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rhylsadar 10.21.2007 06:06 AM

hi
my concern is more like if the new tranny just bolts on a revo chassis.. :whistle:
bye
rhylsadar

Serum 10.21.2007 06:31 AM

which would be rather close by looking at the pictures.

Too bad there are no exploded views available on the traxxas site yet..

sikeston34m 10.21.2007 07:19 AM

Hi Serum

The exploded views are on this page

http://www.traxxas.com/products/elec...3905_views.htm

check em out, looks pretty interesting to me. :yes:

Serum 10.21.2007 07:50 AM

Thanks!

i was searching for them, but i kept landing in their commercial.. :)

looking at them right now.

Serum 10.21.2007 07:59 AM

this is something!

he pictures where not deceiving;

http://www.traxxas.com/products/elec...-maxx_rear.pdf

Check out that diffs.

sikeston34m 10.21.2007 08:17 AM

@Serum

What's your opinion of the overall makeup?

I like the transmission. I'm pretty excited about that. I haven't been able to find any info on the 2 speed "kit" that they mentioned yet.

The diffs look alot beefier. I hope they used a tough cup, and improved the spider gears. On the old version, One of the weakest points were the 2mm screws that held the ring gear to the cup. If I'm reading that right, these are 2.5mm screws

suicideneil 10.21.2007 09:05 AM

2.5mm? Thats just plain odd. Still, should be easy to upgrade it to 3mm if required. It would also be nice if GorillaMaxx did come out with a revised chassis- new rails & front upper plate I imagine to accomodate the tranny and servos, then stick the esc & rx down the rear end (oh-er mrs).

Haldir 10.21.2007 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhylsadar (Post 124146)
hi
my concern is more like if the new tranny just bolts on a revo chassis.. :whistle:
bye
rhylsadar

I don't think so, but I am sure the chassis can be modified to accomodate one.:yipi:

hyperasus 10.21.2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 124144)
I asked at the show if the new tranny would bolt into the old chassis and they said that it would not. So its not likely that it will fit the gmaxx chassis either. I'm sure that Gmaxx will update the rails to fit the new tranny eventually though.


OK then gorilla needs to get on this right away before I have to throw my G3R's n the closet and buy a couple of these new E-Maxx's. Really need a tranny worth wizzing on for both of my G3R's.

suicideneil 10.21.2007 03:58 PM

Theres nothing wrong with the stock Emaxx tranny, once you've stuck an RCM steel idler in there & replaced the weak roll pin holding 1st gear onto the input shaft. But, yes, I want a nice centrally mounted motor too. Damn Im fickle sometimes.....

hyperasus 10.21.2007 04:24 PM

I could care less about the centrally mounted motor. And the problem with the stock Emaxx tranny is that it doesn't have a real slipper. As far as I am concerned if it doesn't have a Revo type slipper then its useless. In other words, stock Emaxx tranny = useless worthless piece of crap.

sikeston34m 10.21.2007 04:33 PM

The upgraded "original" E maxx tranny has disappointing limitations.

I run an upgraded input shaft, and RCM steel idlers. The next weakest points are the plastic output gears and the drive dog.

On different occasions, I've stripped each of the lower output gears. I've broken the teeth off the drive dog that engage with the output gears. I've also stripped out the hole in the drive dog where it rides on the output shaft.

The plastic gear teeth are weak. It's not that hard to shear them off.

I don't think the plastic can take the heat from being spun so fast. The material gets soft when you push it the hardest.

I even tried talking to a machine shop about getting steel ones made. The originals are metric, hard to identify and hard to acquire gear stock for. So I ran into a dead end on that venture.

I'm VERY excited about a transmission that is 2 1/2 times stronger than stock. The stock one isn't bad, but it comes apart when you exceed 50 - 55mph or so.

I'm DEFINATELY looking forward to putting this new transmission to the test.:yes:

BrianG 10.21.2007 04:45 PM

It's too bad that the tranny couldn't be sealed so that you can run some thin fluid in there to help with the heat.

What about venting the tranny case? Cut some holes and then glue in some metal screen (like in a screen door) to keep debris out, but get some airflow? Either that, or simply run a center diff instead of a tranny...

sikeston34m 10.21.2007 04:52 PM

I've had some pretty good luck in sealing the tranny. That's another mod I always do.

I use silicone on the mating surfaces during assembly, then use rubber sealed bearings on the output shafts.

I haven't experimented with different vicosities on the lube, but I use Lucas oil stabilizer. I think maybe it's a little thick, but seems to work good for gear oil.

I don't think I want to vent. Dust and abrasive material is the enemy of gears and bearings.

Before the new E Maxx info was released, I was pondering a FLM case to dissapate heat and all steel gears. I think I'll just start with the new E maxx instead.:yes:

JThiessen 10.21.2007 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperasus (Post 124225)
OK then gorilla needs to get on this right away before I have to throw my G3R's n the closet and buy a couple of these new E-Maxx's. Really need a tranny worth wizzing on for both of my G3R's.

Shouldnt be too tough to figure out how to get one in there. Look at all the much more complicated things that have been figured out on here.

suicideneil 10.21.2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyperasus (Post 124251)
I could care less about the centrally mounted motor. And the problem with the stock Emaxx tranny is that it doesn't have a real slipper. As far as I am concerned if it doesn't have a Revo type slipper then its useless. In other words, stock Emaxx tranny = useless worthless piece of crap.

:oh: Fair enough. I assume that the new Revo-type slipper can actually take Revo spurs though - MOD1 pitch- , judging by the design of the slipper pads & the screws etc.

Getter Robo 10.21.2007 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 124255)
The upgraded "original" E maxx tranny has disappointing limitations.

I run an upgraded input shaft, and RCM steel idlers. The next weakest points are the plastic output gears and the drive dog.

On different occasions, I've stripped each of the lower output gears. I've broken the teeth off the drive dog that engage with the output gears. I've also stripped out the hole in the drive dog where it rides on the output shaft.

The plastic gear teeth are weak. It's not that hard to shear them off.

I don't think the plastic can take the heat from being spun so fast. The material gets soft when you push it the hardest.

I even tried talking to a machine shop about getting steel ones made. The originals are metric, hard to identify and hard to acquire gear stock for. So I ran into a dead end on that venture.

I'm VERY excited about a transmission that is 2 1/2 times stronger than stock. The stock one isn't bad, but it comes apart when you exceed 50 - 55mph or so.

I'm DEFINATELY looking forward to putting this new transmission to the test.:yes:

I've been using these Ebay gears in my E-LST since the Tranny was in an E-Maxx without any big signs of wear. Unfortunately, that ebay guy never wanted to tell where he got them or which machining company he asked to make them.

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5...0621ra5.th.jpg

But maybe I shouldn't advertise them so much since I've never went over 50mph (40 at most)

sikeston34m 10.21.2007 05:34 PM

Are those the ones that are advertised as Titanium?

I've asked a few questions of the guy selling them with no response. That tends to steer me away if they won't communicate. IF it's the same guy.

BrianG 10.21.2007 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 124257)
I don't think I want to vent. Dust and abrasive material is the enemy of gears and bearings.

I can understand that, but people use exposed center diffs all the time with rare issues. As long as the bottom is vented to let any small debris fall out, I don't see where it would be a problem.

coolhandcountry 10.21.2007 08:01 PM

It looks as if the trans may have same mounting style as a revo trans.

squeeforever 10.21.2007 09:16 PM

Why not look into the gears from 4wdrc.com?

suicideneil 10.22.2007 10:30 AM

These ones
Says they are 6061, but little else really. Still, anythings better than brittle plastic, probably.

sikeston34m 10.23.2007 12:40 AM

I just noticed Tower has redone their list price. $369.99

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=LXTJR4**&P=SM

gixxer 10.23.2007 01:11 AM

thats a lot more realistic then the $528.99 they had listed.

Finnster 10.23.2007 10:31 AM

In regards to the new diffs, what effect do you think that new center piece will have. Its looks like some sort of brace, but I'm wondering what it will do to the diff tuning. Ie is there any possibility that it will allow lighter diff fluid to be used to acheive the same amt of slip?

Big hope as the Revo center diff uses the same diff cup. Anything to add some tunability to that diff (when 500K even gets thin...:no: )

skellyo 10.23.2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 124589)
I just noticed Tower has redone their list price. $369.99

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...=LXTJR4**&P=SM

It's all your fault! If you hadn't posted that they updated the price, I wouldn't have pre-ordered one of them this AM. :intello:

rchippie 10.23.2007 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 124621)
It's all your fault! If you hadn't posted that they updated the price, I wouldn't have pre-ordered one of them this AM. :intello:

Sean who are you kidding ? You were going to buy one any ways :lol:

skellyo 10.23.2007 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 124632)
Sean who are you kidding ? You were going to buy one any ways :lol:

Shhh, he didn't know that. :wink:

rchippie 10.23.2007 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 124639)
Shhh, he didn't know that. :wink:


:lol:

BlackedOutREVO 10.23.2007 06:24 PM

Sean you suck man!

You had the VXL's like right when they came out, now you have the new maxx on order....Sheesh

sikeston34m 10.24.2007 05:44 PM

E maxx : Soon to be released Brushless Version?
 
I was down at my LHS today inquiring when/if he was going to get any of the new E maxx in stock. The guy there informed me that he got an email from Traxxas, and they said there was going to be a brushless version released around December the 30th. I don't know if this is valid or not, because when I questioned him about the system they were going to put on it, he got the stutters.

BUT, they keep talking "Brushless Ready Platform". Could it be?

Surely a single VXL system isn't enough and two systems is too expensive for the general public. Hmmmmmm...........thoughts guys?

electric 10.24.2007 05:57 PM

what about novak thoght traxxas and novak were close companys so it might be a HV maxx or castle creations BL motor

lutach 10.24.2007 08:37 PM

Brushless E-Maxx will be available in December.

BlackedOutREVO 10.24.2007 09:23 PM

Dual VXL's

Would you guys believe that? Or a single BL system?

Dual just sounds cool, but dumb at the same time...... I think I will stick with the MMM set up

jnev 10.24.2007 10:01 PM

I am sure Novak and Traxxas don't work together anymore. Which is why Traxxas now have there own 1/10 BL system (VXL), and there own monster truck ESC (EVX2).

I think the new BL system from Traxxas will have a single motor because of the way they designed the motor mount on the new E-Maxx, where the motor will be in the center of the chassis.

December 30th...? I can't wait!! I just hope its waterproof like this one, and I'll be all over it. :lol:

rhylsadar 10.25.2007 04:03 AM

hi

the guy from maxamp said in the rcu that this twin vxl e maxx should be out in december. he also said that trx have connected the two esc so that they run synchron. it will be interesting to see how they have done that.

bye
rhylsadar

tashpop 10.25.2007 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 124912)
I was down at my LHS today inquiring when/if he was going to get any of the new E maxx in stock. The guy there informed me that he got an email from Traxxas, and they said there was going to be a brushless version released around December the 30th. I don't know if this is valid or not, because when I questioned him about the system they were going to put on it, he got the stutters.

BUT, they keep talking "Brushless Ready Platform". Could it be?

Surely a single VXL system isn't enough and two systems is too expensive for the general public. Hmmmmmm...........thoughts guys?

i didn't get a time frame, but my lhs guy said the same along with a brushless jato too then followed by the 4tec. i argued(sp?) with him about the jato telling him it makes no since to put that out, much less before a brushless onroad, but he swore by it. i still don't know if i can believe him though.

skellyo 10.25.2007 09:51 AM

To clear things up a little...posted by Zinno, a traxxas employee, on the traxxas forum:

"Gentlemen, I'm not sure where these rumors have started, but there will not be a V-Twin E-Maxx in December.

The reason we brought the V-Twin Concept truck to the show was to guage interest and show hobbyists what could be possible. What we had said is that if there was overwhelming demand, we may take the truck into production. This should not be confused with us saying "The truck will be here in December" which seems to be thought on the forums.

What we are saying however, is that the new 3905 E-Maxx will be available in time for Christmas around the beginning of December, so keep your orders in place- there may not be many to go around."

Take it as you will, but I tend to believe a traxxas employee versus anyone's LHS salesguy.

What's_nitro? 10.25.2007 07:22 PM

I would guess a 550 size single motor setup where it's an RTR. Probably the equivalent of an 8XL. Hopefully they go with a 4s-capable controller; 3s and a 6XL equivalent would get kinda hot, 3s and a 9XL would be kinda slow...

coolhandcountry 10.25.2007 07:44 PM

More then likely. No matter what system they put in there. It will most likely get changed out for something different. People don't want to have the same thing as the next for want to be better.


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