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superfreak 09.11.2005 12:59 AM

Savage BL motor mounts...
 
Hey all, just wondering if anybody would be willing to make me up a motor mount to bolt a brushless motor into my Savvy for a set price?

I would be running a 8L motor. Any help would be appreciated.;)

Thanks

MetalMan 09.11.2005 01:37 AM

If I had the dimensions, I could do it.

Have you ordered the 8L yet? If you haven't, I would reccommend a different motor, as the 8L will get pretty hot in a Savage.

Serum 09.11.2005 03:51 AM

On how many cells would you like to run your savage? somewhere in one Savage thread on this forum is a drawing of that motorplate.

for a savage the 8L would not be my choice either, the best motor you can use is the 7XL, on 14-18 cells but it even would perform verry good on 12 cells. Talk about one wide range motor.. ;)

mothman 09.11.2005 04:56 AM

Metalman im very interested with the motormount too.. Im not good in machining plus I dont really have the proper tools. Let me know if you are going to make them..

MetalMan 09.11.2005 09:42 AM

I don't have a Savage to experiment with. If I had one, then I might be able to make a mount. So, if anyone wants to give me their Savage, I will be happy to take it :).

coolhandcountry 09.11.2005 09:45 AM

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...k&pagenumber=4
Here is the thread mothman. I has diagram and the site emachine shop. Hope this helps you. Thank serum for the info. I just the man point you there. :)

Serum 09.11.2005 09:48 AM

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/atta...=&postid=14311

here it is, just check some posts about the BL savage, if you have got any questions about it, feel free to ask!

Thanks Coolhand!

toby 09.11.2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serum
On how many cells would you like to run your savage? somewhere in one Savage thread on this forum is a drawing of that motorplate.

for a savage the 8L would not be my choice either, the best motor you can use is the 7XL, on 14-18 cells but it even would perform verry good on 12 cells. Talk about one wide range motor.. ;)

14 cells? serum have you ever clocked your savage with 16 cells? how fast did it go if you did

Serum 09.11.2005 01:23 PM

I'm running it with 16 cells (the movie was with the plettenberg) but i am going to get a savage with 20 cells and a 8XL (with a horizontal frame instead of vertical)

toby 09.11.2005 01:31 PM

what motor are you running rigt now? do you not have a BL savage at the moment?

Serum 09.11.2005 02:18 PM

I am currently working on one (i am planning on buying a 2nd savage) here are a few pics of the one i am currently working on; (perhaps i am going to sell it with a K4,6 motor)

here is my current one;

http://www.serum.demon.nl/NewBorn/MKII/1.JPG


http://www.serum.demon.nl/NewBorn/MKII/2.JPG


http://www.serum.demon.nl/NewBorn/MKII/3.JPG

toby 09.11.2005 02:22 PM

OMG that is fricken amazing. I want my truc kto look like that, What Namebrand are all them peices? THAT IS AWESOME. OMG

mothman 09.11.2005 02:24 PM

Serum, where's the motor mount?? R u planning to sell it too?? Hehe Im very interested..

mothman 09.11.2005 02:30 PM

Toby the aluminum parts are from FLM-FastLaneMachines. Awesome products. Mike can get them for you..

Serum 09.11.2005 02:32 PM

the knuckles/c-hubs are Newera, upperarms, lowers TVP's and shocktowers are FLM, diffcases are GPM, Dynamyte bulkheads, superstrong diffs (home made modifications with HB cups) and HB cvd's around. UE shocks

Mothman. I was thinking about buying a K4,6 and use that motor for this savage. (nitro) i wanted to drop a 7XL and 16 cells in it.. Who knows, my girl doesn't want me to have 4 cars.. (perhaps i'll take her out for diner sometime again..) ;)

mothman 09.11.2005 02:36 PM

:L: ..ok ok.. but if you plan to sell it, then let me know.. Still trying to negotiate with someone to help me to fabricate the motor mount like the one joeling posted.

toby 09.11.2005 03:07 PM

any idea how fast a 7xl and 16 cells would go?

Serum 09.11.2005 03:13 PM

45 mph should be no problem.. (with good cells)

toby 09.11.2005 03:15 PM

which cells would you run man? I might not be so nit picky about waiting to sell stuff. i might ordered all my arms not sure yet though. i might ask for stuff for an early birthday present too

Serum 09.11.2005 03:22 PM

GP3300/IB3800 matched/pushed..

toby 09.11.2005 03:24 PM

i was thinking of gp3300 matched. just searching for best prices. think i am going to get them custom made by www.cheapbatterypacks.com

Serum 09.11.2005 03:35 PM

Mike can get you the IB3800's for a nice price as well.. They are slightly better than the 3300's..

toby 09.11.2005 03:37 PM

are they bigger though? i wanna run the best batteries for a decent price. i cannot make my own packs and i want them to be nice and clean looking like yours on your website

Serum 09.11.2005 03:40 PM

Mike can do that..

toby 09.11.2005 03:41 PM

ok, i will PM him about it. so those are the best batteries for my motor to run on.. i will go for that then

superfreak 09.12.2005 05:41 AM

Thanks for the replies. I'm not selecting the 8L, it's coming with this RC lot deal. It should be enough untill I get the moolah to upgrade to a better motor.

Nice truck Serum! FLM gear is cool hey. :) Are you getting skid plates? If not, what will be holding the hinge pins in? Or protecting the diffs?

Also just on that motor mount design on the other page...was it hard to make/take long? Does it fit well? Does it hold up/work well?

Just a few general questions...should the stock mechanical brake setup be removed or better kept? What are the benifits of running or not running it?

I have a few more questions which I'll ask later. Thanks.

coolhandcountry 09.12.2005 08:15 AM

If you run the two speed super freak. You will need the brake. If you run the single locked tranny and the brake it will be just easier on contoller. I hope this helps some.

toby 09.12.2005 02:59 PM

i still do not completley understand. if i lock out first so all i have is second. do i still neeed a servo for braking?

Serum 09.12.2005 03:05 PM

no, with a lock you don't need the brake.

@freak;

i made my own skidplate, i use titanium hingepins, with e-clips. the upper pins are held in place with a well placed little screw.. ;)

danhfvcsd 09.12.2005 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by coolhandcountry
If you run the two speed super freak. You will need the brake. If you run the single locked tranny and the brake it will be just easier on contoller. I hope this helps some.
I'm not very familiar with the savage, but i live about an hour away from Superfreak, so plan to convert one also later on...

hmm - about the locked gear thing....
I have heard of some ppl locking out 1st and others locking out 2nd... - does this just depend on the elec setup (motor/esc/batts) you are running as to which gear (1st or 2nd) you will run the truck in?

Wouldn't the motor have to work harder down in low speeds if you were to lock OUT 1st and run only IN 2nd?

Is there any reason you wouldn't just keep the 2speed as it is? Could it be done without worries, or would it just hinder performance?

Is reverse an option at all in this truck?

thanks fellas :)

mothman 09.12.2005 09:26 PM

danhfvcsd, I would like to know the same thing. I find it hard to lower the battery mount. So that means I would not be able to use the mechanical break.

And can someone tell me the proper way to lock the gear? Sorry for this stupid question but I've no idea at all.

superfreak 09.12.2005 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by danhfvcsd
I'm not very familiar with the savage, but i live about an hour away from Superfreak, so plan to convert one also later on...

hmm - about the locked gear thing....
I have heard of some ppl locking out 1st and others locking out 2nd... - does this just depend on the elec setup (motor/esc/batts) you are running as to which gear (1st or 2nd) you will run the truck in?

Wouldn't the motor have to work harder down in low speeds if you were to lock OUT 1st and run only IN 2nd?

Is there any reason you wouldn't just keep the 2speed as it is? Could it be done without worries, or would it just hinder performance?

Is reverse an option at all in this truck?

thanks fellas :)

They were my other questions to come. :D Or would it be worthwhile doing some custom work and running a single buggy center diff?

mothman 09.12.2005 11:02 PM

Running center diffs is great but for ppl who dont really have machining skills and tools like me, it would be just a dream. Or maybe its just me..

toby 09.13.2005 07:04 PM

i think i might try and run reverse on mine because i use it sometimes (when i am at the future hobby show demO)

danhfvcsd 09.13.2005 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by toby
i think i might try and run reverse on mine because i use it sometimes (when i am at the future hobby show demO)
Please excuse me if i'm asking blatently dumb questions here - but as i said earlier, i'm not all that familiar with the savage.....

Would you be running reverse with the 2speed or would you be locking in a single gear?

I have also heard of a 'Reverse kit' kinda thing available for savage - would you be using this item, or would you be using the reverse/brakes of the controller/motor?


hang on - a better question here would be - How would you be setting up the transmission for using reverse? As in - servo brakes with reverse module? Or like - single locked gear with reverse/brakes of esc/motor?

(I hope that's a better question! -lol-)

toby 09.13.2005 08:51 PM

i am not sure yet, all i know is i am locking out first. i might not use reverse

mothman 09.13.2005 08:58 PM

Toby what is the proper way to lock the 1st or 2nd gear??

danhfvcsd 09.13.2005 09:40 PM

hmmm - just a quick queiry on reverse.....

with the reverse module that is available, how does it engage reverse?
As in - it it similar to the LST's tranny? where a servo moves an arm to shift something inside the tranny to engage reverse? So that the motor spins the same way for forwards, AND reverse....i would assume this is how it must be done, as nitros don't spin in reverse -lol-

Therefor - you have 2 options?....

option 1 - keeping the 2speed as it is with the reverse module installed?

option 2 - locking out either first or second - but does this mean that reverse now much be used with the esc/motor orrrrr.....?

Sorry for all the questions, but would appreciate as much feedback as possible :)

superfreak 09.14.2005 04:00 AM

Yeah the reverse is a optional module installed into the tranny. It runs off a 3rd channel and servo.

Should try asking one question and waiting untill a reply to ask another one because there are a lot of unanswered questions.

Serum 09.14.2005 12:08 PM

okay, this here are some facts;

the conversion includes a 1 speed shaft, it is locked in 1st gear, and you can brake on the motor. (and drive backwards as well) with a few mods, you can lock it in 2nd.

You can use the standard transmission, (2speed) with a Y-cable you can split the speedo and the brake servo. (make sure the reverse on your esc is disabled) the motor is no longer able to slow down the vehicle, because of the one way bearings that are in the transmission.

You can also add the reverse module with the last cald option, not needed for the BL conversion..

If you have got any other q's feel free to ask them..


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