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tom255 06.04.2007 02:03 PM

I asked same thing from my local dealer and they told that for now they replaced allmost all faulty gears by free who came with that problem to our dealer. And i asked one guy who is driving XRay and who mentioned problems with gears before, for now he dont have any problems, so far so good.
I think no reason to worry, new XT8 come with properly hardened gears :D

jollyjumper 06.04.2007 02:42 PM

thanks dafni and tom255 :D:D:D

tino_ale 06.05.2007 03:33 AM

thanks for the replies. I'll spend some time looking for truggy videos on the internet.

So in terms of pure performances, the buggy will be first choice, but in terms of off-road capability and pleasure to drive (stability, nice jumps...) the Truggy might be better right?

In fact I'm pretty new to this truggy thing. A while ago I eliminated monster trucks because I thought they were too unstable and always on the roof. Weelies all the time and finally boring to drive. When I first saw these truggies, I didn't catch the difference and didn't get interrested into them... But now I realize they are completely different from monster trucks and seem to be great machines :) !

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Originally Posted by tom255
I am afraid you seen videos with monster trucks not truggy
Main differense between MT and Truggy that truggy have center diff when MT have full 50/50 4WD. Center diff make truck more stable and prevent wheelies.
I am highly recommend to you go to the track and look how real truggys perform and what you like more. Its different classes realy hard make parallels between them only chassis build is similar.
Personaly I like truggy more than buggy. Its handle similar but more stable, on bumpy track its more stable. Bigger wheels looks cooler and body is cool its looks like true car


Dafni 06.05.2007 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by tino_ale

So in terms of pure performances, the buggy will be first choice, but in terms of off-road capability and pleasure to drive (stability, nice jumps...) the Truggy might be better right?

Not necessarily. As for buggy over truggy in terms of performance, I heard many reports of racers who got the same (and sometimes faster) lap-times with their truggies as with their buggies.
And as for buggy over truggy in terms of jumping and fun, I have to say buggies are nice too. Most of them are very very tough, hard to kill, and fly nice and clean. Same goes for the truggies, of course, I just wanted to say that the buggies are good too.

Daf

tino_ale 06.05.2007 04:08 AM

Hum... you make me doubt!

Ok I understand what you say. But then again, for someone who has difficulties to decide between the two, what would be your advise? What do you think is the main difference between the two in terms of driving pleasure/fun experience? cost/maintanance/toughness? There must be some determining difference somehow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dafni
Not necessarily. As for buggy over truggy in terms of performance, I heard many reports of racers who got the same (and sometimes faster) lap-times with their truggies as with their buggies.
And as for buggy over truggy in terms of jumping and fun, I have to say buggies are nice too. Most of them are very very tough, hard to kill, and fly nice and clean. Same goes for the truggies, of course, I just wanted to say that the buggies are good too.

Daf


Dafni 06.05.2007 04:25 AM

Okay, the way I see it, the criteria you mentioned would break down like this:

driving pleasure/fun experience: both have their advantages, buggies will cut those extra sharp corners, but then again may seem too aggressive to some. And they are not so forgiving on rough and bumpy stuff as the truggs (pretty obvious: less ground clearance and all)
cost: I'd say a buggy and a truggy on the same quality level cost the same. Maybe it's worth mentioning that the buggies eat tires quick.
Maintenance: again, same for same quality level.
Toughness: again, pretty much the same. Altough the more compact geometry (shorter arms) would make me think the buggies can take a bit more. From my experience they are mean bashers, they can take a beating.

This is only my opinion and experience. I like them both, I would not want to miss my buggy, and I look forward to see the truggy thing growing here too. Most older die-hard buggy guys around here only smile at the "new thing"... but that's just because it's always hard to get new ideas into some people. Sometimes they don't even believe what their eyes see :005: Please ignore the personal rant :)

As for your decision, I think you will be happy with both in the end. Both classes are purely purpose built, with performance on nowadays off-road race tracks in mind.

Hope this helps a bit :)

Cheers
DAF

tino_ale 06.05.2007 09:51 AM

Yes it does help, thank you!

After looking at some vids on the internet, well I must say truggies looks as "race capable" and efficient on a track as buggies. I actually like the way they look, wider, I have this impression that they roll "smoother". The image I had of them was plain wrong.

I guess what I need is a Truggy :)

I have never had an Xray model, but using exclusively Hudy tools, I have absolutely no doubt about their quality. These tools are just amazing. And incredibly durable. I use my 2mm hew wrench intensively with my 1/10 touring electric, and so far I can't see any wear of the tip. It is still as sharp as on the first day! Hudy Spring steel rocks :017:

tom255 06.05.2007 11:33 AM

With XRay you cant go wrong, quality is realy good! Quality and Price balance is good not like Kyosho realy overpriced!
On video look how Truggy perform is not like in real. I am highly recommend to look those cars in real on track in race coindition before final decision.
And ofcourse spare parts availibility is important too. Its good if you have somewhere near Dealer or good source from internet with low shipping time.
Good luck

tom255 06.05.2007 04:00 PM

Heh I got some news today from my dealer :)
They called to me by self "What a service!" :D
They had some problems with shipping so now promised 100% that friday will be here and they have now all tracking numbers to track parcell.
OK lets wait.
I hope friday they will call with good news :)

tom255 06.11.2007 04:15 AM

Good news, today I got my XRay XT8
Some troubles with shipping it stuck somewhere and came to Estonia at sunday. Today morning dealer by self came on my door :) what a service. I sleeping and thought what a .... who is this?! and voilaa surprize! :D.
First impression what chassis is pretty narrow with plastic rock gurads looks like more like buggy chassis. Quality is superior as usualy on Xray.

Dafni 06.11.2007 07:42 AM

congrats!

will you convert it or keep it nitro??

tom255 06.11.2007 08:43 AM

I am racer not backyard basher and to be legal i need keep it nitro.
Honestly i wish convert it but rules is rules.
Once i tried to race with nitro guys with my BL LSP and I am kicked off :)
Over my BL LSP so much noise in our local forum so no chance to race with nitro 1/8 truggy class. Only training and some not official raceing.
Nobody wants white crow :)
But I hope soon somebody here convert it and i am realy wants to see it

Dafni 06.11.2007 09:26 AM

I have the same problem here. I like electric better, but if I want to race I need a nitro.

tino_ale 06.12.2007 10:15 AM

Hey Tom... Congrats! Maybe one of the first owners of this XT8!

Pics? Comments? We need some material here! :018:

tom255 06.12.2007 10:25 AM

Sure I post some pics here today!


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