I think they do it for a package standpoint, brushless in cars and trucks is still reletively new and matching them up is a good thing, there is almost a standard

JOE,

Any guesses when we will see a software update for the NEU's? I know you're working on it.

And, I'll be buying the MMM esc as soon as they are released so I can retire my MM esc to lighter duty use!

Pro...not sure...again the whole invention thing. You never know when it's going to be done, it just is...when it works for me in testing we'll know it's ready. ;)

hey Joe, can you tell us if the MMM and possibly newer MM esc's will have the new bec/ubec you have been designing integrated? I'd love to have a 5-6s esc without a UBEC

Joe, I am curious: Will the MMM be able to handle relatively lower power supplies, such as 12 NiMh cells?

Also, will it still be able to be programed using the computer?

Sorry for the basic ?'s, and if you don't know I'd rather not get an "It might..."

Thanks for the help and heads up:

Gary Zucker

From what he posted in the latter posts, it should handle anything up to 20 cells and be computer programmed

Joe,

Thanks for all you time spent here answering questions! We all appreciate it! I think I speak for us all when I say we're bursting at the seems waiting for the MMM and the updated software!!!!

Thanks!

Pro. :027:

Hi.I'm new here and thought you'd like to see this.I hope it doesn't violate any rules.I just wanted to help generate discussion.Thank you

Castle Creations Phoenix-110 High Voltage Brushless ESC

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXLBY5&P=ML

Welcome to the forums Monk! Thanks for the link.

Who'll be the first to test it out?:)

Edit: Just read in another topic, that someone has one in his revo right now... I asked him how he likes it, so we'll see.

Mr. Ford, do you have any information about whether or not you are going to release a Hi-Volt version of the Mamba Monster Max?

I'm looking between 6-9 lipos.....

Is there a chance you'll do it for the power hungry folks?

Hi Monk; welcome to the forum; The phoenix is meant for stick transmitters, which basically start with throttle at 0 percent of the stick movement; The pistol grip transmitters start at 30-40 percent of the throttle. (where 30-40 percent is reserved for brake/reverse) Can you imagine what happens? :) this can be corrected with the use of a pixie though (small device that makes the pistol grip signal act like a stick transmitter; but then there are the brakes; the phoenix hasn't got proportional brakes. so you need a mechanical brake.

Starscream is one of the users that has this controller (or had, since he didn't know about the existence of this converter needed for the phoenix) i thought he mentioned about buying another one and try it again.

Well, in all hoping that patience is truely virtuous, I will keep holding out. I do wish Joe that ya'll would release the esc seperately though. My little erevo sits waiting so my pede is having to keep me satisfied. Also as was stated earlier, I am hoping too that an internal bec will be able to handle up to at least 5s as it is much cleaner.

I had my revo all set up to run the mm esc with ubec but all the excess wiring still distrubs me, I want a much cleaner look. Luckily, unlike some of my other rc projects, I am taking my time to get it all right but soon the only thing I will be waiting on will be the esc.

Thanks for stopping by Joe, with all the info. I too am planning to get myself a Monster Max for my brushless TNX when it's done; I'm sure it'll be just as ground-breaking as the Max was when it first came out.:018: I'm hoping it'll have a built-in switching BEC too. Is there a rough projection of a retail price for the ESC yet, by any chance?

I do have the HV110 and pix adapter. It has worked well so far but really, I've been waiting for the slipperential V2 to come out to really put it to the test. Right now my gearing options are limited to one gear ratio since my NEU 1515 2Y F motor barely fits on my motor mount and t-maxx 3.3 tranny. The pixstick adapter works pretty well with my Sensor radio but does have a little quirk. Once you start using the throttle, the throttle signal seems to get stuck (just barely, so its very very slow and will stop when brakes are applied). This quirk may not occur with other radio's but I'm not sure. This is tolerable for now but if the MMM will handle 6S, I'll be getting one ASAP.

StarScream, why did you give up on your MGM? did you face any sort of trouble operating it?

Both the MGM 12032 and HV110 work well for my application.
I sold the MGM because the HV110 is easier to program, can handle higher voltage and doesn't cost as much. The MGM was also a hydro version and better suited for water applications. Not to mention I've always favored Castle Creations because of there solid product line and support. Wow, this is sounding like a commercial :027:

I've heared many people here who did not have good experience with the MGMs. I bought the 12032 over a month from Mike and till this day I'm just afraid to use it not to get shocked at how poor it's performance might be....daaaaaaaaahhhh....

I've gone threw the MGM thing myself. They look fantastic on paper and for the most part they are, but mine had a weird problem with the throttle control. From what I've heard the problem has been long since fixed. I say if you have an MGM then use it. If it works without issues then you have a real winner. It seems to be kind of a hit or miss thing with MGM. The ones that work, work well. The ones that don't have to be sent in for a firmware update. I'll tell you one thing though; I never had any heat issues with my MGM controllers.

I would love for castle to do the HV110 route for the heatsinks, hint hint;)

Welcome to the forums Monk!

Not sure if this model will work in cars/trucks. Many of the Castle ESC's not originally designed for cars & trucks will only work with a "stick" type controller. The specs are good though! We can hope the release a car/truck version!

i cant wait for this new setup. i am only going to run a modest 12 cell sanyo pack. i just want my e-revo off the ground so i can sell the nitro crap i dont need.....dont want to sell till i have the motor and ESC in my hands. and thanks to alll the guys and gals at CC and the guys and gals on this forum, i'm glad i stumbled across youall

All right Patrick and Joe, it's time. Traxxas is nipping at your heals now with this Velineon system. The next step is very obvious. I really like your products and support, but the time has come. Granted the Traxxas model doesn't have all the CC type features but this is huge.

It's time to roll with the MMM.

Patience is virtue!

I am not suggesting the Traxxas model would be superior to the MMM, it's just that fact is fact. Traxxas took a big leap forward last night, and many others will be left scrambling just like when the T-E Maxx came out then the Revo.

I really love my MM and the programability that comes with it, and that is why I truely want the MMM. However, many others will not see it that way and if Traxxas beats them to the punch, well enough said.

Honestly, I don't think Traxxas will. And Traxxas may have decent Cs, but still not as good as CC IMO

I think CC better turn the MMM from "vapor ware" into reality soon. Right now they could OWN the BL MT market. If they wait too long they could miss this incredible opportunity.

I agree - This is huge for TRX but they are not the first out there as Losi has already done it with the XXX-T.

What makes it huge for TRX is their visibilty and overall dominance in the entry level market. They take a platform that their manufacturing already supports and put a brushless system- hype...errr market the heck out of it. Make it stupid fast and sell more parts... GENIUS!

I think Castle can only benefit from Traxxas' entry into the BL market. It will introduce more people to the brushles arena. And like everyone here, they will get addicted and crave a more functional and powerful system.:004:

Everyone keeps bringing up Losi but come on, they put an old overstocked Novak system in that they probably bought at deep discount because Novak couldn't sell them what with the new releases. Then it's barely faster than the Brushed version and had no other real changes to the vehicle.

Traxxas put a real high performance BL system in , beefed up many areas of the vehicle, and improved a few other things. I think there is a clear difference here. Not too mention is Traxxas was smart and actually used a sensoreless system but still left the option there for someone who still wants sensored.

I guess this means that now that Traxxas has done this that ROAR will have a little more pressure to allow sensorless in.

TEX,

I agree the Traxxas offering is Much More Impressive.

The one thing you are missing, is the fact the Velineon is made for the Rusty, Stampede, Jato type cars. I don't believe after reading everything that it will push the Maxx or Revo's. I noticed there chart went to 3s lipo. So this is basically another system like the MM, which can be run on 4s and even 5s. I bet that if you hook the Velineon on to 4s, it would melt that esc. This is my opinion though after a quick glance, unless there are versions for the maxx and revo's/heavier trucks. So technically, Traxxas is still behind with CC unless it is reated higher for MT's.

Newe,

I'll put money on the fact that Traxxas is developing an ESC/Motor combo for a new release of the E-maxx & E-Revo. I'd also bet that it will handle 6s.

New, I think you are missing what I am saying here.

First, I love my MM setup and wouldn't trade it for anything. I also know that the Velineon is not designed for a monster truck like the Revo or E-maxx.

My point is that Traxxas is obviously thinking ahead which means they probably have or are working on a BL setup for the Revo and E-Maxx which should put some pressure on CC.

I have no intention of putting a theoretical monster trcuk setup in my Revo from traxxas if it doesn't have the options the MM has and the MMM will have.

I think this should be a signal to everyone including CC that Traxxas is serious about the brushless market.

They didn't go for a lame off the shelf system, they designed (or had designed) their own high performance system.

I also have no doubt that the Velineon is not meant for 4s or above because it is stated that way by Traxxas and obvious by other information they give you.

Exactly what I am saying man.

No worries, we on the same page now! LOL, and I agree with the Losi statement as well. It just seemed as though that this was being compared to the MMM, or and esc of 6s. Which I think Traxxas will be farther away from developing than CC or Tekin or even Quark.

How much! You have other companies that are in the process and have been for awhile. Look at all they have upgraded so far, nothing is what it seems. If they are, it will not be anytime soon. Take CC for example and how long it has taken them to get this system out and perfected. Unless they have been sitting on this for sometime (which I doubt due to all the Nitro heads) and it seems that was their focus for some time now, Revo for example.

I still think it'll be some time before Traxxas will come out with a 6s system is my whole point Pro, although, there is always speculation and no one really knows. It is almost pointless to debate as Serum would say.

I would have agreed with this almost 100% before yesterday, but the fact that Traxxas developed their own high powered BL system unoticed then unleashed it in a big bang really shocked me (and most others I would assume).

I guess now it just has me second guessing some of my preconceived notions about them. Which is good on their part.

Only time will tell but no matter what this is an exciting time for electric RC and it just keeps getting better.

Castle needs to get on the stick, or they will be rolled over like traxxas. Traxxas had a year to produce the E revo, before gorilla and Kershaw started to offer theirs. Take into account all the homemade examples out their today they would have had top share of the market, but they will be lucky to get half of what they would have if they did it right.

Castle or Tekin needs to move fast because they don't got much time before traxxas becomes a player in the BL MT market. I know traxxas hasn't offered much in the way of options, but they do offer a true nearly brainless setup for the newb's and the disenchanted nitro users around the world. Some will look to traxxas as a step, but a lot might stick with them if they get there first

Yup! I agree. I did a quickie web search right after I saw it and came up with exactly ZERO hits on any of the names. They kept the lid on it very well. The performance looks to be quite good, and they picked the right KV motor for the job. A lot more people are going to start running brushless now as a direct result of this. I gotta hand it to Traxxas, they do great marketing.

Sleeb

I am kind of anixous to test one of these systems to cc and others.

i am welling to place money on the fact that traxxas has a e-revo in the beta stage. even 2 motor options, brushed or brushless. i just hope they dont crapout with a cheap plastic chassis.