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snellemin 02.15.2010 07:19 PM

hey hey hey....what kinda rumor does "fixed" mean?!

Pdelcast 02.15.2010 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 350050)
fixed:whistle:

HEY! You can't just edit my posts and make the sun shine you know... :lol:

rchippie 02.17.2010 12:41 PM

Hi Patrick

I just bought a pro boat 1/8 hydro hull. http://cgi.ebay.com/1-8-scale-Miss-E...item335a10885a . That i plan on converting to electric. I understand your coming out with the ice HV controller . Are you coming out with a boat version of this controller ?. I was looking at the hydra 180 for this conversion because it can handle up to 180 amp's & 12s. which is good because i only plan on running 10s. But the price is making me a little hesitent. I would rather buy american & not go the chinese rout . If you are making a boat version of the ice HV . Will it be more in line price wise with the hydra line of controllers our more towards the chinese controllers ?. Thank's :smile:

Bondonutz 02.17.2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 350319)
the price is making me a little hesitent.

From what I've heard that you spend on Male prostitutes this ESC's expense should be drop in the bucket ?

BTW, NICE HYDRO !!

jzemaxx 02.19.2010 01:58 PM

Another crappy week without a HV MMM :cry: :diablo: . Guess I will carve my own out of butter.....wonder how many amps it will support. If not at least it will taste good on some bread :rofl:

lutach 02.19.2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jzemaxx (Post 350763)
Another crappy week without a HV MMM :cry: :diablo: . Guess I will carve my own out of butter.....wonder how many amps it will support. If not at least it will taste good on some bread :rofl:

:lol: I wish the weather was better here. I would be at the park now driving my 8S beast :lol:, before getting my daughter from school.

nitrostarter 02.19.2010 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 350319)
Hi Patrick

I just bought a pro boat 1/8 hydro hull. http://cgi.ebay.com/1-8-scale-Miss-E...item335a10885a . That i plan on converting to electric. I understand your coming out with the ice HV controller . Are you coming out with a boat version of this controller ?. I was looking at the hydra 180 for this conversion because it can handle up to 180 amp's & 12s. which is good because i only plan on running 10s. But the price is making me a little hesitent. I would rather buy american & not go the chinese rout . If you are making a boat version of the ice HV . Will it be more in line price wise with the hydra line of controllers our more towards the chinese controllers ?. Thank's :smile:

Castle is releasing the ICE HV. Patrick did state that they just approve the Hydra version after the cooling plates were approve good to go. This should be the new supreme boating controller. HV, high amp capacity, data logging, and other features. The price will hopefully be around the same, thus making it a better bang for the buck versus the Hydra HV controllers.

jzemaxx 02.23.2010 01:30 PM

:whistle:

Nick 02.23.2010 03:37 PM

What other highvoltage car ESCs are out there?

snellemin 02.23.2010 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 351631)
What other highvoltage car ESCs are out there?

MGM compro, Schulze and Luciano's.

Pdelcast 02.23.2010 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick (Post 351631)
What other highvoltage car ESCs are out there?

:slap:

thzero 02.23.2010 04:24 PM

RTOFL! :diablo:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 351634)
:slap:


lutach 02.23.2010 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 351633)
MGM compro, Schulze and Luciano's.

I only had those made to show the benefits of HV. So I'm taking myself out of this one as I'm also waiting for Castle's HV car controller. When I'm ready to get my own designed car controllers made, then I'll pay Patrick a visit to see if we can work something out.

snellemin 02.23.2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 351636)
I only had those made to show the benefits of HV. So I'm taking myself out of this one as I'm also waiting for Castle's HV car controller. When I'm ready to get my own designed car controllers made, then I'll pay Patrick a visit to see if we can work something out.

I'll stick mine in a glass box then. It's a collectible item now.

jzemaxx 02.23.2010 05:09 PM

Well the season started this past weekend.....so I'm like a crack addict looking for a new drug...lol.

I did TQ and win in Truggy and won 1/8th Buggy. MMM on 4S, but I'm still leaving more time on the table. Patrick has the magic key!!!

Finnster 02.23.2010 08:28 PM

Safe for HV ICE?
 
Can ICE do Ice?

http://parishes.lincolnshire.gov.uk/...n_the_snow.jpg
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http://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant...cd890_450.jpeg
?

whitrzac 02.23.2010 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 351634)
:slap:




get to work!!! we want our HV car escs!!!:whip:

Pdelcast 02.24.2010 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 351636)
I only had those made to show the benefits of HV. So I'm taking myself out of this one as I'm also waiting for Castle's HV car controller. When I'm ready to get my own designed car controllers made, then I'll pay Patrick a visit to see if we can work something out.

You are welcome to visit anytime. :yes:

Pdelcast 02.24.2010 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 351718)
get to work!!! we want our HV car escs!!!:whip:

We are getting closer -- extrusions were approved yesterday, and placed on order.




:party::party::party:



Please note the HV car controller will be OPTO coupled -- no BEC.

snellemin 02.24.2010 10:40 AM

That's good news.

Electric Eel 02.24.2010 12:46 PM

So, a software upgrade only is not possible. Too bad, I have an HV160 that could have been used. Anyway, looking forward to trying one of the new ESC's on a 12S Baja.

BrianG 02.24.2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 351759)
...Please note the HV car controller will be OPTO coupled -- no BEC.

When are you going to make a HV BEC? Would be a shame to have Castle motor and ESC, but have to use another BEC. :wink:

Guess I'll be dusting off my Western Robotics HV BEC (60v and 3.5A)...

Pdelcast 02.24.2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 351782)
When are you going to make a HV BEC? Would be a shame to have Castle motor and ESC, but have to use another BEC. :wink:

Guess I'll be dusting off my Western Robotics HV BEC (60v and 3.5A)...

*cough* CCBEC PRO *cough*

BrianG 02.24.2010 02:26 PM

But I thought the CC BEC Pro was only rated for 6s when used in cars according to the manual? I guess I'm assuming the HV ESCs will have electric braking and the spikes they produce. If they don't and mech brakes are used, the voltage limit of the CC BEC is irrelevant.

Speaking of brake spikes; any idea when/if a capacitor/TVS module will be available for sale? I know this was mentioned once before, but haven't heard anything since.

Thomas Porfert 02.24.2010 04:35 PM

You can just tap the BEC Pro off one of the 6s packs..unless you plan on running a 12s cinder block sized battery. The BEC can tap off just one of the battery leads and will only receive 22.2 volts. We have a wiring diagram on the BEC page that covers this.

http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbec.html#

It's under CC BEC Resources; CC BEC Multi-pack Installation


It says it's for the regular BEC only, but it will work just fine with the BEC Pro.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

Pdelcast 02.24.2010 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 351798)
But I thought the CC BEC Pro was only rated for 6s when used in cars according to the manual? I guess I'm assuming the HV ESCs will have electric braking and the spikes they produce. If they don't and mech brakes are used, the voltage limit of the CC BEC is irrelevant.

Speaking of brake spikes; any idea when/if a capacitor/TVS module will be available for sale? I know this was mentioned once before, but haven't heard anything since.

True-- but any other BEC will still have the same issues with braking. We just are careful to be conservative with our ratings -- not everyone else is.

On the Cap/TVS module -- I just got samples recently -- but haven't built up the module yet. I'll keep you posted when testing starts.

Thanx!

Patrick

BrianG 02.24.2010 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 351815)
You can just tap the BEC Pro off one of the 6s packs..unless you plan on running a 12s cinder block sized battery. The BEC can tap off just one of the battery leads and will only receive 22.2 volts. We have a wiring diagram on the BEC page that covers this.

http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbec.html#

It's under CC BEC Resources; CC BEC Multi-pack Installation


It says it's for the regular BEC only, but it will work just fine with the BEC Pro.

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

The only issue with that arrangement is the pack with the BEC will be drained slightly more than the other pack. It won't be a lot to be sure, but if the packs are charged/balanced in series, it can take longer to balance that difference out. Not to mention the LVC is not as accurate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 351816)
True-- but any other BEC will still have the same issues with braking. We just are careful to be conservative with our ratings -- not everyone else is.

On the Cap/TVS module -- I just got samples recently -- but haven't built up the module yet. I'll keep you posted when testing starts.

Thanx!

Patrick

Yeah, that's true. I had not heard, but I was assuming the lower voltage when used in cars was in fact due to the braking spike.

I presume that adding a few TVS devices would make the CCBEC Pro rated higher when using elec braking in cars?

As far the modules themselves go, I was assuming you would just use whatever TVS you use on the MMM and the caps you use on the MMPro. Of course, higher rated versions would need to be used on the HV ESCs...

lutach 02.24.2010 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 351758)
You are welcome to visit anytime. :yes:

Thank you. I hope my design can be built even if it cost more to get done by you. I'll probably just has you do a few thousand units of various sizes and keep them all for myself to see how long it'll take everyone else to come up with the same design :lol:. I'll see how this summer will be and if I can take some time off. It's usually the time where I work the most to establish more contracts.

jocktheglide 02.25.2010 09:38 AM

so castle I could buy the phoenix ice 200 and put that in my car with 8s? all for 350 bucks?

Electric Eel 03.03.2010 03:49 PM

How about some pictures of the new extrusions. Any release updates?

jzemaxx 03.11.2010 02:16 PM

:whip: Lets get a move on guys..... Still no controllers :whistle:

SunnyHouTX 03.11.2010 03:20 PM

LOL, I hope you never become my boss. Dang J :lol:

jzemaxx 03.12.2010 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SunnyHouTX (Post 354398)
LOL, I hope you never become my boss. Dang J :lol:

Well I own two companies now....lol. :whip:

nl12 03.12.2010 05:13 PM

I would rather have it right than right now.

Thomas Porfert 03.12.2010 06:35 PM

I was curious if anyone actually has all of the equipment needed to convert a Baja or equivalent 1/5th. IE Motor good for 8s and pushing the weight, a motor mount, pinion gear, and big ol' batteries? And if so what you were using for motors and a mount.

Just wondering if we had a controller how many people would actually be ready for a controller today.

Thanks for the feedback fellas!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

snellemin 03.12.2010 07:07 PM

WOW. 1/5 ESC codename "These Nuts".

billy gunn 03.12.2010 07:09 PM

I would. Have a Baja 5t running a NEU2230 using my custom motor mount. It has been run at 8s and 10s already. I have several gear ratios that I can use. Would be a case of me wiring in the speedo and charging up some batteries.

Electric Eel 03.12.2010 07:32 PM

Ready now. I have a 2220 on 12S. Using an Ice HV160 with a Pistix. I have a godawful homemade mount that is an embarrassing combo of Fine Design clamps and my own hack machining.
I have heard rumors that Castle is working on their own Baja kit. No comment, right Tom.

rotary rocket 03.12.2010 07:39 PM

Make me the 3rd person. I have three 1/5 scale cars that I would use.

#1- 1/5 electric on-road- I would just drop in your ESC.

#2- Custom made 1/5 scale Rally- I would need to buy a motor.

#3- MCD 1/5 Dessert Truck- I would need to buy a motor and machine a mount.

Have 4 sets of 4S Thunderpower batts.

Have UBECs that can handle up to 24 cells.

Bondonutz 03.12.2010 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 354638)
I was curious if anyone actually has all of the equipment needed to convert a Baja or equivalent 1/5th. IE Motor good for 8s and pushing the weight, a motor mount, pinion gear, and big ol' batteries? And if so what you were using for motors and a mount.

Just wondering if we had a controller how many people would actually be ready for a controller today.

Thanks for the feedback fellas!

Thomas Porfert
Castle Tech Support

I'm don't have a RC ready yet but I have plans to build somthing 1/5 scale soon.
However, I'm more than willing and ready to buy a controller whenever one becomes availible. So count me for one !


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