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team3six 01.19.2008 10:44 PM

I assure you the MMM is not a myth. Im on it awaiting more on the progress.
Quote:

Originally Posted by C-5Quad (Post 138217)
I guess that the MMM is just a myth......something to wish for while we pass time.

here is one
the new sidewinder is only $144.00 at tower with a 5700 motor
and only $76.00 for the esc alone why is it cheeper???
what did they down grade???


C-5Quad 01.19.2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six (Post 142395)
I assure you the MMM is not a myth. Im on it awaiting more on the progress.

We all have been waiting............and waiting............and waiting
I hope it does come out soon

johnrobholmes 01.19.2008 10:59 PM

The sidewinder release foreshadows it, says Holmes.

MTBikerTim 01.20.2008 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 142398)
The sidewinder release foreshadows it, says Holmes.

What's that mean?

jnev 01.20.2008 01:45 PM

I think it means that because the Sidewinder is now out, the MMM should be coming out "soon". :smile:

johnrobholmes 01.20.2008 02:08 PM

Lol, yeah. The production schedules for the two controllers are on about the same timeframe.

MTBikerTim 01.20.2008 06:53 PM

Mmmm I wasn't sure about your cryptic comment so I though I would check. Do you know anything about the motors. Are they going to be releasing with a couple of motors or still just the one?

johnrobholmes 01.20.2008 07:14 PM

I know nothing about the motors right now.

MTBikerTim 01.20.2008 07:22 PM

Thanks John. I can't wait to here an official set in stone release date on these things.

Sower 01.21.2008 11:17 AM

I doubt there will be an official release date until they're actually released. I don't think they want to set another date based on what's happened so far. :lol:

team3six 01.21.2008 12:04 PM

This is what I know as of so far base solely on word. I am not associated with castle but I have been involved with the Tech's in discussions on the ESC's and their capabilities. Bernie one of the Tech's there who I have known for a some time and have had many conversations with. Had informed me that they had to place the MMM on the back burner for now, (Not meaning the production has stopped and Not in those words!) The reason is as what has been previously stated was because of the release of the Sidewinder and testing for the MMM, It is not official so I dont want anyone to quote me, But they have been working with Steve Neu for awhile on the motor design and are in works to offer a high quality system that is efficiant and responsive to its need. Castle's quote is "We don't want you to just run with the Nitro's, we want you to Beat the Nitro's" One thing that most people have to understand when developing a product is there are hacks coping idea's on design's and then there are developers making products that are often duplicated, never imitated. Castle is developing a quality product that they want you to not just purchase, but reley on as being the best their is to offer for performance and price. So I can say that in my years working with castle and using their products I wouldnt be as so impatient but rather it is worth the wait to have something worth having.

Note: Just remember how many times you have said I cant wait for (product) to come out and when you finally get it, it was never worth the antisipation to have it in the first place. If only they spent more time developing it. castle doesnt want you to question that.

Serum 01.21.2008 01:26 PM

Quote:

I doubt there will be an official release date until they're actually released. I don't think they want to set another date based on what's happened so far
that would be an indication they are learning!

Sower 01.21.2008 01:35 PM

Hey Serum - not to highjack the thread, but have you gotten any of my PM's about your battery tray design?

Electric Dave 01.21.2008 03:55 PM

All I want is for this thing to ship by the time race season starts on the east coast.

Hope it's real (and shipping) by Mid April.

DM

lutach 01.21.2008 04:01 PM

Patrick mentioned that the MMM was done and he was going to sell the ESC first.

jnev 01.21.2008 04:28 PM

Lutach - can you post the link to the thread where he said that please?

Serum 01.21.2008 04:32 PM

That was said a long time ago; i don't see it happen though, Castle is out to get a 60-70 mph monstertruck conversion.. not an ESC only.

Sower 01.21.2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Serum (Post 142791)
That was said a long time ago; i don't see it happen though, Castle is out to get a 60-70 mph monstertruck conversion.. not an ESC only.


Really? I thought the last I heard CC was planning on having the MMM released in February. Boy, I wish we could get some kind of firm info on it.

jhautz 01.21.2008 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sower (Post 142794)
Really? I thought the last I heard CC was planning on having the MMM released in February. Boy, I wish we could get some kind of firm info on it.

Ahhhh..... The great brushless myth lives on. lol

Sower 01.21.2008 04:46 PM

This is like bigfoot or something. :rofl:

Dude, I swear - I saw him!!

jhautz 01.21.2008 04:49 PM

I took a really fun ride on a flying pink elephant last night and I spotted the MMM in the back of Santa's sleigh.

Serum 01.21.2008 04:53 PM

I am 'participating' in their beta testing program, but i never heard anything from them. I wonder what this beta testing program means. I'm slowly beginning to think it's 100% pure rubbish.

MetalMan 01.21.2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Serum (Post 142804)
I am 'participating' in their beta testing program, but i never heard anything from them. I wonder what this beta testing program means. I'm slowly beginning to think it's 100% pure rubbish.

CC didn't have a beta program for the Sidewinder, and I highly doubt us beta testers will be seeing anything of the MMM.

Serum 01.21.2008 05:08 PM

Exactly, 100 percent rubbish. What's the use of a beta testing program if you don't use it?

lutach 01.21.2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnev (Post 142790)
Lutach - can you post the link to the thread where he said that please?

Post #83 and one in post #107 saying he was just waiting for plastic and packaging:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...=683583&page=6

lutach 01.21.2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 142804)
I am 'participating' in their beta testing program, but i never heard anything from them. I wonder what this beta testing program means. I'm slowly beginning to think it's 100% pure rubbish.

I applied for the same thing and I even spoke to Joe about it a few months back.

Sower 01.21.2008 05:18 PM

Why is it that on that thread Patrick is really good about giving info out and then he just vanishes? His last post was on Nov. 15th - that's two months without any updates . . . ? Seems like there's a problem to me.

lutach 01.21.2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sower (Post 142813)
Why is it that on that thread Patrick is really good about giving info out and then he just vanishes? His last post was on Nov. 15th - that's two months without any updates . . . ? Seems like there's a problem to me.

A company like Castle should not have any problems coming out with good ESC. My best guess is that they are trying to make their controllers different from others and stuffing a lot of things that is not needed. One example is the timing, Castles doesn't use the usual degrees like most companies do and that will confuse some people. I know that 2 pole motors works good with 0-5 degrees in timing and I've seen in another forum a guy that used to work for Castle recommend 18.75 degrees with the GT on 2 pole motors. I know from my experience so far if I set my controllers with a higher degree of timing on 2 pole motors, they tend to overheat a bit. I like MGM's Automatic setting :lol:.

BrianG 01.21.2008 06:00 PM

I wonder if CC uses adjustable timing to a degree and the low, med, or high settings simply adjusts the timing range?

MTBikerTim 01.21.2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six (Post 142691)
One thing that most people have to understand when developing a product is there are hacks coping idea's on design's and then there are developers making products that are often duplicated, never imitated. Castle is developing a quality product that they want you to not just purchase, but reley on as being the best their is to offer for performance and price. So I can say that in my years working with castle and using their products I wouldnt be as so impatient but rather it is worth the wait to have something worth having.

I think everyone understands this but that makes it worse for us. We know when it comes out it will be the best but that makes the waiting hard.

team3six 01.21.2008 07:30 PM

I know this sound funny to you all, but instead of listening to he said she said. is it so hard to call Castle and talk to them like I did. You know it isnt too hard to talk to them and believe it or not, They actually answer the phone and talk to you one on one with reading a telepromptor to answer questions.

Electric Dave 01.21.2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 142804)
I am 'participating' in their beta testing program, but i never heard anything from them. I wonder what this beta testing program means. I'm slowly beginning to think it's 100% pure rubbish.

Some months ago I emailed Castle regarding the beta program and I did get a reply saying that they didn't think they were running a beta for the MMM. Apparently they had enough test vehicles/testers in-house. I was quite bummed.

DM

johnrobholmes 01.21.2008 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 142820)
I wonder if CC uses adjustable timing to a degree and the low, med, or high settings simply adjusts the timing range?

This is correct, they use variable timing depending on load and rpm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by team3six (Post 142842)
I know this sound funny to you all, but .... is it so hard to call Castle and talk to them like I did?

No it is not, I have talked to them 5 out of the past 10 business days.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacII (Post 142860)
Some months ago I emailed Castle regarding the beta program and I did get a reply saying that they didn't think they were running a beta for the MMM. Apparently they had enough test vehicles/testers in-house. I was quite bummed.

DM

They do most of the testing in house, indeed. They have enough vehicles and testers to accomplish this, and it also keeps new products in secrecy. When Shawn left the beta program got revamped, which seems to have basically ended it.

lincpimp 01.21.2008 09:21 PM

Handy info JRH. Is the MM software revision oming out tonight? Or soon?

johnrobholmes 01.21.2008 09:32 PM

They did complete it, just got off the phone with them. It might go up tonight, but probably tomorrow morning around 10-11 am Central since the webmaster is in Arizona.


It will now be our job to triple check it for any bug we may find so they can fix it asap.

kulangflow 01.22.2008 09:13 AM

From Castle:

Version 1.10 Final 01/21/08
New start algorithm vastly improves cogging, rolling backwards starts, and general throttle feel.
Added Throttle Dead Band adjustment
Added Arming Time adjustment. This is used so that spread spectrum receivers have time to synch before the unit becomes armed.
Added calibration information to Castle Link display

jhautz 01.22.2008 09:43 AM

:surprised:Could this be the long awaited MM update!!!!!!

BlackedOutREVO 01.22.2008 11:04 AM

Someone update there MM and tell us already! lol

Sower 01.22.2008 11:06 AM

Look, there's Bigfoot!!!:na:

jhautz 01.22.2008 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sower (Post 143009)
Look, there's Bigfoot!!!:na:

:lol:


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