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trailranger 08.14.2005 10:24 PM

Emaxx to 1/8th Buggy Conversion?
 
So I was challenged by my local track to do 1/8 buggy. If you know me...if it spills, leaks or smells...I don't want it so I won't race nitro. I would guess having kids are out too since the spill, leak and smell. Any ways, I want to make my Emaxx and super-fast 1/8 buggy, minus 5cm in length. So I need a lil help picking out the upgrades.

Will the Pro-Line HD Hex Adapter 23mm Maxx Revo MGT fit normal 1/8th buggy tires?

Driveline? Seems plastic is a lil weak for racing, CVD? Gearing? Single or 2 Speed.

Motor and Controller? Would the stock motors be fine or should I do a simple Novak HV swap or into exotic brushless and controller setups. 20 cells would be awesome to pull out the most watts from 3300nihm but could be a lil heavy for my taste since jumping and turning will be required.

Body? Baja Truck body or buggy? Not like I am legal for racing outside my local track so I quess body really doesnt matter.


If you like my Idea of Brushless 1/8th scale buggy racing....promote it. Call traxxas, mugen, kyosho or your favotire brand and say EMBRACE BRUSHLESS....cause your drivelines are too weak for running brushless. But if you just have suggestions for making my 1/8 buggy right the first time without blowing the bank rebuying the right stuff.

Serum 08.15.2005 01:19 AM

What is your plan? you have got a buggy you want to convert to maxx or a maxx that needs a conversion to buggy - 5cm?

about the 23 mm adaptors; i don't know buggy rimms that have got the 23 mm hex. The alternative is called Komodo. (it are buggysized tires meant for Maxx sized rimms.)

If you go for a real BL setup, you need some cvd's and some aluminum to beef up your drivetrain.

Racing it on 12-14 cells makes it quick and nimble, the 9L or XL2800 wil do the job with pleasure.

About converting an emaxx to buggy, check the gorillamaxx low cg frames. They are what you are looking for.. Though i don't know what you wan't with the -5cm thing..

trailranger 08.15.2005 11:39 AM

I just did a quick comparision of my EMAXX to 1/8 buggy and its about 5cm short on wheelbase length, but the width seems to be dead on. I have till late September to commit to this conversion.

About the wheel converison, what would work best to be able to bolt on some pre mounted 1/8 buggy tires from proline.

coolhandcountry 08.15.2005 12:20 PM

They make a kit to make the hex a 17 mm ofna style. That would be good for wheels. Is the emaxx 5 cm short or the buggy has to be 5cm shorter.

coolhandcountry 08.15.2005 12:23 PM

I seen a site where they converted an emaxx to a buggy. I don't remember the size of the buggy. It looked awesome though when finished.

trailranger 08.15.2005 04:27 PM

Just the EMAXX is shorter than than 1/8 buggy.

I am a lil worried about the batteries sitting so high. Would be great if the Emaxx had a TUB chassis

Serum 08.15.2005 04:28 PM

get a gmaxx chassis.. And 40 series bowties.. It handles like a dream..

coolhandcountry 08.15.2005 04:40 PM

IF YOU NEED THE EMAXX 5CM LONGER THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM. I HAVE STRETCHED MIINE 2INCHES FORM GMAXX FORM. THE GMAXX IS 1/4 INCH LONGER THAN STOCK. IF YOU REALL CHOOSE TO BUILD YOU A BOTTOM PLATE TO YOUR OWN LENGTH. THAT WILL LOWER BATTS AND ALL DOWN. I CAN FIND THAT SITE IF NEED BE ON THAT BUGGY BUILD FROM EMAXX IF YOU NEED. GIVE YOU SOME MORE IDEAS. I HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU.

Serum 08.15.2005 04:46 PM

No need to scream coolhand...

;)

coolhandcountry 08.15.2005 04:51 PM

Sorry caps lock was on. Please forgive. Don't through me out. I need this place. :)

Dafni 08.15.2005 04:57 PM

I guess everybody here knows (remembers) The Jang's "Spyder" from URC. Amazing piece of work, especially if you consider it was done right after the EMaxx was released.

Coolhand, no worries, 50 push-ups will do!:L:

Serum 08.15.2005 05:03 PM

STRAIGHT BACK I SAID....

;)

coolhandcountry 08.15.2005 08:24 PM

Down and up x 50. :)

Serum 08.16.2005 01:12 PM

posted by Maxxcrazy
 
Buggies use 17mm hexes. I think ofna makes an adaptor.

CVD's and single speed are the way to go in the drivetrain. Make sure to used diff fluid too.

Use a buggy body. It would look weird with a truck body.

RC-Monster Mike 08.17.2005 10:25 PM

Maximiazer makes an adapter, and I carry them . I made an e-maxx similar to a 1/8 buggy a while back (yellow body with blue flames-seen as a truggy in the picture section). It worked quite well and looked a lot like a 1/8 buggy when it was done, though it handled better due to the wider suspension arms.

trailranger 08.17.2005 11:09 PM

Well I had my heart set on the Proline Crowd Pleaser truck body, but I guess a buggy is a buggy. My local shop said I can get panther tires that are very similar to buggy tires but no conversion needed. Hmmm, wider tires than buggy, but with same tread and sidewalls. Good short term fix, but I know if its a specail part now...it won't be in production later.

Push Ups? Are you army or core.....Im Army

nitrostarter 08.17.2005 11:22 PM

I think some Panther Komodo's would be best. They are very light and a bit shorter than the stock maxx tires. Pair them with some dish wheels and you got a great wheel setup.

RC-Monster Mike 08.17.2005 11:23 PM

The tires the LHS is speaking of are the panther komodos. I run them on my pede(and they are in stock on this site). They are slightly taller and slightly wider than a 1/8 buggy tire. Excellent for this type of truck to buggy conversion IMO.

trailranger 08.18.2005 11:26 AM

After hearing about the Panther LP Komodo Dragon tires....and personally seeing them on an EMAXX at my track, I was well surprized by how much the look and feel like 1/8 buggy. Only exception is, no wheel adaptors, just a lil taller and wider than 1/8 buggy, and the wheels I guess have been banned? in some MT events. As for tossing in my BL system into my EMAXX, I will hold off on that. I hear the diff won't last with too much power.

SO the BL goes back into my TC3. I just installed the NTC3 ATD outdrives, so no more melted plastic diff cups, no more mashed aluminum diff cups...its all steel!!!! Just wished I could find Ti....lighter and stonger. So now that my TC3 is stout for my BL....its back to 60mph on it with out the worries.

cabking 08.26.2005 03:52 AM

something like This mabey.

Although I'm not sure about the Nitro engine. :)

C.H.U.D. 08.26.2005 10:45 AM

Sounds like a fun project.

If you're really trying to make a Maxx "look" like a 1/8 buggy you'll need a buggy body (maybe the XTM XLB 1/7 body would fit better -> http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/149950.asp), OFNA 17mm adapters (http://www.ofna.com/tires-monster.html (scroll down)), 1/8 buggy wheels, and of course the 1/8 buggy spoiler.

I'd get the g-maxx extended chassis (for more 1/8th authenticity) and probably 12-14 cells. NiMH will work but of course LiPo is better (read: lighter). You can probably run a 2800XL w/ taller than stock gearing (1/8 wheels are small and light).

Use a soft spring to keep it low and supple. You'll wanna dump the chassis as low as a 1/8 buggy (they sit low and hit the ground on every bump and jump). W/ the smaller wheels you can make the chassis and arms "level" (should look authentic). Dimensionally it sounds like the wide maxx arms will give you proper width, but perhaps the "narrow" maxx arms would make it "look" a little more authentic. Buggy's have a wide pan and short control arms.

And if you want to run it as a monster truck I'd get the OFNA 17mm 3 splits and Panther Komodo's. You won't have to change the hubs, just leave the OFNA 17's on. Put on a heavier spring (more clearence, like a MT), and throw your truck body back on. Viola! Back to a monster truck.

trailranger 08.28.2005 02:15 PM

Works for me.....now I have to figure out my brushless motor controller issues. I rewired my MGM 8012 controller to have upright wires to fit nicely inside my TC3...and it killed the ECS chanel on the reciever with a voltage spike. I redid it again, now it functions but..the motor gets really hot and the shaft squeaks. I am thinking maybe since its pressed endcaps...they are now misalinged. But its work, and the army has me one way and college the other.


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