Ha ha ha..... These are the ways we test batteries now? They seem to be forgetting the fact that there are only a few places on the planet to get these cells. Kinda throwing it in our face that they think they are so much smarter than us by saying the same cells are better cause the sticker is cooler and has flames and a big number on it.

Come on now, you are forgetting the most important thing...... they send... a guy..... to China. That's got to be worth something right?

Not unless that guy is sir issac newton himself or even einstien, someone who isn't full of crap and can actually verify these cells capabilities. Honestly I don't really care all that much about a c rating. Just buy the highest avalible for the packs I want but it's a bit ludicrous to have double the rest of the market all the sudden. Maybee the garage has some special abilty to increase the c rating I don't know. Just sucks that these guys think so little of the customers that keep their business going that they will lie to their face to make a buck.

What you do not know
 

You guys are being a little bit mean. I am offended, because what you do not know is that in that tiny little garage (I mean factory) they have acquired the only flux capacitor from the movie set of "Back To The Future" and are using it to give their packs their initial charge, giving thier packs a "TRUE 150C" rating. See if you were as smart as they are, then you would have known this. This is why they have a blue flame sticker shrunk onto these packs, because it matches the flames that appear when the Delorian goes back to the future. See if you really understand the facts, then you get the reasoning behind the ratings. Get the fact gentlemen, get the facts. So hurry up now and go purchase MA packs and you to will be the collest cat in R/C racing. And probably get your a$$ handed to you at the track by some 12 year old kid using Turnegy packs.:rofl: ha ha ha ha ha ha.

See you guys are just stupid.:lol: Brandon Cox said so, and he's cool to. Oh and that guy they sent to China could not understand a word of Chinese, but from what he could gather they were trying to tell him that these are the best cells on the planet. Once again guys get your facts right.

I think I should buy some generic cells from China. I will send my brother there who is a pilot and knows nothing about batteries in general. I will get him to buy the cheapest cells that they have and ship them back to me. Then I will put Holographic stereogram flames on the side of the pack with big bold TRUE 300C written on there two. Don't forget the sooper dooper 12awg wires and Deans connectors which will handle these kind of discharges with ease. Throw in a few more gimmicks such as waterproof and able to survive a nuclear holocaust (even though you wont). That ought to do it me thinks. Should be able to steal most of their customers from them and become filthy rich. If only I had no sense of morals or dignity and had no trouble stealing peoples hard earned.........:lol:

Ya know
 

Ya know honestly if you did this and sponsored a table right next to the MA table at the next RCX I bet they would go absolutely crazy. Make your heat shrink wraps exactly the same only red, and do the TRUE 300C with the same exact graphics too, and tell them that you had some guy go to China and Singapore so he knows more than their guy does.:diablo: Then put the Lipo pack into some kind of death ray gun and melt their faces off.:na: That would be awsome man.

What do you guys mean? I have a ton of ma cells already, they just have blue shrinkwrap on them and are reasonably priced. Plus they have bigger wire so they are better right?

I daydreamed about this during the drive home, it's $1400 for a table for a weekend, it would be a laugh for sure.

A bit much for sure.
 

Yea that is a bit much for sure just to get a table for two or three days at an R/C promotion event. Gheeze what a ripoff. Yet another example of greed in our hobby.

But man wouldn't that be cool to set up a table next store to MA at one of these huge events, and have real graphs showing the difference between the MA cells and other manufacturers. Plus having open Lipo cells for the world to see just what MA are trying to sell to everyone for higher prices knowing all well that they are the same or inferior cells that some of the other suppliers are using. As stated most if not all of these Lipo cells are coming out of China. So how in the world can the cells MA is using be any better than anyone elses cells?

Then on top of that have some kind of test bench setup like they do at The Home Depot to compare drill batteries for overall power, peak performance, and longevity of a single charge. At the very least it would prove that MA cells are no better than any other cells. More than likely it would show that MA packs are poor in performance and not worth the extra $$$ that they are charging for their packs, unless you think that the cutesie $2 flame wrap is worth about $100.

Along with all of this I have yet to read one really good example of their advertised warranty that turned out in a positive manner. Not when you stack that against all of the bad stories we have read about Puffed and dead cells right out of the box or within the first one or two runs, and how they refuse to cover it. MA is obviously no better than any of the ripoff artists on Ebay who collect payment from people and then ship out boxes that are either empty or full of junk.

You know there is a problem when a company sells a product, and then has one of their own employees as a controlling entity on a national magazine that advertises their products. That is just a pure conflict of interest, and should be avoided. Anyone who believes that kind of BS needs to rethink their perspective. That would be no better than having lets say Ford rebadge a 4 cylinder Toyota, and then also have one of their Executives owning Road & Track magazine where they rave about this new 500hp product they have come out with. What MA is doing is no better than taking a Yugo, replacing the body with a look alike Corvette body and trying to sell it as an original Yugo high performance product. It really is pathetic when you examine the whole idea and compare what they have to offer over anyone else in the Lipo business. Its all smoke and mirrors.

I( went to RCX show in Pomona,thast saturday,saw MA's booth,gotta tell you everytime i went by they were just sitting there,didn't appear they had many people inerested in their product.Great show thou CC and RC4WD had some great looking stuff on display

Bound to happen
 

Yea it is bound to happen when you are selling a product with lies on it. How long do you think people are going to look at that (TRUE 150C) on those Lipo packs and not realize that it is false advertising? Sooner or later the word will get around and they will be barely scraping by trying to figure out what went wrong. God takes care of his own. The Karma is going to get them one way or another. You should have walked over and asked for Jason, and told them that the word was out that they were selling some great waterproof flashlight batteries, and then walked away. Their day is soon approaching.

Like the members here, the folks at RCGroups didn't fall for the BS either :lol::

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1434306

just thinking out loud here...


what is the resistance of Xin of 12g wire + deans plug?

if it is over .02 ohm, then any "claimed" rating over 500amps is lying...

7.4v x 500amps = .015 ohm

Kind of off topic, but did you see how much they are charging for sub-c cells? 10 bucks each! They are charging 10 bucks for a dead technology! I dont even think sub-c cells went for that much when that was all there was. But then again these sub-c cells have fancy flames on them! I wonder what they really are? Sanyo? Panasonic? The crappy cardboard wrapped ones with a MA shrinkwrap job? My bet is the latter. I wonder why they dont sell their lipo cells individually?

They used to sell individual lipo cells but it would give away the fact now that they are using the "b" grade turnigy cells in their 150c super packs! That's why we only got a 12c graph and they sucked at that discharge rate.