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83gt 03.26.2008 08:37 AM

Medusa Afterburner V2 BL motors
 
Hey! Anyone had a gander at these ? I saw a short review posted over at e-savage.com. Looked pretty good! 4 pole design, vented endbell, 60k RPM max. Pretty good price range too.

http://www.medusaproducts.com/motors/036-V2.htm

_paralyzed_ 03.26.2008 09:02 AM

got a link to the e-savage review?

83gt 03.26.2008 09:09 AM

sure, it's not much though...

http://www.e-savage.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2648

J.

_paralyzed_ 03.26.2008 09:59 AM

thank you kind sir

TexasSP 03.26.2008 10:03 AM

Looks interesting enough. The prices are certainly conducive for some testing. I am tempted to check one out.

_paralyzed_ 03.26.2008 10:06 AM

and thanks again, I had been looking for an inexpensive 4 pole motor, you just made my day!

BrianG 03.26.2008 10:09 AM

Looks good for lower-powered setups that would call for the equivalent of an S or maybe an L size motor. I might try a MR-036-050-4800V2-5 in my crt.5...

83gt 03.26.2008 10:26 AM

I was thinking of the 36/60/2000 for a revo. not in stock at the moment though.

_paralyzed_ 03.26.2008 10:34 AM

yep, 2000's are at a stock of negative 2. I e-mailed medusa for availability. I read the motor reviews from their site and a t-rex helicopter pilot put quite a few motors through some very extensive scientific type testing(removing as many variables as possible and noting where he wasn;t able to) He found the medusa more powerful than megas or even neus, he stated the medeusa was the most powerful motor he had tested, the neu was more efficient. He tested aligns, neus, megas, aons, and some others I forgot, the guy on e-savage likens the 60mm motor to a neu 1512, looks like some good motors

_paralyzed_ 03.26.2008 01:40 PM

2-3 weeks till the motors are in

83gt 03.26.2008 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 157922)
2-3 weeks till the motors are in

that'll probably work out fine with my budget, lol. Sucks for me, my 8xl grenaded last weekend. The rotor split right in half. I need something badly! I traded for a 9xl that should be here around friday. That should hold me over.

the really crappy part is the 8xl took my 125b with it. Now I'm down to just the bk 9920, and I doubt it will play well with the 4 pole V2 motors.

J.

MTBikerTim 03.26.2008 05:43 PM

Do they have anything that could push a 1/8th savage? :whistle:. They look like good motors though and reasonably priced.

suicideneil 03.26.2008 07:29 PM

Interesting line up. I would like to see a longer can than 60mm, but given the most suitable version they sell is the 36-60-2000kv which generates 900+watts, it would still be nearlt twice as powerful as my hvmaxx.

lincpimp 03.26.2008 07:57 PM

The 60mm cans look like good 1/8 buggy motors. I may have to get the 1600kv version and try it out in the hyper8 on 6s and see how it does.

_paralyzed_ 03.26.2008 08:00 PM

yeah, you prolly need another motor........................................

MTBikerTim 03.26.2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 158035)
yeah, you prolly need another motor........................................

:lol:

Five-oh-joe 03.27.2008 05:57 PM

I just ordered a 36x50mm V2 afterburner 4800kv motor with the bonded heatsink for $118.55 shipped direct from Medusa Research to use in my Rustler (I would have gotten the one without the fins, but it wasn't in stock). I'm having it shipped home since I only have 4 weeks left up here at school. I'll let you guys know how it goes for 1/10 applications (hopefully I'll remember to post....:D).

lutach 03.27.2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe (Post 158328)
I just ordered a 36x50mm V2 afterburner 4800kv motor with the bonded heatsink for $118.55 shipped direct from Medusa Research to use in my Rustler (I would have gotten the one without the fins, but it wasn't in stock). I'm having it shipped home since I only have 4 weeks left up here at school. I'll let you guys know how it goes for 1/10 applications (hopefully I'll remember to post....:D).

Let us know how good the motor is.

Five-oh-joe 03.27.2008 06:03 PM

No problem. It'll be going into a Rustler and running off of a Trinity 4500 lipo when I get home. This won't be for about a month though (finals aren't until the last week of april). The only motors I have to compare it to are my Feigao 540 8s, the 5700 castle motor, and the Novak SS5800 motor w/ sintered rotor.

lincpimp 03.28.2008 12:19 AM

Well, given its size and claims, it should be quite a step up from the feigao 540 s can. I may try one of the 60mm 1600kv models for an 1/8 buggy. If it is half as good as they say it will be a good step up from a feigao, and not far from a hacker c50 or aveox 36series l can.

ren 03.28.2008 02:20 AM

These look to be decent motors. I found this article intresting.
http://www.flyupyours.com/heli/dpr/neuvsmedusa4s.htm.
It is comparing Medusa to Neu.

glassdoctor 03.28.2008 03:08 AM

Interesting finds. It would be nice to have something in between a Neu and Feigao in price and performance.

The comparison Neu vs. Medusa.... ^^^ the guy says he gives a slight edge to the Medusa, but I think he's on crack (or a paycheck from Medusa :lol:) because they have basicly identical performance but the Neu ran much cooler and pulled less amps. And that was after logging almost twice the "runtime" in mah according to the graphs. So it looks to me like the Neu was clearly the more efficient superior motor. :na:

Having said that... I definitely want to try a 36-60 motor. Or at least get a full scoop by someone else who can compare vs. Feigao and/or Neu

Five-oh-joe 03.28.2008 09:04 AM

Well, just got an email from Medusa saying my order has been delayed. I'm guessing it has to do with the 4800 kv 50mm long motor (ordered that motor, but with the heatsink on it). Guess they're outta stock then eh?:whip:

_paralyzed_ 03.28.2008 10:33 AM

five o, you dont want the finned can, it wont fit on the rustler, their fins stick way out, consider this delay a blessing

Five-oh-joe 03.28.2008 11:23 AM

They stick out that far? I dremeled the crap out of my tranny case so that heatsinks will fit on my Castle Creations 5700 motor (the same heatsink that Tamiya sells for the TT-01). That fit just fine.

Hmmm... When I tried to add the smooth can 4800kv motor to my cart on their site, they said it was out of stock, and that's it. Couldn't backorder it or anything through the site.

I kinda want the 4800 too, since I don't run more than 2s lipo (at least for now).

The site said the heatsink is bonded on, not built into the case like a Neu. Think I could remove it if the need arose? At the very worst, I suppose I could dremel the fins down some too.

Thanks for the heads up paralyzed. I think I will try it out with my dremeled up transmission first, and if there is still clearance issues, then I'll see if I can remove the heatsink or dremel it (or parts of the transmission housing) down where I'm having problems. Alternatively, I could try to return it I suppose in exchange for the smooth can. Being that I live in Florida, heatsinks are my friend (and is the reason why I chose the finned version).:intello:

Also forgot to mention; on the "customer comments" section of my order, I put down that it's going into a Traxxas Rustler (if that means anything to them, I dunno!). Maybe they'll notify me of something. I'll also just try a big pinion to help keep the motor as far away from the tranny as possible...:D

ren 03.28.2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassdoctor (Post 158477)
Interesting finds. It would be nice to have something in between a Neu and Feigao in price and performance.

The comparison Neu vs. Medusa.... ^^^ the guy says he gives a slight edge to the Medusa, but I think he's on crack (or a paycheck from Medusa :lol:) because they have basicly identical performance but the Neu ran much cooler and pulled less amps. And that was after logging almost twice the "runtime" in mah according to the graphs. So it looks to me like the Neu was clearly the more efficient superior motor. :na:

Having said that... I definitely want to try a 36-60 motor. Or at least get a full scoop by someone else who can compare vs. Feigao and/or Neu

Yea, I still believe that Nue is far superior, but these seem to give good performance with slightly higher amp draw (and a lower price tag). Seems good for applications where power trumps runtime. Their 28-32 motors look like a good candidate for a vendetta st to me.

_paralyzed_ 03.28.2008 06:20 PM

five-o- please look farther into the medusa site, there are pictures of the finned motors the fins are all the way around the can and protrude what looks to be 3/4 of an inch, you are really better off getting a smooth can, you'd really have to hack it up to get it to fit, remember, these are built to hang in helicopters, rustlers never entered their mind.

Five-oh-joe 03.28.2008 06:23 PM

Awww.....but the heatsink is so pretty.... It's an extra .5" in diameter with the heatsink btw. So .25" on any given side.

I'll email them and see what they can do.

Sent them an email, asking if I can just backorder the motor without the heatsink. We'll see if they reply....(hopefully they do; the more that I think about it, I don't really need the heatsink if these things are THAT much more efficient than a feigao or castle motor).

lincpimp 03.28.2008 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 158035)
yeah, you prolly need another motor........................................

You are correct sir, need to make an even 100! I did have a look at all of my motors recently and they seem to be multiplying! I may have to have another sale!

_paralyzed_ 03.28.2008 07:33 PM

i need a 4 pole................

Five-oh-joe 03.31.2008 11:12 AM

Ok, just called Medusa Research about 20 seconds ago about my motor with the heatsink. They already glued the heatsink on to the motor (I ordered it Thursday evening, they did it Friday), but are going to pop it off for me, and ship the motor and heatsink to me anyway. So I will get the heatsink and the motor separately as opposed to the heatsink being attached.

Turns out I beat the nice lady who answered the phone to the punch though. They were going to actually call me about the email I sent them and explain to me what was going to happen instead of emailing me back! She also said the motor is shipping out today, so another huge plus in my book. She told me exactly what the deal was, and that's that.

So far, I have to give Medusa an A+++ on the customer service. Easy, painless, and very very nice people to deal with.

I'll let you guys know in a month how the motor performs.

Edit: Forgot to ask you guys something. I'm looking at another 2s lipo in the future. I've read that flightpowers are awesome and I am considering a 2s 4900mah pack (not the trakpower hard case though), but how are the neu energy 2s 5000mah 25C packs that Mike has in the store? Are they a true 25C pack? I've bought from him before (some steel parts for my Rustler like the diff and idler), and had a very good experience (therefore, it would be nice to purchase through him versus tower or some other place). Thanks! This motor's max current specs made me think about whether or not my 4500mah Trinity lipo will be up to it for a very long while.

lincpimp 03.31.2008 11:53 AM

The neuenergy lipos are the smae cells as the flightpower, both are enerland. I have a neu 5000 3s pack and it is very nice.

lutach 03.31.2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe (Post 159215)
Ok, just called Medusa Research about 20 seconds ago about my motor with the heatsink. They already glued the heatsink on to the motor (I ordered it Thursday evening, they did it Friday), but are going to pop it off for me, and ship the motor and heatsink to me anyway. So I will get the heatsink and the motor separately as opposed to the heatsink being attached.

Turns out I beat the nice lady who answered the phone to the punch though. They were going to actually call me about the email I sent them and explain to me what was going to happen instead of emailing me back! She also said the motor is shipping out today, so another huge plus in my book. She told me exactly what the deal was, and that's that.

So far, I have to give Medusa an A+++ on the customer service. Easy, painless, and very very nice people to deal with.

I'll let you guys know in a month how the motor performs.

Edit: Forgot to ask you guys something. I'm looking at another 2s lipo in the future. I've read that flightpowers are awesome and I am considering a 2s 4900mah pack (not the trakpower hard case though), but how are the neu energy 2s 5000mah 25C packs that Mike has in the store? Are they a true 25C pack? I've bought from him before (some steel parts for my Rustler like the diff and idler), and had a very good experience (therefore, it would be nice to purchase through him versus tower or some other place). Thanks! This motor's max current specs made me think about whether or not my 4500mah Trinity lipo will be up to it for a very long while.

Neu Energy uses cells from Enerland just like Flight Power, so it will do the job.

Five-oh-joe 03.31.2008 03:47 PM

Awesome! Thanks guys. I was not aware that the Neu Energy packs used the enerland cells. Around 95 bucks isn't a bad price for a 2s 5000mah 25C pack.

lincpimp 03.31.2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Five-oh-joe (Post 159269)
Awesome! Thanks guys. I was not aware that the Neu Energy packs used the enerland cells. Around 95 bucks isn't a bad price for a 2s 5000mah 25C pack.

It is a great deal, well worth it too!

Five-oh-joe 03.31.2008 04:37 PM

Yeah. I'm kicking myself in the pants, because I bought this Trinity Lipo last year for 85 bucks plus shipping. The Neu packs are only 10 bucks more and have better specs (20C 4500 vs. 25C 5000). Damn.:(

Hopefully I have some money left over from my summer job this year to splurge a little (gotta save up a ton of gas and food money for next year since I can't work during the school year).

Buzzsaw46 04.03.2008 01:50 PM

I just ordered a 36-50-3300v2 for my HPI NMT, I have an Ammo 36-50-3300 now. Should be fun to see how they do head to head.

I checked Medusa out before I saw this thread and had blown them off as too small for the 3905 maxx I've been working on, after reading the thread linked in the begining I decided to get an upgrade for the NMT.

I have been running the Ammo in my maxx on 5s2p A123. Power wise it's great on a 14T pinion, but it's running quite hot so I just ordered a 6xl for it but I do still want to try the Medusa just to see how it does on the larger truck.

Still wish Medusa had either a longer version or a higher KV on the 36-60.

BTW 5 0 Joe, dont get to bumed out when new better packs come out a few months after you buy some. Happens all the time, if you wait for the latest and greatest you'll find yourself waiting and not driving.

Are there any other midrange motors in the $120-$170 price range. I looked around last weekend but really didnt find anything but Medusa and Mega. Neither had anything that really turned my crank for a big truck on 5s a123.

Five-oh-joe 04.03.2008 02:12 PM

I know what you mean buzzsaw. Whenever I buy something new, its upgrade/replacement always comes out. I've learned to accept it.... LOL! I figure I'll let the Trinity die on me first; then I'll get the Neu Energy pack:mdr:. I REALLY need to stop buying stuff....haha!

Looks like you'll get a chance to test the motor before I get to; lemme know how it goes. I got the 4800 kv 50mm long V2 for my Rustler....:D I think the 60mm motors would move your emaxx quite well; especially since it's going through a transmission and not a center diff (plus you'll be using 5s A123). That's my opinion; I don't know how powerful these motors are yet though.:mdr:

Buzzsaw46 04.03.2008 02:16 PM

I'll put up some eagle trees of the Ammo and Medusa possibly this weekend. With the specs so close for these two motors it should be interesting!

Five-oh-joe 04.03.2008 02:57 PM

Indeed. I bet the medusa blows the ammo away though. From the few other reviews and graphs I've seen, it's a pretty nasty motor line (amp hungry though).


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