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A RC Dude 01.20.2008 05:43 PM

WOW! looks real nice! it makes me want a savvy now! lol no money tho.

Serum 01.20.2008 05:51 PM

I'm still debating what shocks to use. I've got a drawing for a buggy shocktower,

but the innovative RC LST shocks look like business too. On the other hand, too heavy perhaps.. the new ofna 16mm bigbores.. or the good old ofna/UE shocks.. Proline powerstrokes perhaps.. but they are impossible to get replacement parts for.. even proline stopped carrying them..

lincpimp 01.20.2008 05:56 PM

What vehicle are the ofna/ue shocks from? I always wondered, cause they must be similar length to a stock maxx shock. Are they a front shock from an 1/8 ofna buggy?

jhautz 01.20.2008 05:58 PM

Serum,

I am planning to use the Aftershock shocks instead of the LST2 shocks. They are the same size and design as the LST2 shocks, but they are made of plastic and ALOT lighter than the LST2 version. Many of the guys who race the LST2s use them to cut weight on the race rigs and they don't seem to have any durability problems. You can pick up parts and new shock sets from Ebay for a much more reasonable price than the InnovativeRC shocks.

I also have a set of the Ofna/UE shocks sitting here that may get a test run on this truck as well.

jhautz 01.20.2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 142550)
What vehicle are the ofna/ue shocks from? I always wondered, cause they must be similar length to a stock maxx shock. Are they a front shock from an 1/8 ofna buggy?


The Ofna LX buggy shocks are the same ones that UE uses on their setup if I'm not mistaken.

generalg 01.21.2008 01:45 AM

wow very nice pictures of this conversion kit.

Guess I will have to place my order tomorrow for this kit. :D

Before I do... will the LST shocks work with the stock lower arms or are the FLM arms a must to run the LST shocks?

Was going to get the FLM shock towers and LST shock stand offs... but not sure on the lower mounting the the Savage a-arm. The savage is an older SS kit.

Fast Lane 01.21.2008 12:45 PM

The LST shock kit will work with the stock arms. I have updated the kit to include a spacer to take the area were the stock shock used to be. Or you could simply use the stock metal shock end.

jhautz 01.21.2008 01:40 PM

Hey Jamie thanks for the update. How can I get my hands on just the update parts? I already have the rest of the kit here.

Serum 01.21.2008 01:46 PM

My guess is through mike; you can see a picture of the Jamies new stuff on his site; it's recently updated.

jhautz 01.21.2008 01:48 PM

Ahh yes.... I see now. Thanks Serum. Those look simple enough that I can probably make my own.

How long are those spacers Jamie?

BashOn 01.21.2008 01:49 PM

Well its official. I'm starting my Savage project. Placed an order today for the extended kit, a neu 1521, MGM 22418, 6s Lipo and a bunch of other parts. I am so tired of Nitro!!!! I have an LST 2 which is a blast except almost every time when I have some sort of issue. I live in houston and the weather makes tuning nitro an every time issue, then there are the batteries! Did I remember to charge the glow plug starter, tx pack, rx pack, spin start....... All I want to do is run it at whenever I am ready. I loved the truck but everything seemed to be a PITA all the time. My brushless vendetta on the other hand just needs a quick charge and its ready every time. I also have an E-Savage and was working on building her up, but as some of you know the e-sav drivetrain just isn't up to snuff for brushless, at least not the kind of brushless I'd like to run. After I saw this nitro conversion I was sold.

I'm looking forward to the build, always seems to be half the fun for me (I was a die hard lego kid.) I'll keep everyone posted on how it goes....

Shon

Fast Lane 01.21.2008 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 142718)
Ahh yes.... I see now. Thanks Serum. Those look simple enough that I can probably make my own.

How long are those spacers Jamie?

You can actually use the stock metal piece on the end of the shock end.
The spacer is .31 od .125 id and .235 thick.

jhautz 01.21.2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BashOn (Post 142719)
Well its official. I'm starting my Savage project. Placed an order today for the extended kit, a neu 1521, MGM 22418, 6s Lipo and a bunch of other parts. I am so tired of Nitro!!!! I have an LST 2 which is a blast except almost every time when I have some sort of issue. I live in houston and the weather makes tuning nitro an every time issue, then there are the batteries! Did I remember to charge the glow plug starter, tx pack, rx pack, spin start....... All I want to do is run it at whenever I am ready. I loved the truck but everything seemed to be a PITA all the time. My brushless vendetta on the other hand just needs a quick charge and its ready every time. I also have an E-Savage and was working on building her up, but as some of you know the e-sav drivetrain just isn't up to snuff for brushless, at least not the kind of brushless I'd like to run. After I saw this nitro conversion I was sold.

I'm looking forward to the build, always seems to be half the fun for me (I was a die hard lego kid.) I'll keep everyone posted on how it goes....

Shon

Sweet make sure you start a thread on it and post your progress. Looking forward to seeing it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fast Lane (Post 142737)
You can actually use the stock metal piece on the end of the shock end.
The spacer is .31 od .125 id and .235 thick.

Thanks Jamie, I can make something to get that to work for sure. I have some .31x.125x.250 spacers just like that in the hardware box. I just need to grind .015 off of the length and Ill be good to go.

Serum 01.21.2008 02:18 PM

Metric guys.. think Metric.. :)

jhautz 01.21.2008 02:22 PM

I can think/work either way. I have been conditioned by my job. It depends on what plant and what suppier I am working with. I get specs in both and work back and forth all the time. It doesnt even phase me anymore.

generalg 01.21.2008 03:59 PM

dang... I just went to purchase this conversion kit for my savage from RC-Monster, add it to the cart than I went to add the LST shock conversion to the cart and guess what... urrrr they are OOS of the LST shock conversion mounts. FIgures.. Was hoping to get them all in one order. Guess I will wait.

jhautz 01.21.2008 04:18 PM

At least when you get it they will be the updated version with the spacers for the stock arms.

generalg 01.21.2008 11:39 PM

well I couldn't wait any longer. I ordered the FLM Savage BL conversion kit today. Whooohooo! Also ordered a 1800 and 2600 Great Plains Ammo motors since they were only $34 each. The 2600 is backordered but for the price they were hard to pass up. Got the MM already, just need to figure out which battery pack, 3S or 4S to go with. mmmm can't wait to get this FLM kit in my hands!

Anyone want to buy some cheap nitro savage parts now? :lol:

MTBikerTim 01.22.2008 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by generalg (Post 142905)
well I couldn't wait any longer. I ordered the FLM Savage BL conversion kit today. Whooohooo! Also ordered a 1800 and 2600 Great Plains Ammo motors since they were only $34 each. The 2600 is backordered but for the price they were hard to pass up. Got the MM already, just need to figure out which battery pack, 3S or 4S to go with. mmmm can't wait to get this FLM kit in my hands!

Anyone want to buy some cheap nitro savage parts now? :lol:

Are those motors going to be enough to push the savage?

generalg 01.22.2008 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 142920)
Are those motors going to be enough to push the savage?


I hope so.... they are good enough for E-Savage owners from what I have read.

Serum 01.22.2008 02:49 AM

the savage is quite a bit heavier though.

generalg 01.22.2008 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 142964)
the savage is quite a bit heavier though.

ya... so what motor is good for this setup that is reasonably priced? Fieago 9xl????? or?

generalg 01.25.2008 12:18 PM

Anyone know if this TRUERC 8000mah pack will fit in with this conversion?

TrueRC 14.8V 4S2P 8000mAh OR should I just get the smaller 5000mah 4S pack for this conversion?

Serum 01.25.2008 12:34 PM

Which ones? the 10 or 15 c's? the 10 c's should fit without a problem.

I expect the 15c's to fit too. Once i've got my chassis i'll get you the dimensions on what size cells you can use.

generalg 01.25.2008 12:41 PM

I was looking at this one.

Size


44mm x 50mm x 145mm

(1.73in x 1.96in x 5.7in)

Weight


Aprox 24oz / 680g

Discharge


Up to 80A Continuous

120A Max burst


Didn't know there was a 10 and 15.... not sure which one this pack is than.

jhautz 01.25.2008 12:46 PM

That's not all that big. It'll fit no problem. I just set my TrueRC pack on the lipo plate for my kit (I havent started assembling yet) and it looks like you should have no problem at all with that.

generalg 01.25.2008 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 143757)
That's not all that big. It'll fit no problem. I just set my TrueRC pack on the lipo plate for my kit (I havent started assembling yet) and it looks like you should have no problem at all with that.

What pack is it that you have from TRUERC?

Just can't decide... 8000mah or 5000mah more weight and runtime or lighter weight and less runtime. uuuurrrrrr

jhautz 01.25.2008 12:56 PM

8000mah. The 5000mah at 10c dont have the current capability. I typicially think anything with 80A or greater constant rating and 120A burst is adequete for 1/8 brushless. Less and you risk damaging the pack by putting to large of a load on it IMO.

Ive never had a 5000, but I can tell yo the 8000 are excellent value for the $. Ive had a set for a couple years now and they are still runnin strong.

generalg 01.25.2008 01:02 PM

jhautz, thanks for the help. You just made me spend $140!

:D

Serum 01.25.2008 03:22 PM

And you got yourself some serious nice lipo's their old cells are capable of delivering 2800 watts in burst as a 4S2P pack.

cemetery gates 01.25.2008 04:44 PM

I use a truerc 10c 4s2p 8000mAh lipo. I needed to use the supplied spacers to space out the TVP so I could get proper gear mesh and gear low enough. I use a neu 1515/1y/f and the lowest gearing I could fit without the motor hitting the battery was 52 spur, 18 pinion. This gives me about 38mph with the 3speed.

I was out bashing for a solid 35min. and only put back 4850mAh in to the battery. Also, the truerc 4s2p 8000mAh lipo is good for 3.425v/cell @ 124amp burst, they hold 3.525v/cell @ 100amp burst too. Not bad for $140....

Bye:mdr:

Serum 01.25.2008 05:04 PM

You could use the flat i think?

generalg 01.25.2008 05:04 PM

That's awesome cemeterygates!

So is this the pack correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/14-8V-8000mAh-Li...QQcmdZViewItem


Which after searching... searching on TRUERC I can't find the 8000mah pack today. urrrr, found it yesterday but not today go figure.

Serum 01.25.2008 05:05 PM

Jep, basejumpers, that's Dan from truerc.

generalg 01.25.2008 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 143830)
Jep, basejumpers, that's Dan from truerc.

Jep, basejumpers??? :rofl:

jhautz 01.25.2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by generalg (Post 143828)
That's awesome cemeterygates!

So is this the pack correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/14-8V-8000mAh-Li...QQcmdZViewItem


Which after searching... searching on TRUERC I can't find the 8000mah pack today. urrrr, found it yesterday but not today go figure.


You could just order it direct from him at www.truerc.com

Dan is a good guy and will get you what you need.


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