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DRIFT_BUGGY 07.23.2008 11:43 PM

I forgot to mention that I cut out alittle bit on the body to get some air flow to the motor. The motor doesn't seem to get much air flow to it from where it is. There was also a new sticker put on the back of the body. It might of also helped with the cooling.

http://www.geocities.com/athowells_r...otor_scoop.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/athowells_r.../rcm_decal.jpg

I also required longer screws for the skid plate to go on properly. The standard screws are 8-32 x 1/2" Flat Head and that is the longest that Losi make. Associated make some 8-32 x 7/16" Flat Head screws which retail for $6 for a pack of 6 in Australia. That works out to be $1 each. I went down to my local fastener shop and ordered 50 x 8-32 x 3/4" flat head phillips stainless steel screws. 50 of them cost me $11. Minimum eftpos was $10 so I ended up ordering 50 of them. Doesn't hurt to have some spare.

http://www.geocities.com/athowells_r...rcm/screws.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/athowells_r...kid_plates.jpg

ffactory666 07.28.2008 06:32 AM

Nice conversion :yes:
Like the little cut out in the body for cooling , it's as if the body was designed like that for motor cooling .
Have you noticed much difference now with the body cut .

How has the 8ight been holding up , overall .

DRIFT_BUGGY 07.28.2008 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ffactory666 (Post 195549)
Nice conversion :yes:
Like the little cut out in the body for cooling , it's as if the body was designed like that for motor cooling .
Have you noticed much difference now with the body cut .

How has the 8ight been holding up , overall .

Have read of people complaining that it is a fragile buggy, they musn't know how to drive. :neutral: This buggy is great, this buggy has had as much abuse as my REVO and still no breakages

ffactory666 07.28.2008 10:05 PM

Iv'e never been brand loyal , some buggies are a little more fragile than others but on a whole most breakages happen from bad driving.

Good to hear it's holding up great :wink:

TDC57 07.29.2008 04:05 AM

My Buggy is the strongest thing I’ve owned.. Although my Revo is on 8s an my buggy is on 4 - 5s. I still think it takes a beating where my GorillaMaxx would brake..

Go 1/8 scale buggy!..

mxracer 08.01.2008 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 192117)
Well finally the rain went away and I managed to get down to my local track. Using the 13T pinion and changing from 3000 in front diff and changing 5000 in centre to 10 000 couldn't wait to see of the changes. At 10.32am I was going out of the pit lane and flying down the main straight. At 11.17am I was driving back into the pits as battery was starting to run slow. 45 MINUTES OF RUNTIME :party: :party: :party: I never had to turn off the battery once, just kept going and going. Temps were Motor - 160F, ESC 111F & Battery 108F. I checked the voltage of the battery with the multimeter and it was 16.45V. I charged up this battery about 3 - 3 1/2 weeks ago. Back to work tomorrow, so not going to be able to use it for another 5 days.

i have no idea how the hell you get runtimes like that , this is my setup
neu 1512 2.d/f
hyper st pro truggy
52/12 gearing
mamba max , 15v cutoff voltage
5s flight power 4900mah

everything is pretty close to the same as yours , yet i get about 9-12 mins runtime

i have a jammin cr pro buggy , i will try replacate your setup as close as possible , but i very very much doubt i will gain another 30 mins of runtime

HOW DO U DO IT ??

ffactory666 08.01.2008 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxracer (Post 196990)
i have no idea how the hell you get runtimes like that , this is my setup
neu 1512 2.d/f
hyper st pro truggy
52/12 gearing
mamba max , 15v cutoff voltage
5s flight power 4900mah

everything is pretty close to the same as yours , yet i get about 9-12 mins runtime

i have a jammin cr pro buggy , i will try replacate your setup as close as possible , but i very very much doubt i will gain another 30 mins of runtime

HOW DO U DO IT ??

You should be getting minimum 20 mins with the battery you are using.
Somehthing isn't right.
What temps are you getting ?
Your driveline might be binding some were causing drag and robbing you of run time .

Check your diffs , cvd's Centre front and rear ( especially the pins ) and bearings :wink:

mxracer 08.01.2008 05:51 AM

i have 2 brand new truggies , no binding , everything smooth as silk

got 7 x 4s flight power 4900 packs (so that rules out a dud pack)

1 truggy is MM 1515 1Y geared 13/52 motor temp 50deg C
other truggy MM 1512 2.5d geared 14/52 motor temp 70 deg C

both get 10 mins runtime

then i tried the 1512 2.5d on 5s with 12/52 and still 10 mins . with no extra speed and motor temp 70 deg C

ffactory666 08.01.2008 06:34 AM

Got me stumped on this one , maybe some of the experts can chime in on this . Might have to start up a new thread to get some answers :wink:

ilpufxit 08.01.2008 11:25 AM

Settings?
 
What are the settings on your MM? Is it the same ESC you're using in both vehicles? Set reverse power to 100% and see if that helps, I had a MM running backwards, set to 50% once and it took me a while to figure it out. I don't really understand the short runtimes though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxracer (Post 196993)
i have 2 brand new truggies , no binding , everything smooth as silk

got 7 x 4s flight power 4900 packs (so that rules out a dud pack)

1 truggy is MM 1515 1Y geared 13/52 motor temp 50deg C
other truggy MM 1512 2.5d geared 14/52 motor temp 70 deg C

both get 10 mins runtime

then i tried the 1512 2.5d on 5s with 12/52 and still 10 mins . with no extra speed and motor temp 70 deg C


mxracer 08.01.2008 11:33 AM

yes same esc settings.

forward / brake only no reverse
timing 5deg
punch control disabled .. < maybe that has something to do with it ?
start power medium
drag brake disabled
voltage cutoff (auto lipo for when 4s ) 15v for when used 5s

im so keen to get 30 min runtimes !
we have a private rc track of our own so we just bash/race lap after lap all day

tc3_racer_001 08.01.2008 09:06 PM

try timing = 0
that might help but i am also a bit confused... when i saw 45 minutes i thought it was impossible? i was hoping 15 minutes+ from my 4600mah a123 cells (which can be drawn down to about 5% (according to the charger) so perhaps its not going to be easy on a large track?

ReV:-O 08.05.2008 07:10 AM

Just curious as to whether the Muggy uses the same chassis as the 8ight-T? If it does, then technically this conversion kit should work for the muggy: http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...oducts_id=2870

Any thoughts?

jnev 08.05.2008 11:57 AM

The Muggy and 8ight-t have different chassis'.

kevin23 08.11.2008 11:08 PM

I run a 1512 2.5d in my buggy,on 5s with a 16v cutoff,running hard on my local track I get 20min's.low start power,50% punch control,lowest timing motor temps 160,mm 110,batt's come off 120 degrees F.thunder power 25c 5000mah.Also with the throttle endpoint turned down to 75% as the buggy is to fast for me on the track.

I tried it on 4s 25c 5000 tp pack,had to turn endpoint back up to 100%,cutoff to 12.5v again get 20min runtime same gearing for both 13-48.
I am also running this in an 8ight.


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