ravin...coming in Thursday. :)

lutach...no test data that is public at this time.

Sower...you can limit the endpoints but be careful when doing that. The ESC is working much harder at partial throttle than at full. And I feel you on the 1550...

Joe,

One more question...what series of Neu is the motor? 1515 or 1512? or other? Sorry if I missed it in an earlier posting...

1515 series

The LST2 was used with the trasnmission right? Have you guys tested with any direct drive heavy truck? Sorry about all the questions, but it's been inside my head and it's slowly leaking out. A good test would be a heavy truck with a direct drive instead of the usual tranny. If in the future there is a 1/8 scale electric class, most people will use the conversions with direct drives. I have designed 3 chassis and I sent the drwaings to Mike and he said they will be doable. They will be big though and meant for the larger motors.

What date will the mmm be available.I cant wait!:whip:

We don't even have a 1521 motor, or a LST2. I said we are thinking about making a motor for heavier vehicles such as the LST2. We are testing with 3 different 1/8th buggies right now.

It's down below in the thread @ 1:22pm:

"we are still shooting for March, but are presently waiting for things that are out of our hands. This obviously affects the release date."

Is the 1515 that will be offered with the MMM be the same finned can or smooth can.Or is the motor can differant all together but with the same rotor.What are the dimensions of the MMM ESC unit.

Hey guys, quit bugging Joe. I am sure he has work to do, like getting the MMM ready to go :lol:

Man, I am so psyched for the MMM to finally come out. :yes: I'll be picking up the ESC only (possibly the motor as well, but I have another I can use at the moment) for my RC8 project. :intello:

Thanks Joe for the extra news on the MMM. It is a shame about the other motors though. This will only be at release date though won't it. I understand nothing is in concrete but the plan is more motor later isn't it? Like the 1521 you were talking about.

thanks for the update. was looking for the 1550kv model myself but I will be happy to just have the esc.

Well, by my calculations . . . if I had the 2200kv motor with a 10t pinion I would still have a 60 mph top speed and hit 50,000 rpms. :yes: So, what I've done is go out and buy a 1515 Neu 1100 kv motor. With a 15t pinion, that will be topped out at about 40 to 45 mph and 24,000 rpms.

I'll be getting the esc by itself now. :mdr:

I was looking forward to the lower kv motors as well. I don't want to race a 2200kv motor on 5s, and I don't want to use less than 5s batteries.

Patrick, you can use a 1700Kv with 5s and just use a slightly larger pinion gear to the same effect of a 2200Kv right?

Yeah, I use a 1700kv 1515 2.5D on 5s for racing, and I really like it. I was going to get the 1750kv or 1550kv castle motor for another car, but I haven't decided what I'll do now, because I don't want a 2200kv motor, and neu's get expensive when you buy more than one.

Yeah I was hoping for something lower kv as well... I wonder why they bailed on them? Maybe they just won't be an option with the initial release...

Is the 1750k/v going to available at the realease?

No...here it is straight from Joe at Castle.

Bummer, but its not the end of the world I suppose.

What I don't understand is.....
Yea you can get a wide range of speed out of the 2200 KV motor. But it requires that you buy the proper batteries, pinion etc..

If you already have batteries and pinions then you may want to buy a motor with a KV that matches your need. (3s guys want something totally different then 6s guys).

Why would Castle rather us buy new battery packs at 200.00 a peice rather then buy a new motor with proper KV from them.

Me thinks they bought stock in Lipo suppliers!!!!

Highflier

Yeah, that is an annoyance I must admit, and changing the voltage/gearing will result in a motor spinning way outside its optimum efficiency range, which for the is somewhere around 35,000rpms. The stock motor will be great on 4s, fast on 5s, but probably too much on 6s to stay cool during a long run/race/bash session. I dunno, but Im sure Castle had their reasons (price point to reach and such).

No point in buying the MMM if you only want to run 3S anyhow. A regular MM will handle that fine.

Guys, I'd quit complaining if I were you. I'd say we're all lucky to have a manufacturer actually producing such a system for us at the price point they've stated. There currently is no other system on the market that should perform this way for even 1 1/2 times the price. Also, with the ability to buy the ESC separate from the motor, you guys can buy any Neu you want to run with it.

I just don't see the point to complaining about it. There will always be new products being introduced to the market. If they don't fit your specific requirements, simply don't buy it...but please don't bitch about it.

I'm sure you didn't mean to be negative in your post, and I'm not attacking you highflier, but comments like this just erk me the wrong way:
They dont want you to go buy new battery packs, they want you to buy their speed controller, and a motor that suites your needs.

They will come out with different kv motors in a later day (Just like they did with the mamba max and mamba 25).
You DONT have to buy their 2200kv motor. It is just the first one they will sell.
They believe it to have the widest capability. and will release it first.

Joe and the boys at Castle are not happy about the motor situation either. They want more options just like we do. I have no idea why they can only do one... it makes no sense at all.


I don't want a 1515 size motor period... I would rather have a 1512 :)

Hopefully it won't take long to come out with more sizes and winds once the ball gets rolling.

BTW, don't expect anything in March... sounds to me like the real date is mid-April. Also, the ESCs aren't in production yet so don't look for and early release of them either. (before combos, motors...)

But... it's coming :nod:

:gasp: DONT EVER SAY THAT! Dont EVER say that again:neutral::neutral:
hehe

Gee... I'm shocked.:whistle:

What's up with that GD? Sounds like you know something CC isn't letting on to. Are you serious that the MMM probably won't be available until April? If so, how do you know that?

It is Feb 21st...it'd be a miracle if they could manufacture, QA, package, and distribute by the end of March...that only leaves about 37 days to get all that done. I am not saying that it is impossible...just very unlikely. Hope for the best...prepare for the worst.

They're getting the packaging produced right now (out of house)...for all we know, they could have a huge delivery of boxes and manuals for it arrive tomorrow. We know the controller is finished too...though beta testing is an unknown. Don't condemn them yet...after all the flak Castle have had for missing deadlines, I very much doubt that Joe would be saying March unless he thought they had a pretty good chance of meeting that deadline.

But then again...do you have some kind of inside scoop, GD?

Repeatedly eluding to the things that are "out of our control" is the tip that there is a possible slip on the horizon IMO. I do consumer product development project management for a living and that’s a sure fire bet that there is something (and all it takes is one little thing to delay it all) that has a high likely hood of slipping or has already slipped and they are in fire drill mode trying to right the problem and still pull off the March date.

Not saying that this is the case as I know nothing about what is actually happening, but that’s what it sounds like to me.


I hope they do pull off the March date as it would give me just enough time to get my truggy ready in time for the spring racing season. It starts April 13th and it would be nice to have the final setup, installed and tested for a week before the season starts, rather than trying to change it all over sometime in the middle. I have been holding off buying another speed controll anticpating the MMM, but its sounding like I might have to borrow a Quark from another truck and get it ready to go. Oh well I have 4-5 weeks before I have to make that call. Hopefully CC has some more definitive info by then.

Keep plugging Guys!!! Whenever it gets here I'll still be planning to get my hands on one as soon as its released! It sounds like it very close whether its march or April, at least its in the home stretch.


Is there some sort of Pre-Order waiting list we can get on?

One more question... Is the motor going to be a smooth can or a finned can? I'm personally hoping for the smooth can because it fits in more places.

I beg your pardon?!

I'd say it would be a smooth can too for that reason. Plus all their other motors are smooth can. You can always slap a heat sink on even though it wouldn't be as efficient.

Plus, a smooth can will be cheaper to produce and will follow the standard set by their 1/18 and 1/10 motors. I'll be suprised if it's a finned can.

It would just been better initially to make the ESC. I would've thought they completely tested the ESC, but just throwing them in 1/8 buggy and E-Maxx is not convincing me yet. I will wait until everyone is completely happy and used it with other motors (Larger Neu, Lehner, Plettenberg and Mega). I understand everyone is happy and we should not be bugging Joe, but it didn't make much sense of waiting for a motor to sell it as a combo. With that out of the way, the controller should've been out much sooner.

Well... can't comment on a source, lol... and it's POSSIBLE they can get it done during March. But I'm told they are waiting not only on motors to show up, but also on the power boards for the ESC to be done so they can start the assembly line.

Mid April is IMO a more accurate date, and I'd rather be surprised with an "early" release than sit around waiting as March comes and goes.

Sorry LOL

I do not have any experience with a true Neu motor, but from what I can understand the 1512 is a powerful motor, more-so than a xl feigao. So a 1515 must be quite impressive.

So, an 1/8 buggy with a 1515 2200kv motor on 6s lipo would be quite impressive, and I am sure that it would not run hot. A new emaxx with the same combo would also be very impressive.

I am personally looking forward to the system, and the 1515 motor. I have a few pairs of 2200 - 2500mah 5s lipos, so that will be my battery of choice. Plus my most of my chargers are 5s max! And I am sick of buying lipos!

I will get this combo for my savage and run it on 6s. Do you think it will get hot :lol:. Should be quick though.