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suicideneil 04.19.2008 03:01 PM

What are you having done to the Jazz40?

lutach 04.19.2008 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 164474)
What are you having done to the Jazz40?

I'll be addind a new MOSFET to it. It is the same SO8 footprint, but packs a punch for such a little guy. I have also designed a new capacitor bank for ESC, that should be good as well. I will wait though to see if all the components will get here. The factory told me 14 weeks lead time for the FETs.

suicideneil 04.19.2008 03:18 PM

So, higher amp and/or voltage handling?

lutach 04.19.2008 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 164481)
So, higher amp and/or voltage handling?

Higher AMP for sure. I asked the factory for a few other models and if they send them to me I'll be happy.

GriffinRU 04.20.2008 04:36 PM

I do not know guys, but whoever wrote this firmware was really up for something...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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I was unable to sync Jammin's ESC to anything at all, just blinking LED no beeps no nothing, but I do have brakes :)<o:p></o:p>
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Opened unit number 2 and it beeps, spins and does whatever it wants but none of what I expecting to see...<o:p></o:p>
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Is it possible to set it all? I ditched everything and start playing with Traxxas transmitter (what can be simpler), trying to reverse channel, 30/70, 50/50 splits it just doesn't make sense. I guess I will try next weekend, what a bummer.:diablo:
http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...ntry&id=159805
http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...ntry&id=159804
http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...ntry&id=159803

lutach 04.20.2008 05:06 PM

Maybe that brain board is for the aircraft controller. I know some of the car controllers found in the forum and the one I have, the brain board is red in color and the aircraft one is green and you can see them in the pictures I posted. Do you have the program box? You can also try and calibrate the controller. Try one of the following:

1. --no need to set up Throttle itinerary ---- startup process

pull throttle into the lowest position -- → ESC power connecting → Detect and get throttle signal one beep tone "beep" → 3 seconds delay → detected throttle lowest position → one beep tone "beep" again → can start throttle Moved.( start flying). this step total beep twice . there had light on ESC when each beep tone .


If not detected throttle signal, "beep, beep and beep ... " continued beep tones are emitted.

If the battery voltage exceeds voltage, "BEEP, BEEP, BEEP ." continued beep tones are emitted. the beep tone

pause for a bit longer,Under such circumstances, ESC refused to start motor.

2.need to set up Throttle itinerary ---- startup process


pull throttle to the highest position -- → ESC power connecting → Detect and get throttle signal one beep tone "beep" → detected maximum throttle position, "beep" tone is emitted (one beep tone) → then pull to the lowest throttle position → 3 seconds of delay → "beep" tone is emitted once, Detected the lowest throttle position → can start lifting the throttle. three beep tone is emitted .

Note : This method set up the throttle itinerary is not saved. throttle itinerary can be set up and saved permanently by our programm card.

lutach 04.20.2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GriffinRU (Post 164719)
I do not know guys, but whoever wrote this firmware was really up for something...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
I was unable to sync Sammus's ESC to anything at all, just blinking LED no beeps no nothing, but I do have brakes :)<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Opened unit number 2 and it beeps, spins and does whatever it wants but none of what I expecting to see...<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Is it possible to set it all? I ditched everything and start playing with Traxxas transmitter (what can be simpler), trying to reverse channel, 30/70, 50/50 splits it just doesn't make sense. I guess I will try next weekend, what a bummer.:diablo:
http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...ntry&id=159805
http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...ntry&id=159804
http://forum.rcdesign.ru/index.php?a...ntry&id=159803

BTW your powerboard looks awesome. I can't wait to see you get everything sorted out. Have you thought about changing the FET drive for a more powerfull one. Maybe the MOSFET you are using might not be able to switch fast enough. I hope I'm right in one of those :lol:.

GriffinRU 04.25.2008 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 164724)
BTW your powerboard looks awesome. I can't wait to see you get everything sorted out. Have you thought about changing the FET drive for a more powerfull one. Maybe the MOSFET you are using might not be able to switch fast enough. I hope I'm right in one of those :lol:.

Thank You,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Finally, with your help, I have something under control. Still need to be armed every time you power it Up but I can live with that for now...<o:p></o:p>
Now back to Frankenstein, updates will follow...

lutach 04.25.2008 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffinRU (Post 166202)
Thank You,<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Finally, with your help, I have something under control. Still need to be armed every time you power it Up but I can live with that for now...<o:p></o:p>
Now back to Frankenstein, updates will follow...

I feel honored. I have to thank you for all the inputs you have given all of us here. So basically you have your awesome controller now? I want one:lol:. I'm jealous.

GriffinRU 04.26.2008 04:32 PM

I am not happy with that ESC in general...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Is it operational? Yes and kind of no, I do not like how it works.<o:p></o:p>
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Luciano what you would like to do with that "cheap" (not really) ESC?<o:p></o:p>
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No comparison to MM neither in price, quality or features. I even put BK on top of it not even mentioning schulze.

Anyone would like to have this combo can shoot me PM, I have spare one.

lutach 04.26.2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffinRU (Post 166626)
I am not happy with that ESC in general...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
Is it operational? Yes and kind of no, I do not like how it works.<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
Luciano what you would like to do with that "cheap" (not really) ESC?<o:p></o:p>
<o:p></o:p>
No comparison to MM neither in price, quality or features. I even put BK on top of it not even mentioning schulze.

Anyone would like to have this combo can shoot me PM, I have spare one.

The ones that I sent you? Or the ones that you have that I was going to send you?

GriffinRU 04.26.2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 166628)
The ones that I sent you? Or the ones that you have that I was going to send you?

No, this $85 ESC from e-bay with motor and programming card.

The one which you sent me for MCU transplantation is still in progress. And the ones which you are going to send me I haven't seen yet, unless there are from the same family...

lutach 04.26.2008 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffinRU (Post 166629)
No, this $85 ESC from e-bay with motor and programming card.

The one which you sent me for MCU transplantation is still in progress. And the ones which you are going to send me I haven't seen yet, unless there are from the same family...

I do have that same $85 one, but the brain board on the one I have is different. I think the brain board on yours is the plane one and you can see them both in some previous pictures. I was having the same issues you are having when I only had the plane controller. Now I'm not sure as well. I could give a crack at it and swap the brain boards myself and if it works out, I'll send it to you to see if you can add an extra board from a 50A controller I have (Same as the 100A, but with one power board). The start up procedure in the $85 controller is the same as my Actronic 120 and it's funny as they say it's to ensure maximum throttle and brake.

suicideneil 05.03.2008 11:11 AM

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/100A-ESC-Brush...QQcmdZViewItem

Another contender....

lutach 05.03.2008 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 168895)

I contacted the place that makes those. I think you can also check Danlions, they have a car controller as well as those HV100 and HV200 I posted pictures of. I'm still trying to find where they get them from. All those controllers are sold as a kit to them and all they do is add the components they like.

suicideneil 06.01.2008 09:03 PM

Another contender enters the ring...

http://www.afterbuy.de/afterbuy/shop...duktid=7826389

This one has a cool little programming box as an optional extra. There are also OPTO version with PC programming, but Im not certain they have brakes, just forwards & reverse (odd...). The site is in german, so I did some translating via Babelfish:

Quote:

Overdrive Racing Brushless automatic controller Rocket XC 100A Rocket XC 100A - for car and airplane The phantom & Rocket XC Brushless series of Overdrive Racing makes the entrance possible into the Brushless world to an unbeatable price performance ratio.

Description of article Rocket XC 100A:

Brushless automatic controller of the top class from the Rocket XC series with overheating & Low-voltage protection.
Driving option: Only forward/forwardbackwards.
Different starting options of gentle starting on loose underground up to the power start with much Gripp.
Different brake functions of more easily ABS brake to hard Vollbremsung up to the stop. Akkuschutz by low-voltage option, in this option can select you of 0,0 - 49.9 V whether the automatic controller switches or the achievement off reduced.
Adjustable middle gas range of 0-29%.
In 3 stages adjustable timing.
PWM frequency: 13KHz and 8KHz.
Adjustable automatic controller speed (constant speed) only in the switchable flying operation.
Attitude gas relationship for forward and backwards.
Type of model: RC car or flight Programmable by remote control or that particularly for it developed electronic program box with LCD display.

(Program box is not contained in the scope of supply) We recommend very easy and fast programming by program box. (You find the program box in our shop) Also for flight models applicably.
Heres the OPTO version, with a screen shot of the programming interface:
http://www.afterbuy.de/afterbuy/shop...duktid=8106755

lutach 06.01.2008 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 178476)
Another contender enters the ring...

http://www.afterbuy.de/afterbuy/shop...duktid=7826389

This one has a cool little programming box as an optional extra. There are also OPTO version with PC programming, but Im not certain they have brakes, just forwards & reverse (odd...). The site is in german, so I did some translating via Babelfish:



Heres the OPTO version, with a screen shot of the programming interface:
http://www.afterbuy.de/afterbuy/shop...duktid=8106755

I actually contacted the manufacturer of those and they will make a 6S and a 10S for me to try out and see if it'll work with different types of motors. They should be ready soon as I was told it should take at least a month.

suicideneil 06.02.2008 10:51 AM

Damn it man, are there any esc manufacturers you havent contacted? :lol:

I like the programming box and PC programming options alot, and the car software seems pretty sound, just going by the description. Only thing you can never tell is how good/ reliable the hardware is- I guess you will find out soon enough...

lutach 06.02.2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 178572)
Damn it man, are there any esc manufacturers you havent contacted? :lol:

I like the programming box and PC programming options alot, and the car software seems pretty sound, just going by the description. Only thing you can never tell is how good/ reliable the hardware is- I guess you will find out soon enough...

I have to contact any manufacturer that uses electronic components to keep my daughter happy :lol:. Here is what you can do for us for the time being :lol:. Get this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/100A-ESC-Brushle...QQcmdZViewItem :lol:, it will be cheaper then the one you found even though it'll come from Canada. Try it out and let me know how it goes. I will also wait to see what the manufacturer will send me and they seem legit as I asked a few questions and all the answers were good.

suicideneil 06.02.2008 11:54 AM

Haha, I am half tempted by that esc, especially at that price too, but it is only good for 5s lipo.. kinda would like it to be 6s for certain and then it would be a good choice. I wanna see what the RX8 comes out like, or if Novak hurry up with the 6s sensored models (just need proper big sensored motors, no-one makes them anymore for MTs...).

asheck 06.02.2008 01:29 PM

.So has anyone on here tested that 1 yet?I've been thinking of trying it,but can't decide.

suicideneil 06.27.2008 07:19 PM

http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=370041594514

Found by a traxxas forum member, would you believe...

GriffinRU 06.27.2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 186136)
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=370041594514

Found by a traxxas forum member, would you believe...

I like the features list, especially line #6
Quote:

"6. Low-Dropout Regulators used for the IC to provide current for BEC. (1A, 2A, 3A)"
Very important parameter when you dropping from Battery Voltage (5S ~25V) down to BEC Voltage :lol:

P.S. How cheap it can get?
Another cool place...
6mm shaft KB46 not 36 motors

timaneli 06.29.2008 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 186136)
http://global.ebay.com/gbh/viItem?ItemId=370041594514

Found by a traxxas forum member, would you believe...

yes i believe neil!!
was me who found it!!!:intello:

let´s see what people around here think of it!!

regards

lutach 06.29.2008 12:12 PM

You guys know if you to to the website it's even cheaper. I bought a couple controllers from them already, but they were the small airplane ones and I tought they were the one with the car software (I saw the program box and it said for car, but it wasn't). Here is the link: http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet...ial-**-/Detail.

sleebus.jones 06.29.2008 02:08 PM

The seller says they are in Hacienda Heights, California. I'm about 30 miles from there currently. A field trip might be in order. :)

Edit: Lutach, I see you had a problem setting it to car mode? Did you see this here:

http://www.xmseller.com/escprogrammcardmenu/

Looks like it's supposed be be usable for car mode there. I might give them a call and find out, since they're close. Apparently they're a hobby shop somewhere in LA, which I'll be close to for another 3 weeks or so.

asheck 06.29.2008 02:36 PM

That looks like the same 1 I linked to before,but the link doesn't work. Like this .http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...248309623&rd=1 I'd like to see if they'd work,I think you could put a big enough fan on it.

timaneli 06.29.2008 07:34 PM

i have bought my self one of this kit´s for my e-maxx...
if the motor will be enough for the truck i don´t know but it values de price because de esc and program card...

now my doubt is if the motor can handle my 2 cells 8.4v 4300 nimh´s connect in serie or paralel.....
or should i try first with one or buy a 4s lipo?since they say the motor handle 15v...

regards

lutach 06.29.2008 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleebus.jones (Post 186562)
The seller says they are in Hacienda Heights, California. I'm about 30 miles from there currently. A field trip might be in order. :)

Edit: Lutach, I see you had a problem setting it to car mode? Did you see this here:

http://www.xmseller.com/escprogrammcardmenu/

Looks like it's supposed be be usable for car mode there. I might give them a call and find out, since they're close. Apparently they're a hobby shop somewhere in LA, which I'll be close to for another 3 weeks or so.

Yes, but when I bought the little ESC, it wasn't the car AD model. I do have the big 120A one and it did kind of OK, but I don't like how we have to set up minimum throttle everytime we power up. I will try it again to see how it does with a 2 pole motor.

snellemin 06.29.2008 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timaneli (Post 186679)
now my doubt is if the motor can handle my 2 cells 8.4v 4300 nimh´s connect in serie or paralel.....
or should i try first with one or buy a 4s lipo?since they say the motor handle 15v...

regards

Sleebus bought the motor from me. He can tell you how it behaves in his buggy.

When I still had it, it ran fine on 4S A123. Tons of torque.

sleebus.jones 06.29.2008 10:19 PM

I run it on 3S A123 and it's a great motor. Lots of torque and very smooth. I like it.

timaneli 06.30.2008 04:31 AM

it´s a risk a will take to put this motor in a e-maxx but if i went the single vxl setup will take the same risk...
let´s see if it handle 14 cells nimh´s!!

thank´s for tell me about the motor!!
and the esc is handle good even with other motors??

regards

sleebus.jones 06.30.2008 09:02 AM

Yes, the mamba works fine with other motors.

ashunte23 06.30.2008 09:16 AM

Did anyone see the true rc one yet? Is this the ebay one?http://home.comcast.net/~truerc/esc/escNmotor.htm Scroll down to the very bottom.

TruckBasher 06.30.2008 09:39 AM

Hmmm that looks the same as the one being sold on EBAY.....too bad for the price program module was not included...or did I misread it?

lutach 06.30.2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TruckBasher (Post 186868)
Hmmm that looks the same as the one being sold on EBAY.....too bad for the price program module was not included...or did I misread it?

It is the exact same one. I still can't believe they are being sold for $100 withou the program box. If I started bringing this in, I would just sell it for $100 with the program box. Plus I would have full report with video and data to show how well it does with different motors, plus charge a very low s/h.

timaneli 06.30.2008 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 186870)
It is the exact same one. I still can't believe they are being sold for $100 withou the program box. If I started bringing this in, I would just sell it for $100 with the program box. Plus I would have full report with video and data to show how well it does with different motors, plus charge a very low s/h.

do you have this report with video´s on any webpage there i can see?
what other motors have you try on this esc and wich voltage or lipo´s do have use on them?

i am asking that because i have bought this 1:10 brushless combo that i wanto to run with 4s lipo´s!!

link of the kit:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10-Brushless...1.c0.m14.l1308

snellemin 06.30.2008 10:46 AM

I am only able to run low kv motors on mine. It handles 4s A123 well. I had to swap out 2 fets and replace the caps on mine, after I blew it running with a different motor. It has worked ever since though.

lutach 06.30.2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timaneli (Post 186883)
do you have this report with video´s on any webpage there i can see?
what other motors have you try on this esc and wich voltage or lipo´s do have use on them?

i am asking that because i have bought this 1:10 brushless combo that i wanto to run with 4s lipo´s!!

link of the kit:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-10-Brushless...1.c0.m14.l1308

I don't have one yet. I said "If I started bringing them in". I spoke with the manufacturer and they are supposed to be sending me a 6S and a 10S model for testing.

timaneli 07.01.2008 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 187086)
I don't have one yet. I said "If I started bringing them in". I spoke with the manufacturer and they are supposed to be sending me a 6S and a 10S model for testing.

the modellfun store sell my my combo and tell me for use a 4s lipo on this motor i need a external bec.

what do you advise at external bec´s??

i am from portugal and i only buy on ebay until now..

regards


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