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gixxer 10.28.2007 11:39 PM

I saw that post on rc groups. I also think thats a nice added feature. Looks like we should definitely be getting our money's worth when these finally come out.

suicideneil 10.29.2007 01:04 PM

10 gauge wire? So this is going to be a powerful setup me thinks?....

jhautz 10.29.2007 02:16 PM

Maybe I missed it somewhere in this thread, but does anyone have an estimate on the cost of the MMM ESC alone without the Motor. I saw the motor/ESC combo was estimated at around $300, so I'm guessing the ESC only offering will be in the $200-$225 range. I alreeady have more motors than I need, I just want the bulletproof controller to go with them.

I have no doubt that the MMM will be what CC says it will be, I just keep hoping that CC actually comes through on a date this time. I still have no faith that they will release it in the next year let alone 3-4 months that they are talking about now. But I am hoping.:neutral:

squeeforever 10.29.2007 04:13 PM

I'd say cheaper for the ESC. Its gonna be a nice motor, so I'd say the motors a good $150 or so of the price since its gonna be a Neu.

nl12 10.29.2007 08:06 PM

I will have a truck and some 6s flightpowers waiting for the MMM if it comes out on schedule.......

BitHed 10.29.2007 09:19 PM

...i might have missed it but did we get a measurement of the can from front to back? A feigao L is 60 and an XL is 74mm give or take...

BrianG 10.29.2007 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 125910)
I'd say cheaper for the ESC. Its gonna be a nice motor, so I'd say the motors a good $150 or so of the price since its gonna be a Neu.

Actually, someone else found out that it was going to be a motor based on a Neu, but not a "real" Neu. Besides, a MMM for $150 would pretty much kill sales for the MM unless they dropped the price for that one accordingly. If the package deal is indeed $300, I would say ~$90-$110 for the motor and ~$190-$210 for the ESC.

Patrick 10.29.2007 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BitHed (Post 125974)
...i might have missed it but did we get a measurement of the can from front to back? A feigao L is 60 and an XL is 74mm give or take...

Well they're supposed to be using the neu 1515 design for the motors, and 1515's are 69mm long, so I guess they'll be close to that.

squeeforever 10.30.2007 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 125996)
Actually, someone else found out that it was going to be a motor based on a Neu, but not a "real" Neu. Besides, a MMM for $150 would pretty much kill sales for the MM unless they dropped the price for that one accordingly. If the package deal is indeed $300, I would say ~$90-$110 for the motor and ~$190-$210 for the ESC.

True, it would kill the sales of the MM, but whats with the Sidewinder? Perhaps the MMM is gonna be cheap enough so the MMM and Sidewinder cover both smaller lower voltage applications and the MMM for higher? I don't really see how a motor that cost $250 plus could be sold for $100 and still make money. Granted, the quality will be reduced, but not by much I wouldn't think. The cheaply made MM motors are ~$80 if I remember correctly, I would say the MMM motor will be a good bit more, but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong.

BrianG 10.30.2007 12:46 AM

I hear ya. Whoever is making the motors is gonna have to cut some corners somewhere to meet a price point and quality level that will be accepted by the masses or they'll just use a different motor.

Either that or the price will be higher than $300. After all, a MM system typically goes for $212, so it wouldn't surprise me if the actual price is right around $400-$450 for the bundle - which would make more sense given the size and capabilities. Maybe that $300 figure is dealer cost? I dunno, but even at $400 it would be a decent buy considering what you get.

Happywing 10.30.2007 07:32 AM

Ya, I'd like to know where this "$300.00" came from. That's way too cheap. $400-$450 sounds about right to me.

MTBikerTim 10.30.2007 08:13 AM

Well machine wound would be a lot cheaper then hand wound wouldn't it? Also a much larger scale production bring down cost as well. I doubt the cost would be over $400. It wouldn't sell if it was (it may sell to us but not the average joe).

lutach 10.30.2007 09:46 AM

Most companies have a huge mark up basically to cover the overhead. If you look at the electronic components that goes in a ESC, you will see that most don't add up to $20, but most will say the software brings the price up and it is true. I know companies that makes slotted style motors for prices most people can't understand. The slot less motors from Feigao for example, if I put the prices they are really worth in here, I'll probably get kicked. I'll make one example: The 600L motor from Align is manufactured by another company and my price is $35 for 100+ units.

BitHed 10.30.2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick (Post 125999)
Well they're supposed to be using the neu 1515 design for the motors, and 1515's are 69mm long, so I guess they'll be close to that.

...So about 70mm...Excellent thanks for that Patrick...I was hoping the measurement would be metric ;)

Patrick 10.30.2007 12:43 PM

That's assuming CC's version of the neu motors are the same length.


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