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its me 05.13.2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordan... (Post 172213)
This build is sooo awesome, i love the pics with both the MMM's mounted, such a clean install!! Sorry im not much help with the battery Q, just thought id chime in :whistle:

jordan

LOL thank man!
Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 172214)
No you will not hurt anything as long as you do not cut into the aluminum casing of the Lipo pack itself. The shrink wrap is nothing more than a nice way to keep everything looking good and in a neat package. If you are worried about damaging the casing for warrenty purposes then get another piece of shrink wrap and replace it exactly as it is now once you have moved the wires the way you need them. No worries mate.

Thank you sir, just wanted to check:mdr: figure I ask before I do LOL dont want to mess them up, reason I asked is a read some post from brianG about lipo wire length.

JERRY2KONE 05.14.2008 04:02 AM

Questions???
 
Ok I just received a set of hybrid bulks from RCM and I also purchased a set of Hot Bodies Diffs with hardened steel gears to go in them. I got the 10 tooth helical pinion to go with the setup and man is it beefy. I never knew that they were so heavy duty. I am truly glad that I decided to put this setup together and use it in one of my trucks just to try it out. Now I am sure that I will be purchasing more to convert my other builds. Anyway my question is this. I have everything I need to put these hybrid diffs together except for the pinion gear bearings. What is the size of those bearings and are they listed anywhere? Also is there an aluminum diff cup out there to fit these HB diffs? Any info or links would be grately appreciated. Thanks guys.

Duster_360 05.14.2008 07:03 AM

Those should be std brg 8x16x5mm, I used Ofna diff kits to build my hybrids with and those were what it took. Any brg place will have them, I used the Avid Revolutions in them.

http://www.avidrc.com/shop/?action=i...=1&prevstart=0

suicideneil 05.14.2008 08:07 PM

Im sure that there are alloy diff cups for those diffs, I've seen a couple people disuss them before but Im buggered if I can remember where...

jordan... 05.14.2008 10:10 PM

The only company i could find that makes Al cups for the HB diffs is Nova RC, so not too sure if you want to get them. Someone also said that a Savage diff cup from Maximizer would fit if shimmed correctly. Check out my centre diff thread: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11190

its me 05.15.2008 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 172638)
Ok I just received a set of hybrid bulks from RCM and I also purchased a set of Hot Bodies Diffs with hardened steel gears to go in them. I got the 10 tooth helical pinion to go with the setup and man is it beefy. I never knew that they were so heavy duty. I am truly glad that I decided to put this setup together and use it in one of my trucks just to try it out. Now I am sure that I will be purchasing more to convert my other builds. Anyway my question is this. I have everything I need to put these hybrid diffs together except for the pinion gear bearings. What is the size of those bearings and are they listed anywhere? Also is there an aluminum diff cup out there to fit these HB diffs? Any info or links would be grately appreciated. Thanks guys.

I can take measurements of a jammin one if it helps? I know nova makes cups for the jammin, they look almost identical to the HB cups.

its me 06.23.2008 10:12 PM

For those wondering, e maxx will be done and ran soon.. Just got some issues to take care of first.

JERRY2KONE 06.24.2008 03:41 AM

Updates
 
Sounds good. We all look forward to seeing this thing running. I also have some info to clarify. I purchased aluminum diff cups for the hybrid diffs. I got a pair of the Maximizer cups, and a pair of the RCM diff cups for the savage. They work perfectly in the hybrid diff housings. The only thing that I did not realize was that the bearing on the diff cup was an odd size, so I had to order them special and I am still waiting on them to come in. I think they are 12X16X5. Sine I had ordered a huge lot of bearings from that bearing company and got the free caliper I got to use it, and made sure that I ordered the correct bearings. So now I am waiting on them to arrive. The only problem is that the movers are packing our stuff up right this minute. SO now it has to wait till we arrive in Korea.

Overall I now see why everyone likes these hybrid diffs for the Maxx and Revo trucks. They are really hefty and seem to be pretty much indestructable as long as you set them up correctly. With the builds I am working on they will have to be. Nice work on your custom chassis setup. Have you run that thing yet? I look forward to seeing some videos of your toy tearing up the dirt.

mriccucci 07.08.2008 10:18 AM

Ok so things have been a little hectic lately, between my best friends wedding and my sister moving to Texas i've been neglecting my truck. I ran it once but the temps were through the roof, and it handled like crap. I bought a sway bar kit for an 8ight and got them partialy installed. I'm thinking about going to a 6s system to cool things down and get a better battery.

Any suggestions on a motor and controller combo?

suicideneil 07.09.2008 11:18 AM

MMM esc and motor combo- pre-order it now from tower or where-ever has it advertised. You wont find better value or quality in that price bracket ($300-350).

killermmn 07.16.2008 02:53 PM

question about the lst 2 diff convertion
do my traxxas driveshaft and center cvd can be use whit this convertion
a got a 3905 maxx

mriccucci 07.16.2008 10:31 PM

You'll need to purchase the adapters mike sells, here
. those will go in place of the normal outputs for the left and right. so if you replace both diffs you'll need 4 of those units.

George16 07.17.2008 12:48 AM

Or you can buy the revo stub axles and cut the threaded portion off.

its me 08.13.2008 03:33 AM

Oh god this poor truck!!! back again kind of but i got some dumb questions..... If I just plug in and run my twin MMM will the LVC work right for the two 4S batts !?!?!?! I am asking because back a few months for the life of me I could not get the castle link to work for me :(

suicideneil 08.13.2008 04:03 PM

I believe there is an 'auto lipo' setting that will detect how many cells you are running, but whether this is default or not im not sure. Start your castlelink programme first, then with your castlelink, make sure you plug in the little pcb into the usb lead, then plug that into your PC/laptop. Now connect the pcb castlelink to the rx lead of the MMM, and it should be detected by the PC and programme.

Ever heard of the Unslow harness for running a dual BL setup?..

its me 08.16.2008 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 201344)
I believe there is an 'auto lipo' setting that will detect how many cells you are running, but whether this is default or not im not sure. Start your castlelink programme first, then with your castlelink, make sure you plug in the little pcb into the usb lead, then plug that into your PC/laptop. Now connect the pcb castlelink to the rx lead of the MMM, and it should be detected by the PC and programme.

Ever heard of the Unslow harness for running a dual BL setup?..

No please enlighten me :)

I also see that there are still problems with the MMM v2? Guess ill send mines back/ ano this bitch black/ and try to figure out how in the hell to get that dam castle link to work on my computer.

suicideneil 08.16.2008 09:08 AM

If your MMMs work fine, I wouldnt bother sending them back unless they die- the replacement V2s will be more reliable, but if it aint broke & all that..

As for the unlsow harness:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...lharnessv3.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...lelharness.jpg

_paralyzed_ 08.18.2008 01:34 PM

that unslow??? harness just runs the batteries in parallel, so both controllers always see the same voltage, effectively making it a "one battery, two esc, two motor system" you're not on a vista computer are you? vista doesn't like the castle link, you should though get the link working and make sure your mmm's are set to either 4s or auto lipo, better safe than exploded

suicideneil 08.18.2008 04:33 PM

UNSLOW = co-designer of the parallel harness. When traxxas unveiled the V-twin concept, millions of noobs on the traxxas forum instantly wanted to know how to do their own version, so me and Unslow came up with item to make sure that lipo batts discharged evenly, preventing the lvc kicking in on one esc before the other.

Arct1k 08.18.2008 05:14 PM

Just use this : http://www2.gpmd.com/imagel/g/lgpmm3141.jpg

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPTT6&P=7

with this parallel:

http://www2.gpmd.com/imagel/g/lgpmm3142.jpg

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXNKY8&P=ML

or a noraml series /parallel adpater

jayjay283 08.18.2008 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 203028)
UNSLOW = co-designer of the parallel harness. When traxxas unveiled the V-twin concept, millions of noobs on the traxxas forum instantly wanted to know how to do their own version, so me and Unslow came up with item to make sure that lipo batts discharged evenly, preventing the lvc kicking in on one esc before the other.


Thats me !! 1 of the 1st Million n00bs to use it !! Made the vtwin alot more reliable and fun. With crapamps 3s 5000 lipos flooring it or breaking hard would trigger one or both of the LVC's from the voltage drop of the crappy lipos, but the unslow made it run like a champ, never replaced an esc or motor on it - like the even-n00bers I read about blowing out systems left and right. Neils great at helping n00bs :lol:

George16 08.18.2008 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 203028)
UNSLOW = co-designer of the parallel harness. When traxxas unveiled the V-twin concept, millions of noobs on the traxxas forum instantly wanted to know how to do their own version, so me and Unslow came up with item to make sure that lipo batts discharged evenly, preventing the lvc kicking in on one esc before the other.

I'm sorry to break your bubble but the parallel harness (and series adapters for that matter too) had been in use by the flyboys way before you and unslow "designed" it :whip::whip:. Just like how they were the first ones to use Lipos before land-based rc vehicles start using them.

its me 08.19.2008 04:09 AM

I like this very much :)

Oh and i did make a parallel harness so thats taken care of.

an no im not on a vista comp, this dam castle link crap is really pissing me off....

Patrick 08.19.2008 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George16 (Post 203080)
I'm sorry to break your bubble but the parallel harness (and series adapters for that matter too) had been in use by the flyboys way before you and unslow "designed" it :whip::whip:. Just like how they were the first ones to use Lipos before land-based rc vehicles start using them.

Yeah, nothing special about a parallel harness, but I do remember suggesting them to the "noobs" before they started making them for their V-twins. Suicideneil was the one who drew a diagram of how to make it and Unslow was just the first person to make one with traxxas connectors and post a picture of it, so it's a parallel harness, not an unslow harness :yes:

suicideneil 08.19.2008 09:50 AM

Bah, you're all just jealous... :yes:

its me 08.26.2008 01:50 AM

one of these days ill get the castle link to work...




First this error message
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9...enshot1ym0.png

_paralyzed_ 08.27.2008 01:56 PM

call castle...

Gee 09.25.2008 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by its me (Post 205537)
one of these days ill get the castle link to work...




First this error message
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/9...enshot1ym0.png

If you haven't got this fixed yet. It could be the DLL has become corrupted. You can try uninstalling the microsoft .NET framework using the add/remove programs in control panel and reinstall the latest version. I would recommend downloading the program using the save file option and running the install from your hd.

http://www.microsoft.com/net/Download.aspx

its me 11.08.2008 11:38 PM

Got the MMM programmed and should be able to run when my balance plugs come. This poor thing got put on the back burner because offroad racing has gotten intense in the past months :)

_paralyzed_ 11.10.2008 02:26 PM

I'm still subscribed to this thread and hoping to see your creation come to life. I'm glad you got the MMM programmed. Later!

SnoopMaxx 12.26.2008 01:40 AM

Subscribed
And happy new year:party:

its me 01.06.2009 12:46 AM

Day dreaming is over, now the real set up work begins... thing is just uncontrollable...

I didnt even get to use full throttle :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsH7v...e=channel_page

George16 01.06.2009 01:06 AM

Nice video. Glad to see it finally running :party::party:.

_paralyzed_ 01.06.2009 02:07 AM

man that thing looks awesome. Are you able to run tall gearing? Take advantage of that extra torque!

JERRY2KONE 01.06.2009 02:31 AM

Nice!!!
 
Nice to see your rig finally up and running:yipi:. That setup looks sweet. It also seems to be running pretty smooth for you:intello:. How is the drivetrain holding up for you:eyes:? And you need to get yourself a set of Axial beadlocks for that thing:whip:. There is no way that CA glued tires are going to hold together with all of that power. Check out the thread "To Glue or not to glue":mdr:. Nice work itsme. I am sure that you are feeling much better about your work now.:yes:


Quote:

Originally Posted by its me (Post 249154)
Day dreaming is over, now the real set up work begins... thing is just uncontrollable...

I didnt even get to use full throttle :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsH7v...e=channel_page


its me 01.06.2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 249173)
man that thing looks awesome. Are you able to run tall gearing? Take advantage of that extra torque!

Hahaha funny you said that, the gearing right now should be about 75MPH but im diffing out really hardcore.. I got 7K in the center :)

I was just bliping the throttle, thinking about running 22t pinions.

its me 01.06.2009 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by George16 (Post 249159)
Nice video. Glad to see it finally running :party::party:.

thanks man!
Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 249178)
Nice to see your rig finally up and running:yipi:. That setup looks sweet. It also seems to be running pretty smooth for you:intello:. How is the drivetrain holding up for you:eyes:? And you need to get yourself a set of Axial beadlocks for that thing:whip:. There is no way that CA glued tires are going to hold together with all of that power. Check out the thread "To Glue or not to glue":mdr:. Nice work itsme. I am sure that you are feeling much better about your work now.:yes:

haha thanks! its holding up well so far!

_paralyzed_ 01.06.2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by its me (Post 249185)
Hahaha funny you said that, the gearing right now should be about 75MPH but im diffing out really hardcore.. I got 7K in the center :)

I was just bliping the throttle, thinking about running 22t pinions.

Thicken up that center! Get the thickest you can get, a "locker" lube if you can. Oh, and more video:yes:

SnoopMaxx 01.06.2009 05:48 PM

Awesome.. I love when he says "That was coooaall " :intello:

Emaxx_Quebec 02.03.2009 11:17 AM

What is the best to use to be closest to stock maxx diff
  1. Raminator
  2. Aftershock
  3. LST
  4. LST2
  5. Mayhem
What the gear ratio of those diffs?
Thanks


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