I thought he was referring to the Mamba Ice line. My q was regarding the hydra line.

Hydra ICE build is scheduled for the same timeframe as Mamba XL-HV.

Have you ever had an old friend coming to visit, and find yourself at the window watching down the road?

You know they are coming, but you just don't know exactly when.

Anticipation is making you wait.

As you watch down the road, you think to yourself, "Maybe I should have asked what time they were planning on leaving".

Patrick, Can you give an idea of the time frame?

Are we talking a few weeks, or are we still months out?

Thanks.

Well, probably six to eight weeks (if everything goes perfectly...)

I need one really bad!

My savage flux on 6S is not happy with MMM v3...:lol:

6-8 weeks isnt too bad...

Like the MMM V1 that had problems, are we meant to expect minor faults with this new ESC or have all the faults and kinks been ironed out?

I don't think they would repeat the same "mistake" again. If there still are major issues with the first versions they will probably replace the ESC for you. (like MMM V2->V3)

Hi Patrick,
how are things going? Are you on track with the ESC's so the 6-8 weeks timeframe is still holds?

Thanks,
Thomas

Well said.... I've been waiting some time for the new stuff and seeing the HPI Baja in person at castle's booth 2 weeks ago made it so much worse. It's counter intuitive but so much so that I'm ordering up new parts right now, looks like Schulze is it for an ESC for the moment, hoping for some new Castle goodness soon.

Looks like the 8S controller is on schedule. The 12S controller still needs just a bit of work.

Thanx!

need help??:wink:

Any updates? How far are you from a release?

yes any update on these... i think we have been very patient thus far :)

i am just curious as i have a big pay day xoming this week and i was thinking to spend it on the new MMMXL and 9s nanotech lipos or if its not coming, i will just build another flux?

please help me spend my money :)

Did we ever get an answer regard whether the Mamba software will be able to be loaded on the current ICE HV160?

I would like to buy a ICE HV160 now for a marine project but would like to be able to use it in land applications in the future.

Has anyone got an update on these controllers, Patrick could you release a pic so that we can see what it looks like. Will it look more like a MMM or Phoenix ICE HV controller???

+1 :whistle:

i want to plan ahead so i can figure out how i am going to mount it in my chassis

Come on Patrick. Throw us a bone here. Even a bread crumb would do. LOL.

A pic of what it would look like and maybe a definitive date of release would be very nice. Pretty please.

Sorry -- these have been released to production, just not in the production schedule yet. We expect them to be available to the general public in early-mid November.

thanks for the update. early to mid november... I take it that is only for the 8s? will the 12s not be available till after christmas?

thats great news:yipi:

WoooHoooo! :yipi:
I found my Christmas present. Thanks Pat. Anyway of pre-ordering through Castle? I bought all these 8S capable motors and have no 8S capable ESC to run them.:cry:

I believe its the 8S first the 12S needed a touch more tinkering IIRC.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...&ref=fbx_album

!!!

Not on the official site yet...cannot wait!

GETTING EXCITED!!!

but is it still the case that the 8s controller will on work with 8s if using mechanical brakes?

and

6s with motor brakes?

And the 12s controller only can take 12s if you use mech brakes

and 10s if you use motor brakes?

Ll
 

The 8s controller will work with 8s and brakes... The 12s controller with 10s with motor brake, 12 s with mechanical brakes.

Thanks Patrick...

I most definitely will be wanting to run 9s on the 1520.
Due to my savage now being more of a fatty since i have added the GH Alloy Bulks and put the lipo boxes back on... i have had to gear the top end down a bit to keep the truck from getting hot. So i now need to run more voltage to get my desired speeds... so i will definitely be wanting to run 9s.

Patrick, i know that these neu motors are well made, and i have heard people running 10s on a neu 1520! obviously this exceeds the reccomended RPM.
I used a calculator and have the figures here assuming the following.

Neu 1520 (1600 kv)
Motor Resistance = 0.008
Current draw = roughly 120 amps?

Voltage Vs Rpm
Voltage---@3.7V-------@ 4.2V
8s--------45,824-------52,224
9s--------51,774-------58,994
10s-------57,664-------65,664

If i can i would ideally like to run 10s and gear my top end down to compensate.
I have heard of few people running their motors on the limit like this with no problems.
Do you think this would be ok to run? obviously i would expext premature motor failure...

What do you think?
Your advice is more appreciated
Thanks

Josh

What is your rtr weight? Why don't you think that 8s will be enough for you (I can tell you from experience that 8s gives lots of power).

im not sure... but it used to be 14.3lbs fully loaded with 6s worth of lipos

Now it has GH Alloy bulks, Nylon Roll Cage, lipo boxes... so i would say around 15.5-16lbs? maybe more? i will weigh it properly very soon.

Oh i know 8s will give me MORE than enough power... But i want to go all out with this setup. I have spent a lot of money thus far and i think i should just max it out and be happy. Otherwise after i buy the 8s controller i will want the 12s one anyway! we all know how it is in this hobby :)

also considering...

i know many that run the 2650kv on 6s... on 6s at 3.7V its at 58,830 and 4.2V at 66,780

also i heard somewhere that, these motors are fine for higher RPMs but the bearings are only rated to 60,000rpm...
What would a bearing failure do to the motor? Would it be repairable or do you usually want to catch bearing failure before it happens? Can i replace the bearings with some decent ceramic bearings that are rated to higher rpms?

For my 19lb truck, I didn't see any real advantage to 10s over 8s, so I'm sticking with 8s. I can gear it for 50mph and with good batteries it has almost uncontrollable acceleration.

Soooo, that's like three weeks now Patrick. Right? Can we RC-Monster power hungry freaks pre-order one (or two)?:whistle:

The NMB bearing are ok up to 100K RPM (to be confirmed).
The castle rotor is ok up to 60K RPM, maybe more, there is always a safety gap I think....
But if the rotor blows at 65K RPM, there is maybe a critical risk to damage the ESC too.

Just because you put 10s on the your truck does not mean that the motor will do that RPM. The rated RPM is "unloaded" so the load that is placed on the motor by your gearing means that it will not rev out as high

The neu motors Kv is given at max efficiency, reached when the motor is loaded.
When I ran a Kv test with my NEU/CC 2200Kv motor unloaded I found 2500Kv, so I wouldn't try the NEU/CC 1520 on 10S anyway. I think 8S is more than enough with this motor ^^

hmmm ok 9s it is haahaha
thanks for all the input...

but still want to hear from patrick :)

http://www.bigsquidrc.com/mamba-xl-1...ss-conversion/

I know we've all seen these pics in the other thread, but what caught my eye was the comment in the article: "The ESC is actually available now, the motor and conversion kit will be hitting in about 2 weeks."

So what's the deal? Anyone seen these available? Or did I miss something in a different thread?

i know!!! But i havent seen it available anywhere!

More importantly, when is he 12s version out?

12s is available now, the air version.

everyone knows the air version is availble... this thread is regarding the car/truck version.

So what's gonna be the big difference between the 12s car and 12s air? You still need to use mechanical brakes. 10s can handle motor brakes :) oh.... I get it.

yep you got it! also, i think the air version was more specific to being air cooled??? and the land version has a fan etc...