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suicideneil 05.26.2008 01:07 PM

A couple months... not sure if I can wait that long, may have to pick up something cheap to tide me over.....

Buzzsaw46 05.26.2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 176740)
Sounds like good results. I just got an e-mail back from them, and within the next couple months they will be testing a 70mm long motor. Perfect for our monsters and truggies:yipi:

That is great news, I wish it was sooner but :party: It's just nice to have more than two or three brutaly expensive choices for large quality inrunners.


Jfruge, sounds like a good setup, did you feel like you needed any more power to keep up with the other buggies? or do you feel the 50mm motor is enough for a competitive (club level) buggy?

pb4ugo 05.26.2008 02:34 PM

Unfortunately the first two winds they offer (2200 and 1600 Kv) won't be of much use to me. They should be good for many of you though. Hopefully a 2000 Kv wind won't be far behind.

glassdoctor 05.26.2008 05:14 PM

They do have a 70mm coming and probably more kv choices too.

btw, I ran the 50mm 1300kv motor in the street yesterday. (6s and geared 15/46 in my kyosho buggy)

It ran nice, but my little torture test was too much for it, and I had to stop and let it cool cause it hit 200*

I'll have to do some more testing and try other gearing etc....

jfruge 05.26.2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw46 (Post 176775)
That is great news, I wish it was sooner but :party: It's just nice to have more than two or three brutaly expensive choices for large quality inrunners.


Jfruge, sounds like a good setup, did you feel like you needed any more power to keep up with the other buggies? or do you feel the 50mm motor is enough for a competitive (club level) buggy?

I think it will keep up with the club level buggys. I do need to gear up 1 to 2 teeth and get it set up better and run in that class to be sure.

The next race is in 2 weeks and will soon find out! That class is also runs a 20 minute main so I need to see if I can make it or if I need to come in for a battery swap.

Fun Fun

Buzzsaw46 05.26.2008 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassdoctor (Post 176816)
They do have a 70mm coming and probably more kv choices too.

btw, I ran the 50mm 1300kv motor in the street yesterday. (6s and geared 15/46 in my kyosho buggy)

It ran nice, but my little torture test was too much for it, and I had to stop and let it cool cause it hit 200*

I'll have to do some more testing and try other gearing etc....

Thats pretty tall gearing for a 50mm motor thats only spinning 27K.

You need to rethink when moving to a smaller motor, a 1515 might do fine that way but the little motor you have to let it spin fast and use gear reduction to replace the torque. Put that motor on 10s with a 9t pinion and see if it wont light your fire:yes:

Sounds good John, Thanks!

That new 36-70-2200v2 will be awesome, I think I'll hold off on the 36-60 and get myself a 70 when they come out, 2200kv will be nuts on 6s A123

Five-oh-joe 05.27.2008 12:00 AM

Those are going to be awfully powerful motors....:mdr:

lincpimp 05.27.2008 12:16 AM

Anyone opened up one of these motors yet? From what I can see it looks like a neu or a plett inside. I have to run my hyper8 with the 36/60/1500 some more and see how it does. I hope the quark 125 can keep up as I am running 6s. That puts me around 33k rpm max, a little lower than I like, but the motor is making plenty of power and not getting hot. I think I am running 14/46 gearing at the moment. Need to do a full test and a vid, whenever I can get some help!

glassdoctor 05.27.2008 12:52 AM

I know the gearing is a bit tall, but it does pull and accelerate very well, and there's only one way to find out what it can do. :)

I'm sure dropping about 2 teeth would be about right for general racing, etc. I'm curious to see how it will run on the track. I'm looking at the 36-60-2000 as a better motor, but others are saying the 50mm does ok, so I wanted to try one. I think the 6s and low kv will give it the best chance to work, but it will probably still take a milder speed setup. I need to clock mine to see how fast it actually is...

This motor is spinning slightly more rpm than my 1509 4s setup

Buzzsaw46 05.27.2008 01:12 AM

Isn't the 1509 a slightly larger motor also?

Why not a 36-60-1300? The 36-50-2200 seems like it may have been a better first choice.

lutach 05.27.2008 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzzsaw46 (Post 176921)
That new 36-70-2200v2 will be awesome, I think I'll hold off on the 36-60 and get myself a 70 when they come out, 2200kv will be nuts on 6s A123

Are they really going to make a 70 version? I was going to et the 36-60-1500, but now I'll wait and see if the 70 will come out.

pb4ugo 05.27.2008 10:06 AM

Look at posts #200 & 203 :yipi:

lutach 05.27.2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 177036)
Look at posts #200 & 203 :yipi:

Thank you sir. I really didn't see that. The 1600 will be a perfect choice for me for my 6S applications.

glassdoctor 05.27.2008 11:11 AM

I got what was available at the time. And like I said... some swear that the 50mm is good for a buggy so that's why I got one.

Remember, I have only run it once, without changing gearing, and it was not on the track where I normally judge things.

I have always subscribed to the low kv and similar or taller gearing than stock (nitro) gearing. I don't plan to treat these motors any different... so I have a basis to compare.

I'm recommending to others that they run the 2200kv on 4s with a lower gearing, if they want the 50mm.

Right now the 60-2000 is the best bet, imo... and is very similar to what I have been running. I'm going to get one soon to test myself. The 2000kv on 4s has a very similar rpm as a 1300kv on 6s. That's another reason why I choose the 50-1300.

Anyway... I need to get to the track someday....

speed demon 05.28.2008 12:33 AM

I just got my 36-50-2200 in today. I like it better then the mega I had. Granted they both had different Kv(mega 3500) but the medusa seemed to draw less amps and ran incredible cool(never even broke 100 on 4S). I will know thursday whether it is faster then the mega. All around it just seems smoother and less touchy. Sorry no proof just my opinion.

Cain 05.28.2008 06:20 PM

What are you running it in?

Is the 50mm version good for say an emaxx or should I do the 60mm?

speed demon 05.28.2008 07:36 PM

Running it in a rustler. As for your question I'm keeping my mouth shut...there are a butt load more qualified guys on here to answer that.

Dewmerz 05.28.2008 09:16 PM

I'm short one motor right now since I've been waiting 2 months for a 1515/1Y to come into my LHS. I just ordered a 36x50 2200 v2. Hopefully it is in stock and ships out soon so I can finally get my buggy running.

It may have already been answered but how does this run on the Mamba Max with latest firmware being a 4-pole motor? Is it good enough to get by until the MMM's become stable and readily available?

highflier 05.28.2008 10:09 PM

I am not sure I am qualified to answer the question.. But I have a e-maxx and run 6s A123's I selected the 36-60 1600 V2. Although I really wanted to get the 2000KV motor but others had advised me out of that choice.

Highflier

glassdoctor 05.28.2008 10:40 PM

The Neu motors run pretty well now with both MM and MMM

Emaxx has more gear reduction in the tranny than the 1/8 vehicles.. so that's why people tend to run higher kv with it. But it's all about the final drive ratio/roll out. Lock it in second or run a big pinion, etc....

Cain, depending on what you do with the truck, a 50mm might work. But I'm thinking the 60mm is a much better choice in most cases.

I don't think we really have a grasp on these motors yet... we need more people to run and report. :)

Buzzsaw46 05.29.2008 03:43 AM

Yes the 50mm will power an E-maxx, very well in fact but I do like my 60mm a bit better. I am now thinking about getting a 70-75mm just to know what each is like.

If you do decide to go with a 50mm get a higher Kv than is normal, and gear down. Let the motor spin and the gears produce the torque.

sleebus.jones 05.29.2008 08:55 AM

I'm seriously considering getting one of these. I'm currently running a 10XL, so the 36-60-1600v2 would be pretty much a direct replacement. Of course, they are backordered. The 4 pole and efficiency are what attract me to it, and the price isn't half bad either. I'd love to run one of the castle neu's, but at 2200Kv, that's just spinning too fast for a 6S setup. I'd prefer my rides not to sound like a dentist's drill whizzing by.

I'm wondering if the 1500kv setup woudn't be a bad one? Gearing up shouldn't be a problem. Max rpm would be around 29,000 rpm. Seems kinda on the low side, but I guess being a 4 pole that isn't that low?

Cain 05.29.2008 09:20 AM

There is a nice speed chart out there. I used that to determine what pinion I should get for my Emaxx and the Neu 1512 2.5D . The vehicle last night during my initial tests was insanely fast. If the Mamba Monster can stay together, got a real winner here.

I wil most likely go with a 60mm version for sure then of a Medusa when they come in stock.

highflier 05.29.2008 10:44 AM

They are taking orders I had a e-mail straight from Medusa saying they were coming in and to order now.

I ordered the 36-60 1600 V2
highflier

pb4ugo 05.29.2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleebus.jones (Post 177563)
I'm seriously considering getting one of these. I'm currently running a 10XL, so the 36-60-1600v2 would be pretty much a direct replacement. Of course, they are backordered. The 4 pole and efficiency are what attract me to it, and the price isn't half bad either. I'd love to run one of the castle neu's, but at 2200Kv, that's just spinning too fast for a 6S setup. I'd prefer my rides not to sound like a dentist's drill whizzing by.

I'm wondering if the 1500kv setup woudn't be a bad one? Gearing up shouldn't be a problem. Max rpm would be around 29,000 rpm. Seems kinda on the low side, but I guess being a 4 pole that isn't that low?

The XL is 74 mm though. That's why I got excited at the news of a 70 mm Medusa coming. A quality affordable alternative.

lutach 05.29.2008 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 177597)
The XL is 74 mm though. That's why I got excited at the news of a 70 mm Medusa coming. A quality affordable alternative.

I'll be waiting for the 70mm as well. It will fit right in my MBX5T.

Dewmerz 05.29.2008 03:40 PM

I just received a email letting me know the 036-050-2200V2-5 is backordered and won't ship for 3 weeks. Looks like my buggy won't get it's first run for a while longer now.

The 70mm version might be a good option for my Savage X when it becomes available. The 8XL I'm running now doesn't feel strong enough compared to the same motor in my truggy.

sleebus.jones 05.29.2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 177597)
The XL is 74 mm though. That's why I got excited at the news of a 70 mm Medusa coming. A quality affordable alternative.

Yeah, that is true. 60mm would probably be pretty good in a buggy, although I know they like torque too.

Hell, everything likes torque! :yipi:

Cain 06.04.2008 11:37 AM

Looking forward to getting one of these 60mm Medusas. the Neu 2.5D 1512 in my Emaxx ran great, loads of power. The Mamba Monster is one heck of an ESC if it stays together. So far so good. Only let down was the stock traxxas servos, not how they worked mind you, the fact that I popped the stock gears.

Anyway, the 2.5D/F motor I ran with the fins didn't let me get as good of a gearing range as I wanted. Motor ran up to 180F but electronics cool. was however never opening it up, maybe ran half throttle the whole time and no venting. I am thinking the Medusa should be a great choice here for its no fins to give me better gearing range. And leave the Neu for my RC8.

Thoughts?

jfruge 06.10.2008 07:10 AM

I had another great saturday race night with my Medusa powered 8ight. I love this little motor. After a 30 minute main the motor was about 140F. @ this point I plan to get a 2nd one for my backup car :mdr: I got the version with the bonded heat sink and hit it with my belt sander in the area by the center diff..

bustitup 06.10.2008 11:26 AM

well after reading all this and seeing that the 36-60-2000v2 and 1600v2 are available now ...i'm going to order one for my emaxx, mm,bec, 2s2p 8000mah

which one should I get?...I saw no definitive answer here

I'm guessing the 2000v2? and will it perform well on 6s also?

Cain 06.10.2008 12:21 PM

Not sure where you seeing the 2000kv V2 is available now (showing backordered).

I would say on 4S setup, I would go with the 2000Kv V2. That is what I am looking at.

killermmn 06.10.2008 12:45 PM

when the 70mm will be realese??

bustitup 06.10.2008 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cain (Post 180983)
Not sure where you seeing the 2000kv V2 is available now (showing backordered).

I would say on 4S setup, I would go with the 2000Kv V2. That is what I am looking at.


well it was listed in stock at impakt so I ordered it and now they are out of stock...but I see the 36-60-1600v2 is still in stock

suicideneil 06.10.2008 01:16 PM

1600 should be great for 6s, to give same topspeed as the 2000 on 4s. 2000 on 6s will be rather fun to see...

bustitup 06.10.2008 01:43 PM

my thoughts also........I called impakt just make sure my order was accualy in stock.....he told me I got the last 36-60-2000 and that it would ship today.......its going in my 3906 with mm and bec.......I asked what gearing he recommended on 4's....he said stock 18/68 should produce a fast cool truck

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 180996)
1600 should be great for 6s, to give same topspeed as the 2000 on 4s. 2000 on 6s will be rather fun to see...


TexasSP 06.10.2008 09:34 PM

I just put the 60mm 1500 kv motor in my maxx and did some preliminary tests inside. This thing has a ton of torque. I was running a 600xl on 6s and wanted to try the medusa. I will try to do a little driving outside tonight but if not tomorrow.

lincpimp 06.10.2008 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 181136)
I just put the 60mm 1500 kv motor in my maxx and did some preliminary tests inside. This thing has a ton of torque. I was running a 600xl on 6s and wanted to try the medusa. I will try to do a little driving outside tonight but if not tomorrow.

I thought that the medusa was much better than the align motor. Really woke up my hyper8, but it did smoke the quark 65! Not sure if it was the motor's fault though.

Cain 06.10.2008 11:07 PM

Contacted Medusa and my order should be shipping in two weeks.

TexasSP 06.10.2008 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 181165)
I thought that the medusa was much better than the align motor. Really woke up my hyper8, but it did smoke the quark 65! Not sure if it was the motor's fault though.

Yeah, a far cry better. I think I can gear the medusa up a little more than the align. My maxx is 10lbs rtr so I think the medusa will fair well. If the temps stay good on this I will be buying more from medusa.

Linc does your 600xl spin fairly freely by hand? The magnets in the medusa feel so much stronger than the align.


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