Romney what now?:tongue:

:lol:

Actually it's all of them... it's just easiest to spell/type democrat than republican.. plus it's easier to make fun of democrats for some reason. :na:

Democrats are like the french, you can smack them around and they just cry, and do what you tell them. hahaha

Now if you go smacking around at a republican, you'd better be armed or have brought friends (republicans protect their right to bare arms for a reason).

I will confess that I think they have ALL gone sloppy though, and the party-line has gotten too light and thin for my liking. As for me and my household we will remain "cocked, locked, and ready to rock" to protect our own freedom.

Fixed my query... Software option in Monster look like the same as in Mamba under 1.17...

controller.name version_customer gui_name setting_value.name help
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Software
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Curve LineColor na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Curve GridColor na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse/Brake Curve LineColor na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse/Brake Curve GridColor na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Hex55 Value na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 MidCount Default na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Cutoff Type Dummy Default na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake/Reverse Type Proportional w/ Reverse Lockout For bashing or racing (may not be an allowed setting for racing). The controller must see 2 seconds of steady neutral throttle before it will allow reverse operation.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake/Reverse Type Proportional w/o Reverse Racing setting - no reverse enabled at all.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake/Reverse Type Forward to Brake To Reverse Similar to lockouttype, but no neutral waiting required before reverse is enabled. The controller will quickly brake the motor to near zero rpm, before allowing it to run in the opposite direction in order to save transmission parts.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Start Power Low Best for almost any application, and any battery type/capability.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Start Power Medium Good for use along with high capability batteries, and light race cars, and some slow systems or rock crawlers.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Start Power High You MUST have top quality batteries to get the most from this setting without the car stuttering if it's set up for high speed. Best used for very slow/heavy rock crawler set-ups.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 PWM Rate Dummy Default na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 0%, Disabled No drag brake - car will freewheel in neutral
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 10% Lowest drag brake setting - good for bashing, or low traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 20% Low drag brake setting - good for bashing, or low traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 30% Medium low drag brake setting - good for medium traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 40% Medium drag brake setting - good for medium traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 50% Medium/High drag brake setting - good for medium traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 60% Medium/High drag brake setting - good for medium/high traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 70% High drag brake setting - good for high traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 80% High drag brake setting - good for high traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 90% Very High drag brake setting - good for very high traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake 100% Very High drag brake setting - good for very high traction racing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake MINIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake MAXIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Drag Brake INCREMENT na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 0%, Disabled No accelleration limiting. The accelleration will be 100% determined by thr capability of your battery pack to flow power and maintain voltage.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 10% Very low accelleration limiting - good for 4wd on high traction surfaces
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 20% Low accelleration limiting - good for 4wd on high traction surfaces
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 30% Med/Low accelleration limiting - good for 2wd/4wd on med/high traction surfaces
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 40% Med accelleration limiting - good for 2wd/4wd on med/high traction surfaces
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 50% Med accelleration limiting - good for 2wd/4wd on med traction surfaces and offroad
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 60% Med/High accelleration limiting - good for 2wd/4wd on med/low traction surfaces and offroad
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 70% Med/High accelleration limiting - good for 2wd/4wd on med/low traction surfaces and offroad
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 80% High accelleration limiting - good for 2wd/4wd on low traction surfaces and offroad
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 90% High accelleration limiting - good for 2wd on low traction surfaces and offroad
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Punch Control 100% "High accelleration limiting - good for 2wd on low traction surfaces and offroad, very good setting for ""easy on parts"" style bashing."
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 10% The brake will engage at a strength 10% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 20% The brake will engage at a strength 20% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 25% The brake will engage at a strength 25% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 30% The brake will engage at a strength 30% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 40% The brake will engage at a strength 40% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 50% The brake will engage at a strength 50% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 60% The brake will engage at a strength 60% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 70% The brake will engage at a strength 70% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 75% The brake will engage at a strength 75% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 80% The brake will engage at a strength 80% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 90% The brake will engage at a strength 90% as strong as the strongest brake setting.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount 100% The brake will engage at full strength.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount MINIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount MAXIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Brake Amount INCREMENT na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 10% Reverse throttle will be 10% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 20% Reverse throttle will be 20% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 25% Reverse throttle will be 25% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 30% Reverse throttle will be 30% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 40% Reverse throttle will be 40% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 50% Reverse throttle will be 50% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 60% Reverse throttle will be 60% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 70% Reverse throttle will be 70% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 75% Reverse throttle will be 75% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 80% Reverse throttle will be 80% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 90% Reverse throttle will be 90% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle 100% Reverse throttle will be 100% as strong as full throttle.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle MINIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle MAXIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Reverse Throttle INCREMENT na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 TransmitterCalLabel Transmitter Calibration na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 MinCalLabel Full Reverse na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 MinCalLabel Tx Min Default na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 MidCalLabel Neutral na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 MidCalLabel Tx Mid Default na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 MaxCalLabel Full Forward na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 MaxCalLabel Tx Max Default na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Very Small (0.0250 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Very Small (0.0375 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Small (0.0500 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Small (0.0625 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Small (0.0750 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Average (0.0875 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Average (0.1000 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Average (0.1125 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Large (0.1250 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Throttle Dead Band Large (0.1500 ms) na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Type Brushless Use this setting to run any brushless (3 motor wires) motor.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Type Brushed Reversing Use this setting to run any brushed motor, and have access to reverse.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Type Brushed High-Power Use this setting to run a brushed motor in foreward and brake only mode for racing.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Arming Time 1 second Wait for 1 second of neutral throttle before arming.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Arming Time 1.5 seconds Wait for 1.5 seconds of neutral throttle before arming.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Arming Time 2 seconds Wait for 2 seconds of neutral throttle before arming.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Arming Time 2.5 seconds Wait for 2.5 seconds of neutral throttle before arming.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Arming Time 3 seconds Wait for 3 seconds of neutral throttle before arming.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Arming Time 4 seconds Wait for 4 seconds of neutral throttle before arming.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Arming Time 5 seconds Wait for 5 seconds of neutral throttle before arming.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Cutoff Voltage No Cutoff Best for racing with top quality discharge NiMH or NiCad packs. DO NOT USE this setting with Lipo packs

Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Cutoff Voltage 5.0V Use when running a battery pack with 7 or more NiCD or NiMH cells.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Cutoff Voltage 6.0V Use when running a 2 cell LiPo battery pack.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Cutoff Voltage 9.0V Use when running a 3 cell LiPo battery pack.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Cutoff Voltage 12.0V Use when running a 4 cell LiPo battery pack.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Cutoff Voltage Auto Li-Po Use this for all applications where you are using Lipo batteries. When selected, the controller will detect the number of Lithium Polymer cells in series in your battery pack, and set the cut off voltage to 3 volts per cell. When you plug the battery pack into the controller, after the initialization tones the controller will flash and beep the number cells it counted, so you can confirm the controller setting. If the cell count is incorrect, make sure your batteries are charged and the correct cell count is flashed BEFORE flying. Note: Do not use Auto Lipo with NiMH or NiCad cells.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing Lowest (0) Best for bashing
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing Low (5) Good for bashing, and racing with the fastest motors
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing Normal (10) Good for bashing or racing, with most any motor
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing High (15) Be careful about motor heat (max safe temp is 200F) when using this setting. High Kv motors will get very hot very fast
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing Highest (20) Extreme caution necessary for almost any motor - be sure to check motor temps often.
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing MINIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing MAXIMUM na
Monster Max (F310C) 1.17 Motor Timing INCREMENT na

That is funny, wonder how bad french democrats are?!

Gun ownership is a good idea, especially for personal protection. But they are also a good investment as they rearely lose any value. And ammo is probably the best investment I have seen recently. Certain popular calibers have trippled in price over the last 5 years, and continue to climb.

I always work on the principle that I am ultimately responsible for myself and my well-being. So I have taken steps to ensure my safety, such as some training, research and firearm purchases.

"Look out for #1 and watch out for #2!"

I have never understood why there is such a dedicated effort in the country to disarm legal, tax paying, law abiding citizens. The police, God bless them, pretty much all they can do is clean up the mess and give you a report to file for insurance (good luck with that).

If Billary gets elected be prepared! Hope for a Republican Senate or House or both to hold her in check. An ill wind will begin blowing on gun ownership. I have several NRA classifications and sleep with a 8shot 12ga Win Defender pump. If anyone doesn't understand what that noise is when I rack one into the chamber, they're getting ready have a really bad experience.

Very nice choise of arms Duster. Good job lincpimp. Suppose I highjacked the thread with the gun stuff, sorry all.

Back to Castle stuff, am I reading this right that the Mamba Max software only goes to 4S?

I'm not sure if that firmware is shared with the MM also, but I expect the MMM to perform as specified up to 6s.

I've read where people are asking for higher voltage capability (up to 12s).. why? I just bought two 6s 3700mah packs on the cheap from United Hobbies (which work great by the way) but was still set back $270. Spending any more for batteries in my opinion would warrant buying a much costlier MGM or Shulze controller.

I think CC hit the nail on the head as far as price and performance. At 6s, overall system efficiency should be pretty good. I think a 6s 4000mah pack and the lowest kv motor in the line-up (~1550kv/v) would be enough to give you 15-minute main performance all day with no worries.

I know this is all considering that the system runs as expected. For $300, and say.. another $200 for a decent battery I think you have a viable switch from a nitro race set-up.

God, You guys kill me. I mean really! Most of you complain for month's on end about when the MMM is coming out, and then when it gets held back everyone suddenly has been electronics wizards and can build a 20s system already. and Then you crawl up Castle's butt because it is being held back? http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/banghead.gif I have for one been really nice in letting you you know something straight from the horses mouth when I wasnt supposed to say a thing. As well as others on here. But it still wasnt good enough. Now your not satisfied enough with the power it can handle or produce so your conjuring up HV systems for it and questioning its design makeup based on a cheap O.S. motor for Duratrax!? Do any of you remember what the whole Evader cost with that O.S. Motor? That would explain it if you did remember. Sorry guys but alot of you are no better than then the one18th.com kids trying to make a 1/2lb RC do 100 on the street and make everyone believe that they never stripped a gear, blown a batter, or desatroyed a whole rc. How about all of you who are intrested in the MMM (And yes that is the name for it, just because your computer data says it, meant that they didnt have a reason to add the whole description) Anyways, just be patient and see what it does, or what it will do. Or dont and get over it. There is always a TEKIN forum you can start.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ster-wheel.gif

:slap:

:sarcastic:

Oops, did that make you mad,lol.

A few deep breaths, slowly count to ten, release the mouse from the death grip, and have a cold glass of water team3six. It all works out well in the end.

Soon the MMM will be all over the place in 1/8th rc's running insanley fast on 6S (or less even), the market will open up with 1/8th electric vehicles, and people will be finding the rc hobbie transformed.

Then when castle is top of the heap they will start looking at the next greatest controller and where do you think they will find what people want? Right here where some guy's (who already drop huge amunts of cash into their rigs) are already asking for 12S stuff.

It's all good and no one will get hurt (I hope hehehe).

More like laugh. Some people take forum chat way to seriuosly. Get a grip.

If people didn't dream big and ask for more we would all still be living in caves. Nobody is disin CC for what they have done.

People are always going to want more and never be happy. A lot of the guys here already have gear that will do what the MMM will so they want something better.

Personally I will be ecstatic when I get the MMM in my hands.

I for one look forward to CCs new products. They seem to be ahead of the curve IMO. I am sure that the vast majority of the mmm systems will be purchased with the highest kv motor and run on 4s or (god forbid) a pair of venom 3300 stick packs! Most people out there have a hard time grasping lipo tech, that is why every issue of rcca and the others have some sort of lipo info in them. (on a side not I have read very little about balancers in the mags, so they have very little idea too, just like the bulk of the readers).

In any case the MMM will be 6s capable, most likely run cool, and have a variety of features that no other esc has now. Plus it will have customer support. And some sort of mass produced neu designed motor. I for one would like the middle kv motor and a 6s 4000 pack. Sounds like that would make an e-revo fly! As nice as hv is, it does pose some issues, mainly battery placement. Of course smaller cells can be used, but there is not a great selection of those at the moment. I like the maxamps 2100 cells, venom makes a good 2100 pack too. The flightpower cells are a bit longer, but may work too. Keep in mind that a 5s 5000 battery and a 10s 2100 battery have about the same output potential. And the 10s 2100 is cheaper and lighter.

6S is actually a good number for me, I run my 1/10th 4wd buggy on 3S packs anyway so I could easily run two packs in series and have 6S 5000mah for my hyper7, that and the "neu style" motor with a rcm mount and some CF trays wold be a rocking combe till I can build an e-revo.

Geez calm down mate, did you even read what I was responding to in my post that referred to the OS made dtx .18? I was just nitpicking on some semantics and stating the obvious that CC won't giving away their controller for free with a top of the line $300 Neu motor.

I have been very pleased racing with my HV110 on 8S A123's
I have easily completed a 15 min main on new packs so it will be interesting to see how long the A123's can continue to complete 15 minute races.

If the Monster Max can handle 28.8v than I would be willing to give it a try. Otherwise, I'll stick with the HV110 on 8S A123's until the HV Monster Max comes to fruition.

Higher voltage=lower amps. A few guys here understand that concept, but a lot still doesn't. 8-12S lipos will mean lower capacity packs. You can still use 4-6S lipos. AMPs is what causes most of the heat found in today's systems. Yes, we want a ESC capable of 20S, I'm trying to have one made that can handles 14S. Schulze for example has a good choice of controllers for every kind of application and you can't go wrong with the 40.160 and now they have a huge 300A controller (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/fut-xxl-e.htm) and a value controller line (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/prs22_d.htm). Schulze understand the market better then any other company out there and if a company is willing to risk who knows what with a monster like that, I would be following right behind them, but here in the USA. Even Jeti has a 300A controller, but it is only meant for the sky. Keep in my that the Thunder Power Performance Series Lithium's ( http://www.thunderpowerrc.com/html/h...rformance.html) are a bargain and if I can get 20 minutes out of 2200mAh in 6S imagine what 10S-12S 3700 or 4450mAh will do. It is a simple concept that a few people are finding difficulties understanding.

You guys got me all wrong. I wasnt being a dick about it, more like it was comical seeing everyone freak.
I talked to Joe after he posted here.
I think he wonders why he comes on the websites because of the banter before and after. Take what I said with a grain of salt. as I said befor it wasnt inteded towards everyone.

Ohh and yes I did read the whole thread. ever last word!
The DTX wasnt that bad, it was a cheap version made by O.S. specifically for the Duratrax.
and it was better than those japan made engines.
You can mod those to do something crazy in speed by the way. I know this because I have raced many Associated's with it and left them going oooh!
and just as Joe mentioned before. about the whole price tag! They expect to sell large quanities of them. That is what drives the price down. Im sure if you could buy a LOSI 8ight in walmarts and get the same quality, they would be cheaper too.
There is a possibilty that Horizon may just humor that possibility as I have heard through the grape vine.
Not an 8ight, but a lessor RC that would be more customer orientated.

I like using higher voltage because it reduces the amount of heat from high current draw and it allows the use of lower C rated batteries such as 10-15C Lipo's and really helps A123's, not to mention that I have always seemed to get better run times with higher voltage systems.

We don't have to image what you'll get from 12S 3700mAh or 4450mAh.
Setup properly, you should get over 33.6 minutes on the 3700's and over 40.45 min on the 4450mAh packs :intello:

Everyone freaked? Where? Methinks you flatter yourself too much.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand...

I have read all these posts, but none really mention what the MMM is. From what I understand the MMM will be 6s lipo capable. Thats about all I can find. Can someone provide a link to some info on the MMM.

Thanks,
Josh

I get so excited every time this thread gets brought back up. One day the new post will say ITS HERE!!!!!

The MMM is the Mamba Monster Max. Basically the big brother to the Mamba Max. Rated to 6s twice the cells of the MM and a high amp rating. Also it will be specifically for cars with car software and a motor designed for cars too. The motor should be a great motor as it a slightly modified Neu and it should all come for a reasonable price tag as well.

next page Joe said
"Look above for ESC specs. Motor specs have not been finalized but rough kv's are 2200, 1750, and 1550. We're not saying exactly which date guys...we can't see the future. "

Gents...an update for you all. Pass the word along. We are only going to have one motor kv available for the Monster Max. We found that during testing you could get anywhere from 30-65mph+ by just changing voltage or gearing. The motor is 2200kv, and should suit everyone's needs. Sorry to those who were hoping for the 1750 and 1550...I wanted the 1550 myself. :(

What about the controller alone? I have plenty of motors. Have you guys done any testing with the larger 1521 Neu motors? How about a 6 pole Mega motor? I don't mean to put you on the spot here, but I think a few of us would like to know which motors have you tested the Monster Max with and what were the results?

Aah yes, the controller alone is what I need mostly. Will there be a offering for the ESC alone in march?

We will be offering the ESC separately. The software that will be on the controller is the same as the software currently available for the Mamba Max (v1.17). Any motor that will run on it will run on a Monster.

Have you guys done any testing on heavier truck Joe?

Dang, looks like I might have to get another motor after all. I have a 6s NeuEnergy battery and I don't think the 2200kv motor will like that. Unless I like my motors to cook bacon and my truggy to go 80mph.

This should work out fine for me then as I already have my Neu motor, its a 1512 2.5D. I believe that is rated at 2000kv??

Any estimates on street price for just the ESC?

Are we still good for March?

will it be at WRAM?

Why couldn't you just use the castle software and slow the motor down. but keep the volts?
Or couldn't you use some radio programing and set your end points down, and change your throttle expo (I have a nomadio sensor, but I think the spektrum can do the same thing.

Then you could keep your batteriers and motor, just not using their "full potential"

Ok...I'll try to answer this barrage of ?'s. Here goes.

lutach...we have tried this in up to 14lb vehicles. We are discussing a 1521 series motor for larger/heavier vehicles such as the LST2, etc.

Sower...gear down. ;)

Cain...no estimates on separate components at this time. That'll probably be figured out just prior to release.

ssspconcepts...we are still shooting for March, but are presently waiting for things that are out of our hands. This obviously affects the release date.

ravin...no, but I will be. :)

ravin...no, but I will be. :)[/QUOTE]

Good luck Joe ,snow is moving in for friday.

Joe,

Do you have data from the tests? Any reading from a DPR or Eagle Tree?

Well, that's the thing, for best efficiency I want to keep the motor in a certain RPM range. The 1500kv was the best for my calcs based on the gearing and 6s batt. We'll see though. The "gear down" idea sounds good, but I don't know that it will be what I'm after. Don't know that I could find a small enough pinion. 9t is the smallest I know of - maybe I could find a 4t.