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JThiessen 11.04.2008 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 229117)
I run Futaba FASST 2.4, and it never glitches. I had a few issues with speky, but it wasnt horrible, but the Futaba system is great

I agree the motor wires are to long, but thats great, so we ccan cut them to what ever length we need, and make out wiring nice and neat, with out having to have another set of wires coming from the speedo

I have my DX3 antenna running up right between the motor wires and nary a glitch. Lucky so far I guess.

E-fanatic 11.04.2008 06:06 PM

I thought that you were not suposed to shorten the motor leads. I belive there was a thread about that on here not to long ago explaneing why

BrianG 11.04.2008 06:14 PM

You shouldn't shorten leads on motors like Feigao, Neu, etc because the leads are just extensions of the coil wires, and only the last inch or so has the varnish removed for soldering. It's almost impossible to solder to varnish-coated wires without somehow removing that layer.

Motors like the Mamba max motors are ok because the leads are just regular wires. The connections between the coils and the leads are done inside the motor. The CC Neu motors look like they fall into this category.

brushlessboy16 11.04.2008 06:53 PM

Alright so shortening motor wires will help reduce noise, what about those ferrous rings found on the ends of Gamming controllers like the Ps2's controller- i have one but i dont know if it will help any.
should i braid the Pwm wired (red black white-servo connector)?

E-fanatic 11.04.2008 07:10 PM

The ferrous rings almost doubled my range in my airplanes before I went to the futaba fasst with them. It worked really well ,Took all the funky glitching out.

brushlessboy16 11.04.2008 07:20 PM

Good to hear, ill try it out once my v3 gets here

What do i Run through it? the esc-to-rx wire or the antenna?

bl-is-future 11.04.2008 07:28 PM

yeah wrap the lead that goes to your rx form the esc around the ring.

brushlessboy16 11.04.2008 09:36 PM

Im using one out of a Ps2 Controller, its more cylindrical.. i will see what i can do

brushlessboy16 11.06.2008 01:18 PM

so is it a bad thing if the leads are stubby?

bl-is-future 11.06.2008 01:50 PM

if it is the cylinder type just put the wire inside. what do you mean stubby?

brushlessboy16 11.06.2008 01:52 PM

Motor wires, they are 7 1/2'' long right now. i want to shorten them to like 2".

sorry about that vague post

Sammus 11.06.2008 05:51 PM

I used some of those rings when I getting bad glitching on my crt.5 (4s a123, feigao 9l, mamba max, futaba 2.4ghz). I could even notice it with just the power system sitting on my bench. Ferrite rings made things worse for some reason, heeeaaaps worse. electronics positioning was not the problem (I even isolated the high power stuff completely on my bench when i was testing).

Still never figured out the problem *shrugs* I thought it was the MM and sent it back and they said there was nothing wrong with it. Not the case, I just don't run it anymore. Pity, really. Just waiting till i cbf posting it up here for sale heh.

brushlessboy16 11.06.2008 06:18 PM

seems eerily similar, but i dont know if its the motor/esc or the receiver.

BlackedOutREVO 11.06.2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-fanatic (Post 229131)
Do you really have to ask that :whistle:


BlackedOutREVO, That futaba fasst system is second to none. I couldnt be happier with mine. I will never buy a spektrum again!

I just with castle would hurry up with there system so I can run my truck!!

Hahahahahhaaha:lol:

And yea for sure! I couldnt be happier, maybe a smaller RX, but thats fine

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 229216)
I have my DX3 antenna running up right between the motor wires and nary a glitch. Lucky so far I guess.

Im not trying to put down spek, Its still year ahead of crystals IMO, I just prefer the FASST system, and especially my 3PK Super:mdr:

brushlessboy16 11.06.2008 07:08 PM

I have a spektrum receiver sitting here but no money for a module Lol... soo close but yet soo far

BrianG 11.06.2008 07:10 PM

Well, I know someone who wouldn't mind an extra Spek receiver! Gotta use the remaining 24 model memory slots on my DX3r for something... :whistle:

Sammus 11.06.2008 07:12 PM

My problem seemed like the batteries voltage was dropping so far it reset the rx (i could see the rx light go off and watch it reset), but i tried all kinds of high powered lipos and stuff too, the a123 were just the standard setup, and it happened with the motor not connected to anything as well - not even a pinion on it, I'm pretty sure A123 cells are up to spinning an unloaded motor without dropping below 1V/cell lol... I can't figure out what it is, and havent to this day. I've used the exact same setup in other cars without problem, it is really really baffling. Like I know there is something I'm not thinking of, and its really frustrating lol.. oh well.

BrianG 11.06.2008 07:14 PM

A few questions:
- Were you using a BEC or Rx pack?
- Were the rx pins dirty? Or, they may have a cold solder joint and making/breaking contact.
- Is the antenna sound? I had a Spektrum antenna that was flaky and had odd stuff happen until I replaced it. Was a PITA to solder though because of some coating on the PCB.

brushlessboy16 11.06.2008 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 230037)
Well, I know someone who wouldn't mind an extra Spek receiver! Gotta use the remaining 24 model memory slots on my DX3r for something... :whistle:

I might know someone who could use cash or something for trade- just shoot me a pm

Sammus 11.06.2008 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 230042)
A few questions:
- Were you using a BEC or Rx pack?
- Were the rx pins dirty? Or, they may have a cold solder joint and making/breaking contact.
- Is the antenna sound? I had a Spektrum antenna that was flaky and had odd stuff happen until I replaced it. Was a PITA to solder though because of some coating on the PCB.

I tried an external and the internal BEC, and 4 different receivers. I don't own an Rx pack but I'm thinking I'll build something and try it soon. I'd hate to have to run an Rx pack though, and I still can't believe 4s1p drop that much with zero load... it actually seemed to glitch more when I was testing it unloaded, but it could just be my frustration imagining things lol... meh more testing when I have time.. I'll probably make some thread about it if I ever succesfully figure it out haha

SpEEdyBL 11.06.2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 229916)
Motor wires, they are 7 1/2'' long right now. i want to shorten them to like 2".

sorry about that vague post

2"? Is your esc touching the motor or something? I bet you will have trouble mounting the esc flat. Have fun holding the motor in place while changing the gearing.

Generally, shorter is always better, though it's not really practical to shorten 10ga wires that much, unless you have space issues in your vehicle otherwise. The worst things that could happen if your wires are to short is if you decide to put the motor system in a different vehicle and suddenly the wires don't reach to the esc. You'll have to solder on an extension. This is why I prefer motors with solder tabs, in which case you don't need to worry about over-shortening the wires. In fact, I just decide to rotate the MMM 90 degrees in my 8ight and even though the MMM bullets only moved an inch away further to the motor, the wires had to be about 2" longer just because of the angle required to bend the wires.

brushlessboy16 11.06.2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL (Post 230054)
2"? Is your esc touching the motor or something? I bet you will have trouble mounting the esc flat. Have fun holding the motor in place while changing the gearing.

Generally, shorter is always better, though it's not really practical to shorten 10ga wires that much, unless you have space issues in your vehicle otherwise. The worst things that could happen if your wires are to short is if you decide to put the motor system in a different vehicle and suddenly the wires don't reach to the esc. You'll have to solder on an extension. This is why I prefer motors with solder tabs, in which case you don't need to worry about over-shortening the wires. In fact, I just decide to rotate the MMM 90 degrees in my 8ight and even though the MMM bullets only moved an inch away further to the motor, the wires had to be about 2" longer just because of the angle required to bend the wires.

No the esc doesnt touch the motor, and no its not a problem mounting the esc FLAT on the chassis behind the motor. its easy enough to solder extensions on if need be- with me being broke, i dont see another car in the near future anyway.

brushlessboy16 11.15.2008 01:16 AM

Well my V3 should be here by monday. but i Think I eliminated the glitching problem
Spektrum Rx- I got from a trade for a charger, and some miscelaneous stuff
Module- I payed 60 Bucks for. So now im in the 2.4ghz club and I like it soo far.


And I just got done shortening the motor leads down to 4 inches. Esc will be mounted behind the motor on the chassis.

brushlessboy16 12.09.2008 04:39 PM

Hey guys a bit of an update

Just ran the truck for 20 minutes, all wot, jumping speed runs etc.

at the end of the pack the motor was 110* esc was 120* and zippy batt was at 115*
This was geared for 43mph on 4s lipo :)

SteGra 12.09.2008 04:48 PM

What is your gearing?

How does the Neu-Castle compare to the same Neu motor (performace-wise)?

Sorry for the questions, if they've already been answered in earlier posts but I am getting dizzy going through the previous ten pages of posts.

brushlessboy16 12.09.2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteGra (Post 240380)
What is your gearing?

How does the Neu-Castle compare to the same Neu motor (performace-wise)?

Sorry for the questions, if they've already been answered in earlier posts but I am getting dizzy going through the previous ten pages of posts.

Gearing is 16/66
for 43mph

I have never run the real neu, so I couldnt tell you:smile:

E-fanatic 12.09.2008 05:23 PM

I am having some heat issues with mine. Geared for 38 in an e-revo I am seeing 170+ on the motor. It has lots of power though!

brushlessboy16 12.09.2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-fanatic (Post 240388)
I am having some heat issues with mine. Geared for 38 in an e-revo I am seeing 170+ on the motor. It has lots of power though!

what are your settings on the MMM, what motor do you run

brushlessboy16 01.08.2009 09:03 AM

Update:

All slotted rotor-motors(say that 5 times fast) Will be hard to turn by hand.

The maximum Shaft play is approximately 1-2mm

SpEEdyBL 01.09.2009 02:28 AM

To clarify, the rotors are not slotted, the stators are...

brushlessboy16 01.09.2009 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 250026)
Update:

All slotted Stator-motors(say that 5 times fast) Will be hard to turn by hand.

The maximum Shaft play is approximately 1-2mm



Thanks speedy :)

brushlessboy16 02.07.2009 12:55 PM

2200kv vs 2650kv


Rotors:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...PICT0001-2.jpg

Cans:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...PICT0006-3.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...PICT0005-3.jpg

E-fanatic 02.07.2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Quote:
Originally Posted by coolrunnings
Someone made a voodoo doll of the mmm and there sticking pins in it....we just need to find the bastard!
Well, it looks like someone found him

So hows the the 2650 run compared to the 2200?

brushlessboy16 02.07.2009 10:17 PM

The both run great. the 2200 is in my Matrix truggy on 4s, and the 2650 is in Eovnu87435ds's hyper 7 on 4s.. pretty sure neither has seen over 140 degrees

SpEEdyBL 02.07.2009 10:22 PM

What is the weight difference between the 2200 and 2650?


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