You can say that again... I'm just mad, not because of debates, or him defending his products... I'm mad because he called me a Liar... Call me n *sshole or something, maybe even a B*tch.. but don't call me a Liar...:yes:

BrianG is without question one of the most objective level headed people your likely to come across in this or any public forum. If there is a way to present views or information contrary to those that Jason has he likely has the best chance.

That said though I find it impossible to have a conversation with persons that ignore any data that is presented to them, have absolutely no data of their own that contradicts mine, or that resorts to name calling.

The world is round... you will admit that the world is flat or you shall face the executioner!

You are a liar, you do not think maxamps are the best batteries money can buy!:party:

Seriously, I was reading through the NK forum posts, and some guy said that he belived that maxamps made the best batteries in the world, at any price. They have him fooled...

This may be of use to some PPL. www.ghostmyip.com

Wow, the post 16 justification of Kulangs peaks being near the continuous rating is just boggling. Since when is peaking near the continuous rating pushing the pack continuously? If I had to draw a conclusion on duty cycle it would be around 50%, which is 1/2 of being run continuously. :lol:

John, you should be banned from every forum. You're such a trouble-maker. How dare you speak the truth!

Oh MY GOD!!.. you said the "T" word... I'd be praying for forgiveness tonight...
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PS Just a thought guys I'm sure Monster Mike doesn't want to be drawn into anything regarding this forum and NK or anything personal regarding Austin or Jason.

My personal suggestion would be to delete most of this thread and continue a very real and interesting debate re the ratings of different packs and saftey implications of poor standards. That is very interesting... Perhaps a new thread in General electric or maybe a new sub forum on batteries and chargers?

Thanks...

B*tch! :mdr: Sorry, somebody had to do it. :na:

I just had a nice long chat with Austin on the phone. I think some good will come of this. Long story short, he was cool and listened to my suggestions. We spent a good portion of time talking about C ratings and how the industry has no uniformity. I suggested that he has enough market clout to change this, and that they should start posting up some discharge graphs.

You should've told him to start getting some quality lipos instead of the Tronicz crap.

He informed me that they were using two factories now, I have no doubt that he will search for better cells as time goes on.

This good news, glad that you spoke to him John.

We didn't agree about the 6000vs 8000 test being fair though. I explained that his pack is rated for a higher amp draw, therefor it should hold higher voltage under load. He responded that ratings from a factory don't mean anything since there are no standards. Ball in my court, I had no good response to that.

If ratings from a factory don't mean anything, then why bother advertising them?

It appears through testing that True R/C's ratings are accurate, so is he admitting that his are over-rated by the factory?

I'm glad you were able to talk to him, especially as a business owner yourself.