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BlackedOutREVO 02.26.2007 01:13 AM

we all need to be on it =P

jw, the mmm will be taking more cells then a quark rite? 2 times as many if i remember rite... and that will be sick lookin, a green neu lol that will be soo cool if thats how it looks

crazyjr 02.26.2007 03:17 PM

Thats the HV one, the standard MMM will do 6s, which will make the quark look like junk for specs, because it still will not do 6s despite the 6s rating

BlackedOutREVO 02.26.2007 03:35 PM

yeh, do u guys really think it will do 12 cell lipos???? thats waaay higher then most of the car speedos if not all, i havent seen a car/truck speedo thats capable of a 12 cell

jnev 02.26.2007 08:41 PM

I think I remember Cool Hand Country trying to run 10s if I remember correctly. But I haven't seen a anyone try 12s before.

Sylvester 02.26.2007 08:50 PM

Coolhand acutally ran 12s limn in his GTX2..

jnev 02.26.2007 09:12 PM

Oh, maybe he did use 12s. Do you remember how that went for him? Any problems running such high voltage?

BP-Revo 02.26.2007 09:49 PM

Well, electronic wise, it went ok, but the spur gears didn't appreciate the power. LOL I think he stripped a bunch just from giving too much throttle at too low of a speed. Imagine the power of 12S...you could have a 100+mph G2R (Hello touring car killer?). I'd love to see a setup G2R blazing past touring cars on the onroad track.

crazyjr 02.26.2007 09:59 PM

I have seen posts from Joe describing standing backflips with a 12 pound Gmaxx, I would guess thats the hv model

BP-Revo 02.26.2007 10:11 PM

Nah, you don't need crazy high voltage to do that. Standing backflips can be done on as little as 5S or even 4S with the right motor and gearing.

captain harlock 02.26.2007 10:23 PM

The schulze continent sized controller( 160.40) can handle over 12s easily.
It's sooooooo damn huge, though.

BlackedOutREVO 02.28.2007 07:59 PM

and the schulze also costs a TON of money lol

glassdoctor 02.28.2007 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ***RC***
15 days and counting... :027:

hee hee for what? I hope you are not expecting a MMM on the 15th.... although I would love to be wrong, it's going to be a couple months at the earliest.

BP-Revo 02.28.2007 09:01 PM

I think he has this mixed up with the re-opening of the GorillaMaxx site.

captain harlock 02.28.2007 09:01 PM

I'm planning to get a MGM16024 controller very soon, but would you think it's better to wait for the Monster Max, although it's pretty early?

jnev 02.28.2007 09:34 PM

Yep, you are right. I think I am starting to go blind, lol. I was talking about the Gorillamaxx website.

BlackedOutREVO 02.28.2007 09:54 PM

Lol Oooops:d

coolhandcountry 03.01.2007 05:31 PM

I ran the 12 limn just like lipo on 36120 bk micro.

Joe Ford 03.22.2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr
I have seen posts from Joe describing standing backflips with a 12 pound Gmaxx, I would guess thats the hv model

Not HV perse...that was only with 5/6s lipos. :) HV to Castle is 7s lipo plus. The Monster Max motors are XL motors with lower kv's (these have not been finalized but are going to be around 2000kv) ...if the packs can't provide the current the motor is trying to draw in the system the performance suffers. No estimated release date on them yet...when you're inventing something from scratch you NEVER know what's going to come up and have to deal with issues as you go along. :)

Serum 03.22.2007 01:27 PM

Thanks Joe.

Can you tell us if they will use segmented magnets or not?

BlackedOutREVO 03.22.2007 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ford
Not HV perse...that was only with 5/6s lipos. :) HV to Castle is 7s lipo plus. The Monster Max motors are XL motors with lower kv's (these have not been finalized but are going to be around 2000kv) ...if the packs can't provide the current the motor is trying to draw in the system the performance suffers. No estimated release date on them yet...when you're inventing something from scratch you NEVER know what's going to come up and have to deal with issues as you go along. :)


what speeds are we going to see on like a 4 cell lipo? or 14, 15 cells?

Joe Ford 03.22.2007 02:03 PM

Nothing has been finalized yet so I don't want to jump the gun...more info to come when available. :)

BlackedOutREVO 03.22.2007 02:05 PM

awww man =(

lol.... when do u honestly think it will be ready?

Serum 03.22.2007 02:10 PM

Glad to hear CC got wise on the lower KV's on MT's! for a moment i was worried a 5000kv motor would be included.. :p

AAngel 03.22.2007 03:01 PM

Oh man, that would be the ticket. A 2000kv motor the size of an XL! I've been considering a Neu 1515, but didn't want to go as high as 2200kv and the next step down was way under 2000kv. This fits perfectly for me.

Now...WHEN?

jnev 03.22.2007 06:31 PM

Yep, "when" is the question. I am eagerly waiting for it to come out, to run in my buggy. :027:

captain harlock 03.22.2007 07:14 PM

Still, it's only a matter of "yes" or "no".........Will it have segmented rotors?

crazyjr 03.22.2007 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Ford
Not HV perse...that was only with 5/6s lipos. :) HV to Castle is 7s lipo plus. The Monster Max motors are XL motors with lower kv's (these have not been finalized but are going to be around 2000kv) ...if the packs can't provide the current the motor is trying to draw in the system the performance suffers. No estimated release date on them yet...when you're inventing something from scratch you NEVER know what's going to come up and have to deal with issues as you go along. :)

Thank you Joe, for telling us what did it.
BP, thats a wild trick, I have a 7XL and 9XL (both on MM's and 5S) and neither could do that. Most i could get was flat on top

gixxer 03.23.2007 12:49 AM

crayjr, just wondering does your mm give you any issue with the 5s when the battery is fully charged? reason I ask is mine cuts out when I give it throttle if the pack is fully charged. If I just hold the car in the air and give it full throttle for 20-30sec then everything seems to work fine. As if the 21volts is to much but if it drops a few 1/10th's everything is fine.

BP-Revo 03.23.2007 01:17 AM

My HV-Maxx 4400 (orignal HV system) got me rotated so that it would hit the front bumper (but not make it over). If my HV could get me nearly fully flipped...I figure any BL system can.

It also depends on the truck. I'd assume a G-Maxx would be ALOT harder to do than a stock E-Maxx chassis (which is what I was running).

crazyjr 03.23.2007 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer
crayjr, just wondering does your mm give you any issue with the 5s when the battery is fully charged? reason I ask is mine cuts out when I give it throttle if the pack is fully charged. If I just hold the car in the air and give it full throttle for 20-30sec then everything seems to work fine. As if the 21volts is to much but if it drops a few 1/10th's everything is fine.

I have not seen anything but according to my nomadio it shows 20.89 on a fresh pack
BP you must run a really stiff setup because my current combo's are stronger than my 4400 and they can't do it

gixxer 03.23.2007 02:49 PM

thats good news. mine works fine as soon as the voltage drops down a few tenths. I already ordered a 4s 5000mah pack so that should fix the problem but then my car will be slow. So I will either have to put the 7xl back in or just not peak the battery all the way.

crazyjr 03.26.2007 08:12 PM

I think i'll skip the MMM. I just lost 2 out of 5 mamba maxes to the 2.23 castle link ( one got smashed today) the other is going to be returned to castle and either fixed or repaired, but till the link is fixed i
ll skip the stress of wondering if the esc will be junk if i update it

lxmuff 03.26.2007 09:18 PM

What exactly are you talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr
I think i'll skip the MMM. I just lost 2 out of 5 mamba maxes to the 2.23 castle link ( one got smashed today) the other is going to be returned to castle and either fixed or repaired, but till the link is fixed i
ll skip the stress of wondering if the esc will be junk if i update it


lxmuff 03.26.2007 09:21 PM

Nevermind. I read your other post.

crazyjr 03.26.2007 11:58 PM

The smashing of the esc was my fault, 2 esc's inoperable in three days was too much and i blew my stack (definately not the smartest thing i ever did)

BP-Revo 03.27.2007 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr
BP you must run a really stiff setup because my current combo's are stronger than my 4400 and they can't do it

This was on a stock chassis E-Maxx with PowerStroke shocks and a bunch of other mods, but dimension wise it was a stock chassis.

Serum 03.27.2007 04:35 AM

I understand your frustration.. Shoot castle an email, i think they will be kind enough to help you out..

2 out of 5 controllers down.. That's one unstable as heck upgrade..

captain harlock 03.27.2007 07:52 AM

He's got 5 Mamba Maxes?!

Does this mean you are gonna get like 10 Monster Max by the time it comes out?

Joe will surely be happy about that..:)

sleebus.jones 03.27.2007 08:12 AM

Hm. I've upgraded my MM several times, and likeways my Mamba and have never bricked an ESC. I've also upgraded other people's Mambas (talking 1/18th scale here) and other MM and haven't had a problem.

Maybe the castle link isn't the root cause?

Sleeb

crazyjr 03.27.2007 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BP-Revo
This was on a stock chassis E-Maxx with PowerStroke shocks and a bunch of other mods, but dimension wise it was a stock chassis.

That makes sense, high center of gravity and short wheelbase, my first brushless maxx was an extended Gmaxx


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