perhaps MA is not a good example of buying quality american products.

How American is the product when it is only assembled in America? The cells are Chinese if I'm not mistaken.

Yes probably. But American motor cars are the same way to. The parts are manufactured else where but assembled here. Like i said before not many things are actualy MADE here in America. It's hard to produce things here if we don't even make the componets here. Very few companies make everything in house in America. Klien tools is and always has been made in America but who knows where they get the materials from? At this point I don't really care where it comes from or how it got here I want performance/price ratio that is reasonable. It's unfortunate to feel this way but we are all products of our enviroment. I'm a third gen union worker but the world is so shortsided right now there is no real benifit to holding on to the American product ideal as much as it hurts me to say that. The fact is we as a nation demand bently grade products at walmart prices. Something that isn't possible and as close as it comes are the outsorced products we get for cheap. Some are better than others as they are designed here but produced overseas to get the best quality/price for the situation we are in with the economy and beligerant consumers.

Mostly true.
 

What everyone is saying is mostly true, but we are talking directly about MAXAMPS and this is their chance to redeam their products and marketing stratigy. Not to mention saving face by stopping all of the BS with how they sell LiPo's and how they are treating their customers in general. Watching CC and how they opperate has been a refreshing experience from the consumer perspective and a lot of compaies could learn a few things from them. We all know that some of their tactics might not be the best for profits, but it keeps people comming back for more just because they make us all feel respected to some level. Brandon you guys might want to rethink your approach and learn a few things from the CC business model. Now how about leveling the playing field here and start providing some evidence that supports your claims with this new 150c LiPo?

Sorry for the tangent everyone. Let's just say that we can't stop some companies from their practices it is their decision. I will agree though products should be sold for what they are. Most in this hobby are smart enough to see between the lines but the ones that aren't could easily be turned away from a single bad experience. Let's try to stop that so the hobby industry keeps growing. The whole 150c deal has alot of people miffed but let's just deal with the hype with healthy skepticism until we see some actual proof. I don't believe it and wouldn't buy a pack but maybee if I saw a graph or something I would consider it momentarily.....

Yeah, that one just came to me... After I read about how the entire rescue operation involved Americans and american made equipment, and obviously was funded by america completely.

What are you talking about? You can't hurt that stuff, it just keeps coming back for more!!!

Nah, quit drinking, and wear a respirator. Have you checked in a mirror lately? Not to kick someone when they are down, but really?

And the top of your head is very attractive too Brian.


Now that i have successfully added nothing to this thread... I patiently wait for graphs...

http://www.rcbros.com/forum/forum_po...?TID=6922&PN=1


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Now, take a look at TrueRC- they hand assemble packs, have a good warrenty system, and dont charge a 300% profit margin. Spot the difference between MA and TrueRC? Both American companies, both working from home, both assembling chinese cells as made to order packs, but only one of them price-gouges and takes advantage of inexperienced hobbyiests with grossly exaggerated claims of C ratings. :whip:

Enoughs enough... lets not cover the same old ground.

Its like ground hog day...

Okay then:

Wise man say, when releasing fantastic new lipos with massive C rating, you must first test the lipo to determine it has a fantastic C rating. If you produce a graph of your test result, is it not pertinent to post the graph up at the same time- why delay and risk the wrath of the non-believers?

Because they wanted the "press" release before they went to the show - Could they have included the graphs with the release yes but they didn't.

Move on - As I've said repeatedly lets give the new guy a couple of weeks grace before gathering pitch forks and fire wood.

Isn't 90% of the above a rehash of earlier threads?

NO, He should have proof ALREADY. Not in a few weeks...:whip:

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Well, you know, its fun to use the search feature sometimes- type 'maxamps graph' in and have a dig.

Once upon a time MA sold 4000mah cells that they themselves rated as '12C constant and 16C burst (conservatively)'. How things change.

I also like this thread: http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=117095

And this: http://www.nitrokillers.com/showthread.php?t=1527

Quick mathes- 119.8amps / 4.2amps ( 4200mah ) = 28.5C. Take a look at the cell voltage and you'll see its down below 3.2v after only ~10% of the discharge cycle. Thats the ~27c cell rated for 35c that I love to remind Austin about so very frequently.

I'll shutup now, but I will say this as a final comment: better have some bloody good graphes to show us after iHobby is over...

I'll be waiting!

are they even at Ihobby????:gasp:http://www.ihobbyexpo.com/ExhibitorLists.html