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BP-Revo 10.18.2007 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 123484)
Personally, I think the water has something to do with a vehicle that can withstand being run in a wet environment.

:lol::lol::lol: :rofl::rofl::rofl:

WOW - I hit the money on that prediction!!! :rules:

Hmm, I REALLY REALLY want one lol! The MGM's are waterproof too...hehehe...

I wonder if I can drive this thing completely submerged, cause that would be AWESOME.

Electric Dave 10.18.2007 07:42 PM

I've been waiting on a new E-MT from Traxxas for a while, hoping it would be an E-Revo so in a sense I'm disappointed but at the same time I think it's a good upgrade. It looks like it's totally race-able with only a tire change. It also is an easy upgrade to slap a HV-Maxx in there.

All things considered, I'm pleased Traxxas is giving us some attention finally.

DM

jhautz 10.18.2007 07:47 PM

Dont you guys remember when they updated the rustler/bandit/stampede, They came out with the "new and inmproved" XL5 version first. Basically discontinued the older version and then 6 months later or so the VXL showed up. I'd be willing to bet that we see the VXL Emaxx within the next 6-8 months and then the E-Revo.

I work in product development and they need to have a product road defined. They develop and release these things in a methodical/specific order to maximized the money they make. If they cam out with an e-revo, alot of the potential emaxx customers would skip it and go for the e-revo. This way they sell you the new Emaxx, then an E-revo later. They get money from yur pocket twice. Nothing wrong with it, just the way the world works.

mkrusedc 10.18.2007 07:51 PM

Traxxas employees just said the new E-maxx will be released around end of November ao early December. So the VxL E-Maxx could come out next year.?

mmdooley 10.18.2007 08:13 PM

I wonder where Traxxas comes up with all this stuff? I think they have someone going from website to website and stealing peoples ideas. And now Traxxas has an unfair advantage over other manufactures. Shame on you Traxxas.

t-maxxracer32 10.18.2007 08:26 PM

well traxxas is smart. if they are doing that then yay for them!! you know if you were a business man trying to please customers you would do the same thing.

maybe the truck isnt up to our specs but i guarantee this will be a huge success.

What's_nitro? 10.18.2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mmdooley (Post 123666)
I wonder where Traxxas comes up with all this stuff? I think they have someone going from website to website and stealing peoples ideas. And now Traxxas has an unfair advantage over other manufactures. Shame on you Traxxas.

Are you kidding me, mmdooley? People have been talking about water-proofing their electric vehicles for a LONG time. Just because Traxxas is the first company to produce a water-proof electric RTR truck, you think they ripped someone off??? If you want to shame someone, shame the people who did nothing but talk!

MetalMan 10.18.2007 09:07 PM

I'm rather disappointed... I've never liked the E-Maxx design, and this new release doesn't help. So much for "Next."

t-maxxracer32 10.18.2007 09:10 PM

i agree. ^^

Hickoryhead 10.18.2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 123661)
I work in product development and they need to have a product road defined. They develop and release these things in a methodical/specific order to maximized the money they make. If they cam out with an e-revo, alot of the potential emaxx customers would skip it and go for the e-revo. This way they sell you the new Emaxx, then an E-revo later. They get money from yur pocket twice. Nothing wrong with it, just the way the world works.

I agree. You have to have a clear route of travel. Most of us have been doing this for years. Being a noobie last christmas I bought a xl-5 Stampede. Why did I buy it? Because the cost was $200. If my wife ever finds out I payed more for a motor... :no:I wont go there. Cost is a big thing for people getting started. After I modified to a BL system then the VXL line came out. I looked at going to the Emaxx. But I made the jump for a G2R. I followed the route Traxxas set up. They got me time and time again. As I see it though there is only one more step to take unless they upgrade the Revo. Maybe a year or so.

lutach 10.18.2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 123646)
Yeah, just giving you a hard time. I am sure that Traxxas will bring out a brushless emaxx, and even an E-Revo eventually. They are a big company and rely on sales to pay the bills. I am sure that most of their stuff is not high profit, they just make it up with volume. I was serious when i said that I would be interested in your truck. Any chance you have a link or pics of the MR. C mugen? I have not had much success in finding any of his work.

Here it is in one of my thread's:

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...3&postcount=56
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...4&postcount=57

It is a well balanced truck. I had a problem with my Airtronics M8 and lost signal. The truck hit the curb at around 30MPH and only the servo mount and the SV27 motor had an issue. I will get a aluminum servo mount and get the truck ready again.

lutach 10.18.2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MetalMan (Post 123680)
I'm rather disappointed... I've never liked the E-Maxx design, and this new release doesn't help. So much for "Next."

Good point. I thought the same thing.

lincpimp 10.18.2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 123689)
Here it is in one of my thread's:

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...3&postcount=56
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...4&postcount=57

It is a well balanced truck. I had a problem with my Airtronics M8 and lost signal. The truck hit the curb at around 30MPH and only the servo mount and the SV27 motor had an issue. I will get a aluminum servo mount and get the truck ready again.

Nice looking truck, do you think he would make any more? Also did you have any success with the sv27 motor?

skellyo 10.18.2007 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 123661)
Dont you guys remember when they updated the rustler/bandit/stampede, They came out with the "new and inmproved" XL5 version first. Basically discontinued the older version and then 6 months later or so the VXL showed up. I'd be willing to bet that we see the VXL Emaxx within the next 6-8 months and then the E-Revo.

Ummm...try more like 11 months from the XL-5 to VXL versions. The XL-5 models were announced in July 06 and the VXL versions in June 07. However, my hope is that it would be sooner this time since they already have the Velineon system. At least they already have their feet wet with BL technology now.

lutach 10.18.2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 123691)
Nice looking truck, do you think he would make any more? Also did you have any success with the sv27 motor?

He makes them still. The SV27 motor is very strong. Top speed on the truck with 14.8v was around 45MPH.

BP-Revo 10.19.2007 12:45 AM

Well, I am disappointed in the sense that its an E-Maxx and not an E-Revo, since I inherently HATE the Maxx bulkhead design with such a passion its not even funny anymore. :whip::grrrrrr:

I once replaced the hingepins in my first E-Maxx 4 times IN A ROW. At ~20 bucks a pack for the Titanium ones I was using (couldn't use stock due to aluminum bulks) it ate through my money quick. For the same money I could have gotten a Feigao XL as a backup... :no:

However, all this waterproofing stuff has really caught my eye. I've wanted a truck that I can actively run in snow without worrying about frying stuff - and I think this is the ticket. Assuming I have the funds when this thing comes out, I will very likely pick one up, though probably leave it (mostly) stock. I'll use the new FlightPower Evo30 4500mah packs I got for my G2R. With the reduced weight and extra power of these packs the truck should perform decently, and in the snow I wont need super BL power... The mods I'll make will just be a LVC and a Spektrum Micro Receiver (the small receiver should clear enough room to fit the LVC inside the receiver case, or so I hope).

If its not powerful enough, at least I'll have an excuse to buy an MGM :whistle:

I'm going to look into this very far, and see what I come up with, but right now I'm very drawn to buying it.

lincpimp 10.19.2007 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 123707)
He makes them still. The SV27 motor is very strong. Top speed on the truck with 14.8v was around 45MPH.

How would I go about contacting him?

Flossin22s 10.19.2007 04:02 AM

I talked to the Traxxas guys earlier this year at the RC Expo in Pomona. I asked them when they were going to redesign the tired E-Maxx and come out with an E-Revo. All they could tell me was that there was something in the works that would be released later in the year.

All I can say about the new E-Maxx is that the Waterproof part is cool, but if the Traxxas guys were listening, they'd have made the E-Maxx brushless period.

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but the New E-Maxx was long awaited and is the most underpowered truck in the lineup now. Kinda disappointed that we have to wait even longer for the better truck. Hurry Up Traxxas and give us what we want already! That's how I feel at least...

rhylsadar 10.19.2007 05:18 AM

hi

i would not put much weight on the water resistant thing. i mean making the electrics water "resistant" wasn't a big issue before. and it is sure less problematic with brushed motors. i think that is a minor point.

i don't think its a bad thing to bring bring it with a cheap brushed setup. so you can choose the bl set you like. i would like it even more if it was a kit without any electronics at all though...but that will not happen with traxxas.

i also like that it is more basher oriented than racing.

bye
rhylsadar

wallot 10.19.2007 06:18 AM

the problem I see is a lack of real competition. E-savage with no aftermarket support is no match for maxx, so traxxas does not really need e-revo right now.
But for most of us, does it really matter that there is not e-revo? Isn't it better to pick the truck we like and just convert it?

lutach 10.19.2007 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 123730)
How would I go about contacting him?

Here is his e-mail address constructor@ace-cars.de. Here is a video of it going 51MPH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niPZE9_-89E
Here is a video of it at the park: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cpe_frO--Vw

JThiessen 10.19.2007 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mmdooley (Post 123666)
I wonder where Traxxas comes up with all this stuff? I think they have someone going from website to website and stealing peoples ideas. And now Traxxas has an unfair advantage over other manufactures. Shame on you Traxxas.

This has to be "tonque-in-cheek".....

I'm not sure why everyone is so dissapointed that they didnt come out with a brushless truck. If they had, nobody here would be happy with the motor system they put in it, and would have ended up replacing it anyway. I see it as they put together a relatively inexpensive vehicle that is brushless power capable right out of the box. Yeah, the titans will come out when I get one. But at a lot less $$ than if they sold it with some VXL brushless system. Yeah, an out of the box ERevo would have been cool too, but again, I dont believe any of us would leave the stock system alone. Like someone else here stated, the members here in this forum are the exception to the rule, and only represent a very small fraction of their market. We are much more likely to spend our money on aftermarket items (such as the Gmaxx), than at our local LHS.

mmdooley 10.19.2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 123679)
Are you kidding me, mmdooley? People have been talking about water-proofing their electric vehicles for a LONG time. Just because Traxxas is the first company to produce a water-proof electric RTR truck, you think they ripped someone off??? If you want to shame someone, shame the people who did nothing but talk!


Chill out it was a joke dude!!

ClodMaxx 10.19.2007 09:01 AM

i'm getting one when it comes out. it'll either be that, or i'm converting a LST2 to brushless (the LST2 will be bigger, but after seeing the upgrades to the new emaxx, i'm no longer convinced the LST2 will be tougher).

all i really want is to keep it as close to stock as possible, and bash the snot out of it. the titans/evx2 will be the first to come out when i get it, and i'll throw the LMT in there and see what kind of punishment the truck can take... :diablo:

mkrusedc 10.19.2007 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ClodMaxx (Post 123764)
i'm getting one when it comes out. it'll either be that, or i'm converting a LST2 to brushless (the LST2 will be bigger, but after seeing the upgrades to the new emaxx, i'm no longer convinced the LST2 will be tougher).

all i really want is to keep it as close to stock as possible, and bash the snot out of it. the titans/evx2 will be the first to come out when i get it, and i'll throw the LMT in there and see what kind of punishment the truck can take... :diablo:

My plans also but with the Neu. Lets see who does what first.:mdr:

Let the games begin!!!

gixxer 10.19.2007 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wallot (Post 123747)
the problem I see is a lack of real competition. E-savage with no aftermarket support is no match for maxx, so traxxas does not really need e-revo right now.
But for most of us, does it really matter that there is not e-revo? Isn't it better to pick the truck we like and just convert it?

I think you will end up with a better truck that way, but for the electric MT market to really pick up we will need to see something that is in a kit form. People just getting into the hobby are not going to convert things like most of us on here would.

sikeston34m 10.19.2007 10:12 AM

Let's give Traxxas some credit on this.....
 
As for me, I will buy one as soon as it comes available. I think Traxxas made several changes that are really great.

A transmission that is 2 1/2 times stronger than the original? This one has metal gears? I believe Ultramaxx and a few others were producing metal gears for the original but check into some of the pricing on those IF you can even find them.

The original transmission has always been the weak point for me. Even with RCM's metal idler gears, I can put together a setup that will blow the transmission away on the first run! At around 50 - 60mph, it just blows! I will definately put this new configuration to the test. I hope it's everything they say it is. Does anyone know where I can find specs/info on the 2 speed tranny kit?

Beefier driveline and diffs. The originals were weak.

Extended chassis. There's alot of aftermarket chassis's out there that we've been paying big money for.

With the new changes, this opens up a new list of specs, dimensions and options that we have to experiment with. I love it.:yipi:

crazyjr 10.19.2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Flossin22s (Post 123743)
I talked to the Traxxas guys earlier this year at the RC Expo in Pomona. I asked them when they were going to redesign the tired E-Maxx and come out with an E-Revo. All they could tell me was that there was something in the works that would be released later in the year.

All I can say about the new E-Maxx is that the Waterproof part is cool, but if the Traxxas guys were listening, they'd have made the E-Maxx brushless period.

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but the New E-Maxx was long awaited and is the most underpowered truck in the lineup now. Kinda disappointed that we have to wait even longer for the better truck. Hurry Up Traxxas and give us what we want already! That's how I feel at least...

Why should traxxas, make a brushless truck and sell it for 500+dollars. when most of us either couldn't afford it, or already got a better brushless than they could do in that price range. I think they did the right thing in providing the essential upgrades and letting us do our worst (in a good way:diablo:)

To those , who don't like the Emaxx, I think they did this as a check and see thing. they had a viable design and upgraded it to see what they will have to do in the next evolution (E-revo). I plan on getting one, I need a solid basher and with some alumnium bulks it might be perfect

My only thing to point out, in the truck, is that they forgot to add a Lipo cut-off to the esc. I think that would make it almost perfect

lincpimp 10.19.2007 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 123784)
I think you will end up with a better truck that way, but for the electric MT market to really pick up we will need to see something that is in a kit form. People just getting into the hobby are not going to convert things like most of us on here would.

This is a really good point. If a large company took a roller buggy or truggy (losi eight?) and instead of including the required nitro bits to finish it, had a bulkhead style motor mount and a plastic battery tray. Upgrade the radio box a bit and make it so that the parts directly fit on the nitro chassis. The only problem I can see is that there is not a complete "monster truck" capable brushless system. Plenty of esc and motors, but for electric to become more popular a complete system is needed. Look at how popular the Mamba max system is, wonder how many they have sold!? The MMM would definately sell with the availability of some larger scale electric vehicles. And we all know that most of the conversions are easy, if mfgs made the battery mounts and had good wiring management they would sell a fair amount of kit or roller electric vehicles.

coolhandcountry 10.19.2007 10:35 AM

Well if people was to notice the new chassis design. It is designed like a revo chassis. Twin servos twisted a little. Angled battery trays. I expect a e revo before long. The new trans you see on emaxx well be on it. As for the weak pins. The stock arms flex takes all the pressure off the pin unlike aluminum. The pins last much better. I am proud of traxxas improvements. I think they have done more for people then alot of others have. My big question is when and where to buy.

gixxer 10.19.2007 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 123790)
If a large company took a roller buggy or truggy (losi eight?) and instead of including the required nitro bits to finish it, had a bulkhead style motor mount and a plastic battery tray. Upgrade the radio box a bit and make it so that the parts directly fit on the nitro chassis. The only problem I can see is that there is not a complete "monster truck" capable brushless system. Plenty of esc and motors, but for electric to become more popular a complete system is needed.

I think that day will come, just think it will take a little while since MT brushless systems are just starting to hit the market. Novak and Castle should have ones out soon and with lipos becoming more popular hopefully some manufacter will take there nitro kit and just make a few changes and release it as an electric. leaving the suspension and main parts the chassis the same.

gixxer 10.19.2007 12:35 PM

One thing that surprises me is that the esc doesn't list a lvc. It would be good to have that option even if you are going to run titans. I would actaully think about getting one just to bash but I dont like the idea of an external cut off.

Finnster 10.19.2007 12:56 PM

The more I look at it, the more I like it and think TRX made exactly the right move for the market. I was initially a bit disappointed as I hoped for a Revo, but this is about as close as to be expected for now. I still hate the bulk/ dog-eared chassis design of the maxx, but otherwise everything is Revo quality. If it was a full-length chassis w/ very strong bulks (w/ captured pins) like the Revo, the I would have rated this a 9.8 of 10. Now a 9.05 :)

I still think it will be a year or so before we see a ERevo or VXL Emaxx compliment, but OTOH, selling it w/ the titans is about as close to a ARTR roller as TRX is going to come. As said, you don't have to pay $500+ for one, and then get stuck w/ a low-end TRX BL system. Ebay the titans/esc for $80-100 and the roller is $300 or less and about as BL ready as something is going to come. I don't think this will require huge upgrades to be bashable. We'll see about those diffs, but my stock revo's have been ok for the most part. I've blown 3 in ~18mos, and cheap enuf to fleabay new ones.

One big consideration I think about RTR BL. Nimh still dominate. Its hard to build a powerful and reliable system on low voltage. To make it cheap, reliable and powerful is about impossible currently w/ BL. They'll make the truck, and let Castle or Novak or whomever worry about n00bs and warranty issues.

One complaint. Why couldn't they have given it some sort of distinguishing name, other than "Emaxx model 3905"? WTH?

skellyo 10.19.2007 01:40 PM

FYI, stormerhobbies.com has it listed as on order and priced at $399.95. Horizon has it listed for $369.99 http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=TRA3905

tashpop 10.19.2007 01:53 PM

much better than towers price of over $500.

skellyo 10.19.2007 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tashpop (Post 123835)
much better than towers price of over $500.

Tower always has high pricing until they get closer to actually having the product in stock. It was the same way when the VXL's came out...tower was really high for about a week or so and then their prices dropped to the same or less than most others.

What's_nitro? 10.19.2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mmdooley (Post 123763)
Chill out it was a joke dude!!

I apologize. But please insert a smiley or two if you're joking. It's really hard to tell if it's just type. :neutral:

Haldir 10.21.2007 12:57 AM

I have an Electric Brushless Revo that would run circles around this. What do I need this for, because it's waterproof? LOL:lol:

:na:

hyperasus 10.21.2007 03:12 AM

All I want to know is will these new trannys bolt up too a G3R? Sure by nice to have the Revo style slipper without having to be one of the lucky few with one of Mike's slipperentials.

jhautz 10.21.2007 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperasus (Post 124142)
All I want to know is will these new trannys bolt up too a G3R? Sure by nice to have the Revo style slipper without having to be one of the lucky few with one of Mike's slipperentials.

I asked at the show if the new tranny would bolt into the old chassis and they said that it would not. So its not likely that it will fit the gmaxx chassis either. I'm sure that Gmaxx will update the rails to fit the new tranny eventually though.


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