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New Quark ESCs in March!!
I Just called the USA Quark office and talked to someone there. They told me that the SSB-mk01, SSB-mk02 and SSB-mk03 will be availabe in the USA sometime in march. They are sensored and senorless ESCs capable of up to 6s and have a built in switching BEC. It also has a handheld programing device available, which to me is even better than the usb/pc thing. You can take it to the track without any hassle.
I dont know about you guys but that sounds pretty dang awsome. Thats the first ESC that I am aware of that will do sensored motors on 6s! Now we just need a sensored motor that can take 6s. lol Its hard to read the specs on this cuz they are all in korean with a little english mixed in, but the biggest one, the SSB-mk03 looks to be 120A continuous, so it would be similar to the 125B from a power handeling, but it has a normal heat sink on top so hopefully the heat issues are gone in this model. http://sky-technology.co.kr/ I cant figure out how to link directly to the page, but click this link and choose "KOREAN " go to the products page and the the ESCs page and you will see the SSB-mk0* line listed there. Its not listed on the English side of the site yet. OK... Now the downside. He wouldnt tell me an exact price, but it sounds like the big one of the line will be $300+ Not sure how something like this will compete with a MMM at 2/3 the price. But still for sure very cool to see more options comming out! Gotta love progress.:intello: |
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I want the "powercaps" wait...power pack. I like the packaging of the ESC.
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Check out the "box kit" at the bottom!
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Ah, Patrick mentioned this a couple monts back- they have been released in the land downunder (australia), and the price should be about $250-$300USD or so.
I wonder if its possible to re-wind a Novak HvMaxx motor, otherwise the Aveox models would be one rather expensive option too. |
dare i say it?:neutral:thats a damn sexy esc:yes:
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That programmer box looks slick.
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Did you see that 'Ultra-safe' thing too? Looks like a failsafe device with built-in user programmable low-voltage warning buzzer....
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Am I missing something? Are these controllers for 1/8 scale trucks and truggys or smaller 1/10 scale trucks like the Rustler?
In the link provided I think it says its a 1/10th controller? Would definately look nice on my maxx though :mdr: jordan |
100-120amps, upto 6s lipo (22.2v)....
I'd say very much for 1/10 to 1/8 scale vehicles- it is basically the successor to the MonsterPro esc, so it should be excellent. |
They look nice, but I have a feeling the price will keep them out of most folks vehicles. If the MMM actually debuts at the pricepoint they've stated in the past, ESC's like these will be hard to sell.
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I agree the price will be their challenge against a MMM. The only advantage I can see is the sensor mode. If there is a capable 4,5 or 6s sensored motor out there that setup might be able to give the ultimate control for racing. But to be honest the sensorless stuff is getting so good now I'm not really sure there is that much of an advantage to the sensors any more.
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I just love that there are no wires on the ESC!! The battery and motor connectors go straight into the ESC. :smile: And that hand held programmer i just too cool. But I have to agree with you guys on the price.... it will definitely be a little hard to sell if a MMM will be able to be gotten for $300 including a motor.
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The real question is: Can it really handle 6s?
The Monster 125B claims 6s as well, and we know how finicky that esc is on 6s. |
In this page http://www.quarkbrushless.com/recent2.htm I found:
Motor Limit: No limit (540 size Brushless & Brushed) |
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125B claims 125A, the new one claims 100A, dont think it will be for 1/8 trucks
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It looks to me that the SSB-mk01 is rated at 100A The SSB-mk03 is rated at 120A.
Technically Quark calls the 125B a 1/10 controller as well. I dont know for sure but it looks to me like it should at least be as capable as the 125B. Especially if they fixed the heat issues by putting a real heatsink on it. |
I own a SSB-mk2. I bought it october last year.
The manual says that it is for 1/10 scale cars and trucks. I find it very handy because it uses internal BEC to allow us to use mimh 8~18cell and 1~6 lithum cells without having to add UBEC. |
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And it has a heat sink built into it.
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How does it run in the emaxx?
What motor, battereis and gearing are you running? Any problems with it overheating like we have with the 125B? |
It seemed to run very well on a race track until I had a problem with the motor. I used a Feigao (I wasn't quite sure about the exact model of it because it came with the Gorillamaxx G2R chassis that I bought used. And I forgot to ask the person about it) on 14 cells (Maxamps 4200 Mi-mh). And the gearing that I used was the stock gearing of 68T spur and 19 pinion. It has a lot of neat functions. It provides 64 different settings of traction control and overdrive function which gives the motor very high output. There are 4 new brake modes with 100 steps in each mode including professional ABS brake, Artificial Intelligence automatic brake, and semi-auto brake. It also has 32 step voltage limit function and internal multi-protection function which allows us to check temperature, voltage, signal, motor mal-function, and setting. It seems to be more thoughtfully made than 125B because it has built-in heat sink and a fan. It basically runs cool.
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If you buy a SSB-mk01, you have to add UBEC.
But with SSB-mk02 and mk03, you don't have to. |
what about start up, is it smooth, worst or better than mamba max ?
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It's very smooth, but I don't know anything about mamba max since I've never used it before.
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Thanks for the info shawn, quark should hire you, as you have sold at least 10 of these escs by now.
Great info, really appreciate you posting that. I really like the quark escs, especially how they seem to be able to run any motor. |
Shawn live in seoul... I have tried to get one by myself few month ago, all website selling it are written in korean, I guess early product model were kept for internal market
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I think it will be out shortly in the US this Spring. I use it for my associated TC-4 touring and E-maxx. But I am thinking of getting a bigger and more capable ESC such as MGM compro, one that can handle extremely high voltage for my E-maxx. However, I think for racing purpose, I think it is one of the most intelligent and capable ESC out there.
And another thing I want to say is that get SSB-mk03 and it will work very well for your big truck purpose. |
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If you want to use sensored brushless motor with this ESC, all you have to do is to connect 3 wires without connecting the sensor wire. |
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Yea, the SSB-mk02 and 03 have built in switching BECs. I was thinking that Quark may have beaten CC to the punch as well. I still think that the price may be an issue for Quark if the ESC is truly in the $300 range when the MMM will be ESC and motor for the same price and specs that call out 1/8 applications. On the flip side I do like the quarks for their smooth throttle and brake. The sensored capability really could possibly open up some options. I'd really like to see a big motor run on sensored mode for the ultimate in control. Now if somone would just make one. lol It could be very interesting. Ive been saving my pennys for 2 MMMs next month. Maybe instead of 2 MMMs I'll have to try one MMM and one SSB-mk03. :yes: |
What about Max-Cim motors or have they gone out of business with the sensorless revolution? I remember seeing them a lot at the beginning of the BL era, when it seemed to be just them and Aveo, they had some 20 capable cell 36mm motors in the range but the ESCs where extortionately expensive, maybe thier motors could be what your looking for.
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I found the ESC on a couple of websites. Of course, they are all in Korean. I used a currency calculator and it looks like it retails for about $320.00 or roughly 298,000 won. I will probably pick one up as soon it is released here.
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I want to say something about the pricing. If Quark sells a product in the us for $275, they sell it for 275,000 won. So basically, what I'm saying is that the currency calculator won't work for the Quark products. They will simply match the numbers. This explanation is out of my experience. And I am pretty sure that the most expensive model of SSB-mk series which is SSB-mkIII will sell for less than $300. And that's for the combo which include the program box. I want to add that it is simply the most capable and intelligent BL ESC in the market period. I am sure that there will be so my winners of major racing events of the world who use Quark SSB-mkIII. I am that confident about this product. But for you monster truck lovers including me will have to buy SSB-mkIII. mkII and I won't be that impressive in spite of all the amazing functions that they have. |
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Lets hope you are right about that price. I could swallow that. The same price as the 125B but more capabilities and the programing box.:yes: |
Someone mention Max-cim? I found that they do still have a website, and a UK dealer too.... only trouble is the motors come in two flavours- 1450kv and 2500kv (not so bad really), but they cost £160 each.... ouch.
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I would say the SSB mk03 combo version will sell for less than a 125B in the U.S. 125B's were $400 AUS at my lhs, but the mko3 with program box was $340 AUS when I looked at them a couple of months ago.
A guy at racing used one in his Kyosho ST-R truggy with a plettenburg maximum with fan and 2 trackpower 4900's (4s) for a month or two, but last race meet he burnt it out during practice, and he left before I got a chance to ask him more about it. Another guy that I haven't seen for about 2 months tried one in his losi 8t with I think a 7xl on 6s just for testing, but I'm not certain. He hasn't raced with it, because he couldn't get it to work with his align 600xl. |
hey Patrick, just out of curiosity, which LHS do you think is the best in Perth?
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