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NovakTwo 01.22.2008 10:04 PM

Novak's Nitro to Brushless Conversion Kits
 
We have just released information about our upcoming 1/8th scale conversion kits. We will offer 9 individual kits and the list price will be $139.00--scheduled for a March ship date:

1/8th Nitro to Brushless Conversion Kits

We also released info about the new 5mm shaft rotor upgrade kit for the HV motors--to ship in February. Included is information about the upcoming Mod 1 pinion gears---some of the links aren't active, yet.

dezfan 01.22.2008 10:37 PM

This should get some heads turning.

skellyo 01.22.2008 11:06 PM

Any chance the HV systems will be available with the 5mm shaft from the factory instead of having to buy a new rotor?

lutach 01.22.2008 11:35 PM

Finally a 5mm shaft for the HV. I think someone else and I mentioning about this somewhere in a lost thread or post.

NovakTwo 01.22.2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 143283)
Any chance the HV systems will be available with the 5mm shaft from the factory instead of having to buy a new rotor?

Much of the delay in releasing the 5mm shaft upgrade kit was getting a good supply of the end bells. We're going to reserve the parts we get in stock for the kits until we are confident of receiving consistent supplies.

We will release the upgraded motors in a couple of months---adding some additional motor winds Bob has been testing.

Happywing 01.23.2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 143300)
We will release the upgraded motors in a couple of months---adding some additional motor winds Bob has been testing.

Sounds good. Lower Kv motors by any chance???

NovakTwo 01.23.2008 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happywing (Post 143302)
Sounds good. Lower Kv motors by any chance???

What wind motors do you suggest? We can offer whatever customers want---we wind all the motors here.

entjoles 01.23.2008 12:16 AM

id like to see something in the 2200-2400kv range

my hv 4.5 is making the tires look like 6.5" plates on 4s in a xt8, but its geared 15/48

gixxer 01.23.2008 12:23 AM

any plans for an updated esc? as for winds something around 2000kv for your current esc would be good(since you are limited to 4s).

Happywing 01.23.2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 143305)
What wind motors do you suggest? We can offer whatever customers want---we wind all the motors here.

As a customer before me stated. Something around 2400Kv. My 6.5 at 3100Kv was almost right for my 1/8 buggy. I had to gear down a bit (10 or 11/46) to keep it cool enough to make a 20 minute main without a controller thermal. I don't know the Kv rating of the 4.5, but that motor is not suitable for racing. A few of the guys around here tried them over the summer. Fast as all heck, but it thermals the controller quickly. I think the longest anyone lasted with the 4.5 was about 11-12 minutes on a cool day. So, the 4.5 is suitable for bashers. The 6.5 is very nearly suitable for racing. I think perhaps a 7.5 (or whatever you want to call it) at 2400Kv would be excellent for buggy's on 4s.

entjoles 01.23.2008 12:31 AM

how is the hv 6.5 working in the conv.

since it has a lower kv it should run cool and provide good speed in a buggy



im just wondering , because i tried a 4.5 tonight because of the mm update in a xt8, and it seems like if i gear down as far as i can go it would be an ok motor, but its probably going to run hot temps. on the motor, the 6.5 may be better for a truck due to the added weight, and lower kv on the 6.5

entjoles 01.23.2008 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Happywing (Post 143308)
As a customer before me stated. Something around 2400Kv. My 6.5 at 3100Kv was almost right for my 1/8 buggy. I had to gear down a bit (10 or 11/46) to keep it cool enough to make a 20 minute main without a controller thermal. I don't know the Kv rating of the 4.5, but that motor is not suitable for racing. A few of the guys around here tried them over the summer. Fast as all heck, but it thermals the controller quickly. I think the longest anyone lasted with the 4.5 was about 11-12 minutes on a cool day. So, the 4.5 is suitable for bashers. The 6.5 is very nearly suitable for racing. I think perhaps a 7.5 (or whatever you want to call it) at 2400Kv would be excellent for buggy's on 4s.

great info, thanks


and the 4.5 is 4800kv from what i could find, i looked at my info in the calc. and it said 72k rpm and like 84 mph, no wonder it cogged a little bit with 15/48 gearing on a mm

entjoles 01.23.2008 12:38 AM

? for NovakTwo........


what is the timing set at on the hv line of motors???
would like to continue testing this motor with my MM, once i gear it down to 11/48

NovakTwo 01.23.2008 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 143307)
any plans for an updated esc? as for winds something around 2000kv for your current esc would be good(since you are limited to 4s).

The info on the new HV items will be released probably late Spring. Bob has been testing the esc prototype in his converted 1/8 test vehicles.

The Crawler Systems were a lot more popular for Christmas than we projected, so some of our releases have been delayed because of the increased demand. ROAR just approved the 17.5, 13.5 and 10.5 turn motors for stock racing, so those orders are increasing, too. We need to ship the Data loggers, the Mongoose 1/18 Systems and this whole Conversion release first.

So many projects, so little time.

lincpimp 01.23.2008 12:46 AM

I think a 2500kv motor would be good. This would allow higher motor speeds than the xl motors. That way lower gearing could be employed, making some extra low end torque.


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