamps smaller then 4s 5000mah(thats the limit)...
4s 6000/5s 6000(should be fine just dont push them, dont set acc.limit under 20% for safety, id set it at 40%-50%-60% or 70%) u dont need under 20% ull just wheelie anyway)
3s 8000/ 4s 8000, are good(5s 8000 are good but a bit to heavy, only good for long speed runs)....

As for Neu/Tracpacks/ Polyquests/ Enerland cells
4s 4000+/ 5s 4000+ / 6s 4000+ 25C (will work fine)
4s 5000/ 5s 5000 / 6s 5000 25C (will work fine)
4s 6000/ 5s 6000 / 6s 6000 25C (will work fine)

4s 4000+/ 5s 4000+ / 6s 4000+ 30C (will work great)
4s 5000/ 5s 5000 / 6s 5000 30C (will work great)
4s 6000/ 5s 6000 / 6s 6000 30C (will work great)

NEW 35C / 40C / 45C lipos comeing will be the best to use with the MMM
as we car run smaller packs an make 20 min mains.:yipi:
PLUS u will beable to have a 1/8th scale land missael:gasp:

around 21c

(6000 * 21) / 1000 = 126 amps

20C straight from Jason at MA.

if only everyone could understand this. not to be rude but it is not a hard concept. yes takes a little knowledge but anyone can learn this.

Thanks for the example I get the formula now.:party:By the way my MMM has run perfect:whip:I am just a backyard basher but want to learn as much as possible about lipo ratings to protect my investment in my MA batteries.:mdr:

By watching this thread, I am starting to believe Patrick and Joe have the patience of Job!

This whole panic mentality has got me cracking up though, it's the same thing that happened to traxxas over the EVX2. A handful of problems and it becomes a total pandemic!

People, stop, breathe, read, and learn! Your life will be better for it.

Phatmonk, one day I am gonna crack my screen trying to kill that little cockroach, then I will send you the bill. :rules: :na::lol:

With all this MMM talk I took my Losi 8T outside for a little romp in da grass.All I can say is WOW! 20 minutes and the 13.4 cutoff hadnt tripped yet.The motor was the only thing I would consider warm and thats in med high grass with plenty o wheelies.I need wheels on my wings:diablo:You guys at Castle have done real well!!!!Why would you ever need to give it more than 1/2 throttle:whip:

There should be a sticky called, "Never listen the a BS guy by the name of RURC".

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I started coughing on that one!

Make this a sticky now! :rules:

Good one lutach, but I think linc is starting to rub off on you. :diablo:

I wasn't playing. There should be a Sticky telling all of us that we should be on the look out for people with cheap information. I'm pretty sure the guys at rctech feel the same way about me, but hey when I hit them with the real info, I hit them hard. I try to get real info from the people that makes our very valuable R/C goodies. I'm pretty sure lincpimp will come up with something better :lol:.

I just got done blowing the sidewall out of a tire on one of the new Emaxx's...first time I punched the throttle. 6s lipo, one of our prototype motors, stock spur and 24T pinion....EASY gearing on this setup!!!

So some of us just get done waiting to get our Monsters in our hands and you have to go and tell us about the new motors too, huh? :na:

By the time the new motors are available, I just hope to be healed from the beating I'm going to take when my wife finds out I bought 3 Monsters. :oops::whip: