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Mike.L 09.01.2006 10:58 AM

lucky to have a cool cop at that time. I love when people watch our cars go fast.:D

glassdoctor 09.19.2006 02:14 PM

Hey Brian here's a link to some Jato setups that should get it going better on the track. The Silver State is the Vegas race and the track is usually dry and hard... kinda like Haven's

http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitr..._resources.htm

neweuser 09.19.2006 02:34 PM

i believe the link is for revo's?

BrianG 10.01.2006 02:47 AM

Update on the Jato:

I don't know how, but I broke one of the cups on the CVD set. This really sucks because you have to take the diff totally apart to replace it. :mad:1

So, I put them back to stock sliders. Ran two packs today at the track (about 1.5 hours) and they held up fine. At least if the sliders break, I won't have to tear apart the diffs!

BrianG 10.01.2006 02:50 AM

Glassdoctor: I checked out the Jato setups but haven't gotten around to implementing them yet. I'm actually pretty happy with the setup if I could just get some decent tires. I've worn out another set of stockers. Imex is the only company that carries 2.8" rims and tires with pins and some stuff is out of stock right now. 2.2" rims won't work for me because I'm using RPM arms and you need to do some mods to use 2.2's, which I don't want to do.

vette1 11.03.2006 09:07 AM

What was the top speed of the BL Jato you built? It actually looks real easy to convert not like the Revo which almost everything has to be custamized.

GorillaMaxx360 11.03.2006 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG
Hmmm, I think that's too small. I was thinking about something like the Jato, but I don't hear of too many people converting that and I wondered why.

You are right not many people do this conversion, but if I am not mistaen I have heard at least 2 people on these fourms going for this same conversion. All in all i think it would work well, because my friend has a jato 3.3 and it is a blast to drive. Now think about gitting rid of that extra weight and throwing a BL cobmo I think it would be just as fun.

GorillaMaxx360 11.03.2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360
You are right not many people do this conversion, but if I am not mistaen I have heard at least 2 people on these fourms going for this same conversion. All in all i think it would work well, because my friend has a jato 3.3 and it is a blast to drive. Now think about gitting rid of that extra weight and throwing a BL cobmo I think it would be just as fun.

Sorry i am a little late with this Quote on "Quote" I just read the first page I did not see there was nine. Sorry again.

neweuser 11.03.2006 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG
Glassdoctor: I checked out the Jato setups but haven't gotten around to implementing them yet. I'm actually pretty happy with the setup if I could just get some decent tires. I've worn out another set of stockers. Imex is the only company that carries 2.8" rims and tires with pins and some stuff is out of stock right now. 2.2" rims won't work for me because I'm using RPM arms and you need to do some mods to use 2.2's, which I don't want to do.

Well, since this has been reopened, I'll let you know Brian that I run 2.2 rims on my Jato and did not have to mod anything? So i was curious to what you mean there. Also, if you shop around, I have been seeing new tires and rims for the Jato that are 2.8's. Or at least my LHS had new kind of 2.8 tires for the 2.8 rims, something like that, but I have seen them.

BrianG 11.03.2006 11:11 AM

vette1: Top speed with 2s on the 4600 was ~47mph. I can still add one more cell for 3s, which should bring it up to ~60, but it's already plenty fast for me. This project went from an "on road" project to "on track" project. :) The only local track I know of is too small to hit those speed without spinning out, so I'm happy.

GorillaMaxx360: That's ok, we'll forgive you... this time, but don't let it happen again! ;)

neweuser: When using 2/2" rims with the RPM arms, you have to replace the hub pin retailer cap screw with a grub screw on the rear so it clears the inside of the rim. For the front: you have to shim out the tires with a few washers. I did get a set of those 2.8's you were talking about, but they seem to be out of stock online a lot and my LHS doesn't carry them yet. They are the imexx rims/tires. These are what you are talking about...

neweuser 11.03.2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG
neweuser: When using 2/2" rims with the RPM arms, you have to replace the hub pin retailer cap screw with a grub screw on the rear so it clears the inside of the rim. For the front: you have to shim out the tires with a few washers. I did get a set of those 2.8's you were talking about, but they seem to be out of stock online a lot and my LHS doesn't carry them yet. They are the imexx rims/tires. These are what you are talking about...

Well, I didn't have to shave my back screw at all with my rpms and 2.2 wheels. But for my front wheels, i run stock because i like the low profile on the tires. I have the dished wheels from Traxxas that I would like to try here soon and am still looking at what tires to put on. I mostly bash with my jato(more like beat the hell out of it) so I don't race it. If I could just find a track around here! ARG!

BrianG 11.03.2006 11:35 AM

You didn't have any clearance issues with RPM arms??

neweuser 11.03.2006 11:54 AM

No, I did have issues using RPM rims, but not with the Agitator rims(i think this is what they are). I didn't have to shave anything or use a grub screw. I had the grub screws ready as I heard this before, but I still use the stockers back there.

BrianG 11.03.2006 12:19 PM

Actually, I was talking about the RPM arms. :)

The RPM stuff is thicker and the rear inside rim would rub on the cap screw. Even with a grub screw, there is very little clearance between the axle hub and the rim...

JB3231 11.11.2006 09:29 PM

I tried the B4 for an onroad basher with a Mamba Max 5700Kv and Lipo 3S. The motor placement does not work well. There is too much weight in the rear and it just wheelies at all speeds. I was getting 60+ mph out of mine but I could never just punch the throttle. I had to try and ease it up to top speed. Also the tower's get completely destroyed if you ever flip it over on concrete.

My next project, very similar to yours, will be something 4wd and have much more weight bias towards the front. I would recommend something like a 1/10th 4wd buggy with street tires. Maybe a Losi XXX.

Also the B4 with that much power will burn the tires up after 2 packs. Mine were completely bald after 2 runs in a parking lot.

Hope this helps since I just tried the same thing.


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