I designed it five years ago... Been on the market about four years.

I hope the trade in thing happens. I could use the improvements with the MMP.

Haha, i like the drawing on tower hobbies, the mamba that ROARs. I like the pun.
I too want to see a replacement program to take dead MM and turn them into working MMP and a alive MM to MMP program.
also, dont take this as a repuation killing question, but with testing, have you seen many failures similar to the MMM? feel free to just ignore the question if you don't want it answered.

what is the "smart sense" listed at tower in the title?

Swaps from Sensored to Sensorless and can adjust timing at higher throttle input to give power boost...

thanks thats enough info for me to get one as soon as they get out.

Yousef

Well Pizza I can do - 3 pies on their way to you today at 12 noon...

Should be enough for you, Support and Repairs!

Cheers

We should have a program to upgrade the MM to MMPro -- The cost will be the same as non-warranty replacement on the MMPro.

We haven't seen any failures on the MMPro in beta testing. (that I know of...)

I love you. If I send a dead MM I also pay the same MMP replacement cost?

:party: :party: :party: :party:

Great news - Can you just keep my MM replacement until the programme comes into place?

Thanks

Just out of curiosity how many beta test units were sent out?

Jeff

You're gonna have to send some more pies I suppose. (apple yeah:whistle:)

I have a MM that is toasted- literally.. If that plan comes to light then i will send for some mail order strippers....or steaks. tough decision I bet.:lol:

because you didn't send me or ben 1. bet we could have messed them up lol. j/k man congrats, and my sc-10 is waiting for 1

And the Beta units used an older FET -- the production units are using a new technology FET that can handle even more current.

We're pretty stoked about the MMP -- production starts in a week.

Are the motors that come in the package sensored?

Not at first -- our sensored motor isn't ready for production yet. -- But the Mamba Max Pro will support sensored motors.

Patrick will new motors be two or four pole? Don't be so mysterious, give us (your biggest fans), some more info :smile: I am sure you are preparing something special :diablo:

:neutral: I think Patrick goes far above and beyond the call. :yipi:

Thanx for doing what you do! :smile:

He understans we need six-pole 60mm motors in our 1/10 onroad cars :whip:

Well, I will give you a preview:

We are releasing our own line of ROAR legal (stock type -- 10.5/13.5/17.5/21.5) motors (which MUST be two-pole, sensored, salient wound, NOVAK clones by ROAR rules...)

We are also releasing a Neu/Castle 36mm 4 pole sensorless motor which will be ROAR legal for modified. This is a Steve Neu design, similar to our MMM motors, but at Kvs more suited for 1/10th scale, and in a ROAR legal can size.


Availability -- probably Oct/Nov time frame.

Cool...anything for us 4-6s 1/10 bashers? (non ROAR)

Yeah, a 1509 or 1412 size motor would be peachy! Basically a good low-cost alternative to the late Medusa 60mm motors...

That sounds promising :) Thanks!

1509 or 1309 (36mm diameter) would be easy...

What KVs would you like to see?

2200, 3300-3500, 4800.... thx

I was thinking 1509 (54mm long) because the larger diameter would make up for the shorter length. The 1412 would be 36mm in diameter, so would benefit from the longer 60mm length. These could be used in heavier and/or larger vehicles like the Slash, CRT.5, etc, or for the normal lighter 2WD vehicles geared higher for faster speeds. Basically vehicles where the current CMs motors are just a hair too small to run without stressing.

As far as kv's go; good matches for various lipo voltages to get between 30k-40k rpm:
- 2s: 4000-5400
- 3s: 2700-3600
- 4s: 2000-2700
- 5s: 1600-2200
- 6s: 1300-1800

I'll take a 2000-2200.

Me too. (with flames on the can)

OOh yeah, black can with green flames :great:

Nah, You could leave those production cost adding flames off. They are pretty adolescent anyways...

Yeah, black can with green flames would mean anodize black, laser etch, anodize green -- expensive!

I say just leave them bare aluminum. Cheaper.:lol:

You really don't want bare aluminum, trust me on this.

Jeff

My vote goes to black chrome. (think rustler vxl wheels)

nice, are the roar legal ones going to have replaceable stators like the new novak line (ballistic series) ?

Probably not replaceable stators. Bearings, rotors, sensor assembly, yes. We are not using the "screw through the can" design that Novak is using, so stator replacement is pretty much out of the question.

What use would a replaceable stator be anyway? I mean, if you remove the stator (and already remove the ends and rotor), you are left with just a cyclindrical shell. I can't imagine the replacement cost of the stator/shell is much more that just a stator...

BrianG if you look at novaks new series it will all make sense. Basically if you were doing a spec class you buy one motor and then just buy a wound stator for the other turns you want. That way you spend about $30 for each different turn instead of $90 a pop for each turn you might need.


http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...56.56692.0.0.0

Thats.... actually quite cool how you can do that- for racing it makes sense.

Shame it wouldnt be so simple if you fried the stator, as most times the rotor has become demagnetized at the same time due excessive temps- new rotor and stator wouldnt be much cheaper than a whole new motor I think is the point. But for racing, a $30 stator assembly is alot cheaper than a whole new motor in order to change your motor class for racing.