Thanks for setting me strait on that one, my mentality was the bigger the better :)

Im going to shoot you a pm patrick.

Well, Arct1k and Pdelcast both just put in writing that this setup will handle bashing. I AM SOLD

esc brakes will make my conversion cheaper and simpler. You guys will see my e5b soon.

Until then look back at my $4000 gas 5b http://rc-monster.com/forum/showthre...ight=5b+thread

I've got cash in hand. Where do I buy a 5b kit? Also an extra omgwtfbbq esc?

I need 2 esc's a motor and a conversion kit. NOW! How? Where?

Thanks:intello:

Haha, I'm right there with you Harold. Once these are released I'm going to be having at least 2 sets coming to my door. Really can't wait. :party:

Waiting as well... even bought a pair of 4s lipo's (ran in paralell now on a MMM, will go series when the XL finally shows).

I would use the esc brakes for the rear, and a set of mech brakes for the front. Use a radio like the m11 that has a dedicated throttle slave channel to mix the front brakes and you are good to go. Front wheels do 60+% of the braking anyways, and I always disliked the stability issues that rear only brakes cause during hard stops.

Good to hear the omgwtfbbq esc can handle 8s with braking, but I would have really like a 10s esc with brakes. I will hold out for the 12s model I think, as my selection of lower kv motors will suit it better.

You might be waiting for long time on that 12s esc.
Last time I called CC (last month) they said the 12 esc was on the back burner.
But they are trying to develope a 20s (yes 20s) esc for the airplane guys.
So we need to get people to boycott all airplane esc's from CC so that they will work on "car" market more. haha

btw who needs front brakes?
You cant win if you are on the brakes.
I will tell you this a 30lb 5T doesn't like to stop at all when using the stock rear brakes when moving 60 mph.

doo540, I like the idea of 12S but I'm waiting on 8S with data logging and a real BEC circuit :-)

Without the price up for the combo yet it comes up as free in the cart, I wish :)

I have a real BEC its CC BEC PRO. Very nice unit and you can adjust the voltage output.
My Ice also has built in datalogger.........
Just missing reverse and electric brakes and car software, BUT I can run 12s and you cant. hahahaha

How soon before Mike has the XL for sale on here?

I'm extremely upset that there is another delay with the release of the ESC. It looks like the distributors might not get anything in until close to the middle of January. We have decided to order some off brand ESC/Motor combos from Kershaw Designs because of this.

Boo hoo. You know how long we waited for the damn mmm? So what it was worth it and so will the xl. It's not like you are the only one waiting, only difference is the others are smart enough to not waste time and money on off brand crap and wait patiently for the good stuff.

Be wary, his motor/esc combos are most likely just rebranded Chinese stuff that you can get for 1/2 the price elsewhere.

Also, I've learned to never trust release dates, they are almost always delayed. I'd rather have a good product off the bat and have to wait than a defective or sub par product right now. :yes:


Btw.. where did you get the information about mid January?

I agree with Cody.
I would rather wait and get a good product then have it released and have allot of issues.
I am sure it will be worth it in the end :D

I'm not really concerned about having any issues with the XL. Reason being is that it seems much of the hardware is based on the ICE line, and the software can be updated at will.

I think that Castle has done a great job learning from the growing pains of the MMM and their customer service is beyond question the absolute best. No reason for me to wait for a V2 to be confident in the outcome.

They are available for ordering right now. The website just hasn't been updated yet.

yowzers!

I want to know where you heard that the distributors won't get anything until January. That's completely false.

Does that include the motor, conversion kit? I'm still crossing my fingers I can do something before Christmas.

Great news... Does that include the motor, conversion kit? I'm still crossing my fingers I can do something before Christmas...

I'm pretty sure it's just the ESC? Since there's no mention of the motor on the checkout page at all. $350 would be much to cheap for the combo anyhows. :yes:

Well, mines ordered! :D Going to order another when the motor comes out, I can't really drop the cash on two 2230s right now, haha.

I saw somewhere the combo was priced around 650 or so. The motor is massive and the magnets are quite heavy. Should be a hell of a combo when its all done.

Congrats on another ground breaking product patrick!

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/5b6b118d.jpg

Whoops

Nice chris :lol:

ESC and motor are available now. Motor isn't on the website yet. Conversion kits available in the first week of Jan.

Excellent.. Should I just pickup ESC/motor now or do you suggest I wait for full package or buy conversation kit separately when it hits or use the RCM kit to get the ball rolling now? I assume a phone order is required until it hits the web site?

Looks like I'm going to be making a call into Castle tomorrow morning to get me one of them motors. :yipi:

Hi, maybe a stupid question, but any differences (performance, efficiency,...) with respect a Mamba Monster if I use the Mamba XL with a 1717 on 6S ?

I would like to switch to XL to have integrated Data Logging and to be able to eventually go beyond 6s limits of th MMM and I wonder whether the switch is worth the value

Bye, Andrea

Patrick,

Update site Monday morning with a price for the combo and it sounds like you'll have a few more orders :), also makes it easier for those of us wanting to use Paypal and such....

i saw the xl is using 8 gauge wire coming off the esc. does that mean the motor and batteries also should have 8 gauge wire as well?

I would. Castle has done their homework so if they fit a wire of a certain size to their ESC I would stick to it. Still I dare say that 10awg wire on the batts could hold up but why have a bottleneck in your setup. Make sure everything is equal all around and you will have an optimal setup.

dam...that kinda sucks...that means i have to get all my packs rewired.
thanks for the info.

I don't make any purchases with GP or HH but my distributors were still spinning their wheels on availability. I called another shop owner in the next town and what I posted is what he told me. He'd never been wrong before but, there's a first time for just about everything. What are the specs on the motor going to be? If they were already posted I missed them somewhere. I apologize for any confusion my post may have caused.

RRHobbydepot, sorry your having problems with your distributors. :whip:
One of the great things about Castle is that they make themselves available to us, I just started a thread here this last week about the availability of the XL and within 10 hours I had a responce from Patrick clearing it up.
I then waited to hear from Mike (of RCM) as to when he would be getting the XL's, and with all the info I got, decided to place my order directly with Castle Saturday (don't worry Mike will be getting my business with some mounts later this week).
With any luck Im hoping to see the XL by Thursday :party:

:cry::cry: looks like my hopes of pre X-mas XL are dashed, just got my confermation e-mail from Castle that my order won't ship until "after the holiday season". Seems early January is a good estimate after all.

If the wires on your packs are 12awg I would be worried. If they are 10awg then you might be right. It all depends on how much you are going to load your motor up. If your setup draws a fair bit less current than what the MMMXL is specified to handle then you should be OK. If you are going to push it to it's limit or even close I would go for 8awg wires all round. If Castle can see merit in using 8awg wires on this ESC then I would say that the batts should have the same.

I've been through this same thing with many products from many companies over the years. Look at how the computer market has Vaporware and all the delays there, just one example. It is always very frustrating.