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TDC57 05.24.2008 06:24 AM

Step-by-step building the X-Ray (E) 808 Buggy!..
 
Good evening gentlemen,
I just thought I would share with you my building experience associated with my 808. With that said I've been taking a few pics of my build along the way and thought I'd try my best to document it and share the experience / moments with you (MY FRIENDS!!)!. Please feel free to forwards all comment, or if you have any pointers that I've missed along the way that could also help our fellow family members in the future.

Opening the box. (First impressions) Daaammmm… (I love the smell of new parts in the evening!)..


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Here is what all of the parts look like all laid out. (This is going to require some thought!) I may have to actually read the instructions (NNnnnaaaa..).. I’ll just wing it for now..


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Well lets get started shall we.. I think I will start with the Diffs and a screwdriver! (What??) 
For starters I'm using the following fluids for the diff’s (5000 in the front & centers and 3000 in the rear) I'm also using a mixture of 60% Kettle one with 40% orange juice for the screwdriver..
I'm also going to (lightly sand down the tops of the diffs to ensure that they won’t leak. (Lightly is the key word here gents), just enough to take the shine off them to ensure that there are no high spots.


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TDC57 05.24.2008 06:25 AM

Good news!.. These bad boys go together like the one’s I'm using on my GR3 & G3 / the ones Mike sells in his hybrid diff’s kits.. (no worries)..


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Well here are the diffs all completed and turning smooth… time for a refill and the next step…


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Here is a part that I hate doing, but since I'm killing brain cells tonight I thought I might as well continue down that process. I’ve decided to seal all of the carbon fiber edges. (Good times) NOT!.. I'm just using my trusty cotton swabs, some CA glue and rubber gloves. I'm using the cotton swabs to ensure that I apply the correct amount and obtain the proper coverage throughout all of the edges..



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TDC57 05.24.2008 06:26 AM

Ok, all of the CF parts are done (nice and shinny!) OOooo shiny edges!!!, It’s time for another re-fill and lets move on to the…….. HUBS… sure why not!?. Well after a quick glance at the manual (yes I opened it!) I need to do the front transmission now!. Wow this detailed, better review the manual for a while to ensure proper installation techniques are used..


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Ok were making some progress now!, let’s see next I’ll install the A-Arms for the rear suspension, better do another refill while I'm at it.. Here the setup in it laid out format.. (Rear) Oooo the rear sway bar is included so I guess this will be going on as well..


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TDC57 05.24.2008 06:27 AM

Ok the A-Arms are installed now lets move on the rear drive train and the wing mount.. Dang there are lot of parts in this bag and it’s getting late wish me luck.. better have one more re-fill for the road.


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Ok the rear suspension is complete..


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I'm going to bed.. thanks for looking and please feel free to leave any and all comments that arise during your review..

Have a great one team..

Shaun.

xcntrk 05.24.2008 07:46 AM

Looks like a fun build!

What motor/electronics setup you plan to run?

It’s not going to see any stinky nitro is it? :gasp:

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.24.2008 06:36 PM

Coming along very nice :party:

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.24.2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcntrk (Post 176206)
Looks like a fun build!

What motor/electronics setup you plan to run?

It’s not going to see any stinky nitro is it? :gasp:

RC-Monster Motor Mount & Battery Tray Kit, RCM 15T Mod 1 Pinion, Apache 5s 18.5v 3700mAH Lipo, Neu 1515 1.5ys & MMM ESC :yipi:

jayjay283 05.24.2008 08:43 PM

Shaun ! Love the 808 supposed to be real nicely built and no fab assembly, the Bently of buggys. Great build coming along nicely and quickly, thanks to mr K1, love the narration lol. I bought a losi 8 truggy from Amain.com tuesday (not here yet) it was that or the Xray xt8, wifey made the call 'cuz I was always saying I want an 8ight. Im always doing stuff a few days after you unplanned, classic (vtwin). What pinion are you going to use ? Looks like im going 60+ with the losi, 1515/1y & 5s unless I put a 2 tooth pinion on it. Something must be wrong. Look forward to see the rest !
Jay

TDC57 05.25.2008 01:43 AM

Thanks for your time guys..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xcntrk (Post 176206)
Looks like a fun build!

What motor/electronics setup you plan to run?

It’s not going to see any stinky nitro is it? :gasp:


Good evening xcntrk.. Thanks it’s been a blast so far and a tremendous learning experience (I love to learn).. Nitro!! (NNNNnnnoooo) that stuff will never touch my builds, I'm going to the use a Neu 1515 1.5ys my MMM or a MGM controller I just bought (which ever comes first) and a 5s Lipo I ordered form Mike last week.

Thanks for your comments and have a great one..

Shaun.



Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY
Coming along very nice

Hay Drift Buggy!!! (what’s happen Sir??).. Thanks for the comments, I do like your new avatar!! I saw the video on you tube, Is that your BAD BOY???

How is your Losi 8 coming along?? Got any pictures, that a awesome truck, I'm looking forward to reading your review..

Thanks for stopping buy and kind words, have a great one..

Shaun


Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283
Shaun ! Love the 808 supposed to be real nicely built and no fab assembly, the Bently of buggys. Great build coming along nicely and quickly, thanks to mr K1, love the narration lol. I bought a losi 8 truggy from Amain.com tuesday (not here yet) it was that or the Xray xt8, wifey made the call 'cuz I was always saying I want an 8ight. Im always doing stuff a few days after you unplanned, classic (vtwin). What pinion are you going to use ? Looks like im going 60+ with the losi, 1515/1y & 5s unless I put a 2 tooth pinion on it. Something must be wrong. Look forward to see the rest !
Jay


JayJay.. The man the myth the legend.. How it haggen sir??. Always a pleasure to hear from you!, I'm glad you like the build so-far, you know me K1.. we always work hand in hand on all my builds.. hhheee hheee..

Hay congrads on your Losi 8 purchase, that one awesome truck, I’ll be keeping an eye out your thoughts and updates.. Amain is a great place to shop, they have a lot of selection and are really quick on their turnaround times.. (MUCH LIKE MONSTER!!) Mike is the still the family favorite thou.. I like your comment regarding you and me are always a few days apart on our builds, (Great minds think alike)… Your going to gear your bad boy for 60+?? That’s moving for a buggy!, our V-Twin now that’s one thing but a buggy, Best of luck to you!, I'm thinking of gearing mine for about 45, with the almost the identical components we’ll see, but then again you’re a better man than I..

Have a great one Sir and thanks for stopping buy.. be sure to post some pics of your bad Ass (8) when you get it!..

Shaun.

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.25.2008 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDC57 (Post 176385)
Hay Drift Buggy!!! (what’s happen Sir??).. Thanks for the comments, I do like your new avatar!! I saw the video on you tube, Is that your BAD BOY???

How is your Losi 8 coming along?? Got any pictures, that a awesome truck, I'm looking forward to reading your review..

Thanks for stopping buy and kind words, have a great one..

Shaun

No the EMAXX isn't mine, one of the guys from RC Car Action built it up. There is also a small preview on XXX Main 3 DVD of it.
Losi 8 is coming along slow (mainly because in in Australia) probably be around 3 - 4 weeks before I got it going

TDC57 05.25.2008 05:34 AM

Well after a nasty hangover and several aspirins latter it time to move onward and forward with the project. It time to start the front suspension, better crack open a bottle of wine it’s going to be a long night, tonight’s selections of brain altering substances will be played by a 2002 Chalone Vineyard Pinot Noir, with a 14.2% ahl content. Wine spectator rates this at 97 points. Well that’s enough of the culture hour, lets move on the build shall we..


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Here is the front suspension laid out and OOOoo goodie I get to install the front sway bar..


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TDC57 05.25.2008 05:34 AM

Ok that was easy, now it time for the front drive train again lots of parts and yes I'm reviewing the manual for reference. (Lets see insert slot A into tab b, over the line C, GOT IT!)..


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Ok, the glass is empty and the front suspension is all done, time for another re-fill and some more pictures..


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Cool, the wine and I starting to kick some butt now, here are some shoots of the front and rear suspensions all completed, I was extremely impressed with the quality of everything so far, X-Ray molds and pieces are far superior to any other plastic parts I’ve have ever worked with to-date. Can wait to see how it looks when it’s all complete..


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TDC57 05.25.2008 05:35 AM

Ok, now were moving along now at a nice and steady pace.. Now the real fun gets to start, it looks like I can finally start messing with the chassis.. I’ll be installing the front & rear ends and the support bracket, better top off the glass for this one..


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Ok the front and rear drive train is installed but something is wrong??. What is this “droop” thing??, I set my Digital caliper @ 4mm for the rear and 2mm for the front and it just looks / feels wrong!! Any thoughts / suggestions gentlemen??.. and yes NOTE the totally awesome (spare no expense) stand that I continue to use….


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TDC57 05.25.2008 05:37 AM

Well with the initial drive train installed and the first bottle gone, it’s now time to start the installation of my steering and open another bottle, I’ll be finishing up the night with a Meridian Pinot Noir @ 13.8% and I’ve got Chuck Berry (Johnny be good) playing in the back ground.. Life is good..


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Wow… That took forever to get it right!! You will want to measure the bolts for accuracy at this phase moving forward. Eyeing them just doesn’t work.. Trust me!!!… This is where we stand after 9hrs of forward progress. FYI… (I'm craving a breakfast burrito from Jack in the box) Dam there closed!!!!


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So here we are another 5hrs into the build and we’ve completed the following:
• Front and rear drive train and suspension installation
• Installation of the drive train on the chassis
• Total hours spent to date = 9 hrs..

Well I've finished off two bottles of wine and it’s now 2:40 am my time (pst) so I’ve got to bed.. I'm pooped

Stay toned for tomorrow update!! the installation of the center drive shaft and more!!!..

Thanks for viewing and have a great one!!!

Shaun.

P.S.
Total build time is 9 hrs. to-date..

lincpimp 05.25.2008 10:06 AM

I have to say that the buggy looks really nice. I do not own any xray products, but they look extremely nice! I also had a chuckle at your "hangover and asprin" situation. I am a cognac drinker, and do not know if that would be a good idea when working on my r/cs! I prefer to have a few "ladies" around when I drink, just in case the "need" arises!

Your build looks great, and fun too! I am currently assembling a tamiya kit (tons of tiny nuts and screws) and having a blast. The build process is my favorite part. Not so fond of working out the kinks, but sometimes it has to be done! Have fun Shaun!

auto2 05.25.2008 06:25 PM

your outer tie rods are on backwards. the rim will hit them like that.

big greg 05.25.2008 06:51 PM

thing looks like its coming along well shaun, cant wait to see it going! have a nice hangover! lol

MetalMan 05.25.2008 09:06 PM

Lookin' good! I too spent a long night last night assembling my new buggy... Total build time for mine (including today) was 7 1/2 hours. But of course I didn't get the awesome build pictures you have... Even if you won't be racing this buggy on Sunday, you should still bring it!

drkros3 05.25.2008 09:08 PM

sorry to thread jack but METALMAN! i need to see pics of this buggy. im still debating if i should get one or not. (your talking about the sh z car right)

jnev 05.25.2008 11:11 PM

Its looking great so far TDC! Definitely looking forward to the next update. Can't wait to see it in action at the SoCal bash!! :yes:

TDC57 05.26.2008 02:23 AM

Thanks guys..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 176420)
I have to say that the buggy looks really nice. I do not own any xray products, but they look extremely nice! I also had a chuckle at your "hangover and asprin" situation. I am a cognac drinker, and do not know if that would be a good idea when working on my r/cs! I prefer to have a few "ladies" around when I drink, just in case the "need" arises!

Your build looks great, and fun too! I am currently assembling a tamiya kit (tons of tiny nuts and screws) and having a blast. The build process is my favorite part. Not so fond of working out the kinks, but sometimes it has to be done! Have fun Shaun!

Good to hear from you Sir lincpimp…
Thanks for the kind words and the encouragement to press onward, cognac haa.. (classy!!) I cant even imagine attempting to do these builds with something that will kick you a$$ after two drinks and I loved your comment on the ladies around just incase the need arises.. I laughed out load.. I’ve been married for 18 years with two kids that need is long gone (the wife killed that years ago!).. can you say UNIC?? Haaa haaa.. But more power to you SIR..

Which Tamiya kit are currently working on??, got any pics of your progress??. The build! is what keeps me coming back “for sure” that is my favorite part out of everything!!

Thanks again for your comments and encouragement!!!

Have a great one

Shaun.




Quote:

Originally Posted by auto2 (Post 176558)
your outer tie rods are on backwards. the rim will hit them like that.

Hay auto2..
It took me 4 times reviewing my truck but I final found that screw-up on my part.. Thanks soooo much the comment.. I really appreciate it!! This is my first buggy so I'm kind of learning as I go, I'm just glad this one was discovered now.. Did you see any other mistakes on my part?? If so please feel free to forward them along.

Thanks again…

Have a great one..

Shaun.




Quote:

Originally Posted by big greg (Post 176564)
thing looks like its coming along well shaun, cant wait to see it going! have a nice hangover! lol

Thank you “BG”.. It’s been a blast and tremendous learning experience so for.. This morning hangover wasn’t even close the Fridays / Saturday morning one.. I just need to learn that my limit on Screwdrivers is 3 glasses not 4.. I went through 70 percent of a 750ml bottle that night!..

Have a great ONE… and thanks for stopping bye..

Shaun.




Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMan (Post 176591)
Lookin' good! I too spent a long night last night assembling my new buggy... Total build time for mine (including today) was 7 1/2 hours. But of course I didn't get the awesome build pictures you have... Even if you won't be racing this buggy on Sunday, you should still bring it!



Good evening MetalMan… Thanks for the kind words, I checked out your build and was extremely impressed!!! (NICE!!).. I still am having “personal issues” that you can build it twice as fast as me (but then you’re a better Man than I am!!).. I'm looking for forward to next weekend at the track with you and others, I'm hoping to learn a thing or two!!.. Again thanks soo much for stopping bye..

Have a great one SIR…. And best of luck with Awesome build yourself.. (Not that you need it!)..




Quote:

Originally Posted by jnev (Post 176622)
Its looking great so far TDC! Definitely looking forward to the next update. Can't wait to see it in action at the SoCal bash!! :yes:


Hay Jnev… Thank you Sir.. I really looking forward to our planned excursion, have we nailed down the exact date yet??.

Thanks again for stopping buy and leaving a positive comment!!

Have a great one.. and a fabulous memorial day…

Shaun.

TDC57 05.26.2008 02:35 AM

I've got questions for the team..
 
I’ve got some questions for the team / family (hope you don’t mind)??

1. What is Drooop?? And what setting do I / have you used with any success?
2. Isn’t there supposes to be some kind of dust boot covering up the ball joints?? They are totally exposed and I can see the front tires kicking up everything on my rears every time when driven?? What am I missing here??
3. What is going to be braking on here, I hate beaning down (much like you) and feel the need to order extra parts, got any suggestions??.
4. Does anyone have a SETUP sheet they can send me?? This buggy has sooooo many different options I don’t even know where to begin other than what the instruction recommend..
5. Not that she’s running yet, but how do I judge service on a buggy and to what length is involved??, a complete teardown or just regular maintenance??, what is regular maintenance on a buggy anyway??
6. What is the recommended shock rebound setting for buggys?? The instructions give me three options (low, 50% and 100%) what are your thoughts / suggestions..

I'm SSSssoooo sorry for the newbie questions!! andThanks SOOOooo much for your time and have a great one!!!


Shaun.

MetalMan 05.26.2008 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDC57 (Post 176667)
I’ve got some questions for the team / family (hope you don’t mind)??

1. What is Drooop?? And what setting do I / have you used with any success?
2. Isn’t there supposes to be some kind of dust boot covering up the ball joints?? They are totally exposed and I can see the front tires kicking up everything on my rears every time when driven?? What am I missing here??
3. What is going to be braking on here, I hate beaning down (much like you) and feel the need to order extra parts, got any suggestions??.
4. Does anyone have a SETUP sheet they can send me?? This buggy has sooooo many different options I don’t even know where to begin other than what the instruction recommend..
5. Not that she’s running yet, but how do I judge service on a buggy and to what length is involved??, a complete teardown or just regular maintenance??, what is regular maintenance on a buggy anyway??
6. What is the recommended shock rebound setting for buggys?? The instructions give me three options (low, 50% and 100%) what are your thoughts / suggestions..

I'm SSSssoooo sorry for the newbie questions!! andThanks SOOOooo much for your time and have a great one!!!


Shaun.

1) Droop is commonly referred to as the amount of down-travel that the suspension is limited to. The setting you use often will depend on the track/surface. For example, on a track with HUGE jumps you will want to unscrew those little set screws to increase down-travel, as this will allow your suspension to work more. However, too much can be a bad thing because it will allow more body roll which decreases handling capability (sway bars are a fix for this, though).

2) Which ball joints are you referring to? Typically 1/8 buggies/truggies don't use dust shields anywhere except on the shock shafts. I never really thought about it it, but I suppose it might be because these vehicles are able to withstand such punishment. (Are you comparing the dust shields on the Revo?)

3) Obviously I can't answer this question 100% accurately, but in general you might want to stock up on front and rear arms (upper and lower) and if there are plastic arm mounts (or hinge pin plates, or whatever you want to call them) those could also be good candidates.

4) Do the instructions have a reccommended setup? That's always a good place to start. Aside from that, I am of no help here.

5) Things that often wear out the fastest are hinged suspension components, such as the suspension arms, arm mounts, rear axle carriers, and front c-hubs (if the front suspension uses a c-hub). This will be different from buggy to buggy based on the design (for example, my new SH buggy uses rubber bushings between the hinge pins and the suspension arms to reduce wear). Shock seals also wear out, and you can buy shock rebuild kits which include o-rings, shock pistons, etc.
I am not a big fan of doing maintenance on these buggies, so I just like to wait until I notice an unacceptable (by my standards) amount of slop in various parts to replace them.

6) I don't yet have enough racing experience to thoroughly answer this. That said, I tend to build my shocks with between 25-50% rebound, and make sure that all the shocks (or at least the fronts and the rears) rebound the same.

Any more pics of your awesome buildup?

TDC57 05.26.2008 03:09 AM

Awesome.. Thanks soooo much for the advice…. I'm building my shocks now and had no idea where to start as for rebounding settings.

Thanks again for everything …

Shaun.

JERRY2KONE 05.26.2008 03:32 AM

New Project.
 
Shaun as usual your builds are entertaining and educational. With the cost of the G3R I will pass on that one. This one looks to be something that I definitely want to do down the road after I get the 4 SuperMaxx trucks up and running the way that I want. The quality of the parts in this 808 kit look to be some of the best that I have seen. They did a great job making this one perfect. Your phase by phase nararation is very inspiring and informitive. I love reading your project along the way. You may want to take it a little bit easier on your liver and kidneys though. Death by booze is not a pretty site. Moderation is the key. Anyway thank you for your project sharing program. Keep up the good work on the build and the photo updates along the way. Your efforts are much appreciated.:lol:

TDC57 05.26.2008 07:44 AM

Good morning team, today I decided to move the build inside so I could spend to time with the family, while kids were watching sponge bob, I was planning my next step, IE installing the center drive shaft. This ended up being relatively painless with the only modifications to date being the removal of the Nitro braking servo plate.


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TDC57 05.26.2008 07:45 AM

With that installation completed it was time to install the side plates, hey it’s starting to look like a buggy at this point..



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Now with the main chassis installed it was time to move on to the steering servo installation


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TDC57 05.26.2008 07:47 AM

So with the basic chassis complete it was time move on to the construction of the shocks. I was extremely impressed with these / quality. I’ve had lots of experience dealing with the Traxxas big bore and the Integy MSR ones but these (but far) are superior, I can now understand why Neil installed them on his G3.0. again Neil is the man with the plan..


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Please note that these bad boys consist of no less than 22 components per shock!

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And they are HUGE!!! Here is the spring diameter


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Well with the internal parts installed and set at 50% rebound (per Metalman) AKA Travis, I used a cutting tool on a Dermal to cut a little groove in the centre of the adjusting nut. I did this after I had assembled the shocks and made sure it was screwed all the way on to the body. It just means you can easily make equal adjustments left and right.


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Excellent, now that the shocks are built it’s time for the installation of these bad boys, witch in turns brings me one step closer to completion. I did find it weird that the front right and rear left required a special silver screw turned counter turned clockwise is required, but hay who am I to question the manufacture / direction requirements. Especially at this hour.


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TDC57 05.26.2008 07:53 AM

Ok I'm totally stocked at this point, now it’s time to install the rims and tires and the wing on this bad boy,
Yes I went the easy route and just purchased a set of buggy wheels with Bow-Tie installed on them already.


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Wow my first impressions of this build once the basic build is complete is (wooow this thing cute!!)

Ok Now that the basic buggy is complete minus the motor and ESC (something just doesn’t feel right??) sure it looks good but lets do some comparison with it competition, AKA the GR3 E-Revo.. Wooow the differences are huge!! I hate to admit it but my first impression is my E-Revo will dive over this buggy and wont even bother looking back, What am missing here??. It’s a 1/8 scale same as my GorillaMaxx but it’s shorter, lighter and just feels / looks like my Meu 1515 !.5 ys will rip a hole in it!?? there is no way in hell this thing will last / take the kind of punishment I thought / hoped it would..


Team, am I missing something here??? It’s is truly stronger and handles better than I can imagine?? As stocked as I'm with this build it just feels / looks fragile compared to my GR3 and my other builds..


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Shaun.

JERRY2KONE 05.26.2008 08:03 AM

Convinced.
 
Well after reading and seeing your photos during this build I know I just have to have an 808.:yes: I need to branch out a bit anyway, and a buggy is a must at any track.:whistle: This thing is so well made.:intello: Are there any after market hopups for this thing yet?:neutral: Nice truck, nice build, nice photos, and nice job Shaun:yes:. I look forward to the completion and testing of your project, and for getting one of these for myself:party:. I guess this will be my Xmas wish from the wife this year. I can't wait to see how the BL gear gets mounted and how well it works in this vehicle. :gasp: Keep up the good work TDC:lol:.

GorillaMaxx360 05.26.2008 10:57 AM

I Don't own a buggy but they are known for there durability especially over monster trucks(and from what i hear xrays buggy's are one of the most durable). as for the shock i think it is because you are not use to the smaller type car yet. once you get it running and get a feel for it you might like it better. It is just a different kind of style that is all and it is mainly used for the track. hope i helped

Fkyx 05.26.2008 02:06 PM

Well, watching your build has convinced me that the 808 (or whatever the equivalent will be when I can afford it) will be my first buggy purchase.

Awesome build! High quality buggy!

big greg 05.26.2008 02:46 PM

tdc.... my losi 8ight is rediculous when it comes to the track, it flies soooo loooong, even if i cartwheel out of it it just keeps on goin,. awesome investment, its so much smoother than my revo acually

jhautz 05.26.2008 10:38 PM

Awesome build pics!! Love it. Great choice on the 808. I absolutely love mine. I had the EC and upgraded to the 808. Its amazing how much better the 808 handles. I cant even believe it.

With reference to your questions Ive got some recommendations based on what I have learned on my 808. See my notes in red.


Quote:

Originally Posted by TDC57 (Post 176667)
I’ve got some questions for the team / family (hope you don’t mind)??

1. What is Drooop?? And what setting do I / have you used with any success? I found the instruction manual setting of 4mm exposed on the rear droop screws to be too little droop. I am running it with great success at around 2.5mm exposed. Of course this will depend on the track and surface you run on. In general I find a low grip track needs more droop (arms hang lower) and a high grip track needs less droop (arms dont hang down as far).
2. Isn’t there supposes to be some kind of dust boot covering up the ball joints?? They are totally exposed and I can see the front tires kicking up everything on my rears every time when driven?? What am I missing here?? I'm assuming by ball joints you mean the joints on the CVD drive shafts. In your pictures it looks like you used a ton of grease on them. Much more than you need. I actually prefer to use a dry lubricant of some sort rather than grease. Grease makes dirt stick. I would check out mcmaster.com and search for a product called dri-slide in a 4 oz. squeeze bottle. That stuff dries to a gray film that lubricates better than grease and actually repels dirt rather than attracting it. Thats what I like to use anyway. You can break the CVDs back down, clean the grease off and use the dri-slide and you wont have to worry about boots or dirt sticking to the cvd joint.
3. What is going to be braking on here, I hate beaning down (much like you) and feel the need to order extra parts, got any suggestions??. I've been running mine pretty hard and had some pretty rough crashes, cartwheels, lawn-darts and other vehicle high speed collisions and its still tickin without a single broken part yet. I'm not buying any spares until something actually breaks. Xray built a seriously stout yet very lightweight buggy here I think. I have a bucket full of spares for the EC that never got used either.:tongue:
4. Does anyone have a SETUP sheet they can send me?? This buggy has sooooo many different options I don’t even know where to begin other than what the instruction recommend. Just use the instruction manual setup to start with. Xray is recommending it as a very easy to drive setup that will work well on most tracks. I can confirm that it is a very easy to drive forgiving setup. (exactly what I need:mdr:) The only thing I changed so far and didn't change back was the top position on the rear shock mounting. I'm considering going up in the center dif fluid a touch. I am unloading a bit more than I like on the straights and I think it is contributing to some slightly higher motor temps due to the over reving when the tires unload, but if it means giving up some of the great steering this thing has I don't know if I will keep it or go back. Anyway, thats the next change I'm gonna try. If you want more set up sheets go to the forums at teamxray.com and go to the setup sheets area. All the pro team drivers and everyone posts their setups for us mere mortals to use. The team drivers are on there very regularly to answer setup questions and give tips as well. Excellent support there, I highly recommend you check out the teamxray.com forum if you haven't yet.
5. Not that she’s running yet, but how do I judge service on a buggy and to what length is involved??, a complete teardown or just regular maintenance??, what is regular maintenance on a buggy anyway?? Regular maintenance is cleaning, checking for worn or broken parts, tightening loose screws, proper function of all of the parts of the buggy, changing old/dirty fluids. I like to change the fluid in the shocks and difs every few hours of actual run time to keep them consistent if its a track vehicle. Not sure what "normal" is, but thats what I do. Every few weeks of racing/practice. I hear there are some fanatics that do it after every race day, but that just seems crazy to me. If the stuff isnt looking dirty(brown or grey tint), then its still good IMO.
6. What is the recommended shock rebound setting for buggys?? The instructions give me three options (low, 50% and 100%) what are your thoughts / suggestions.. Go with a low rebound setting. Having a high rebound setting is almost like having slightly stiffer springs. If you need stiffer spring, just get the stiffer springs. I find the rebound really hard to set consistently. But that might just be me. I cant ever get it to set at exactly 0% rebound, I just get it as low as I can without it being negative (shock rod actually pulls back in when you extend the shock all the way)

I'm SSSssoooo sorry for the newbie questions!! andThanks SOOOooo much for your time and have a great one!!!

If you want to learn how different settings effect the cars performance and handling read the Xray setup guide that came with the buggy kit. It is a awesome reference guide and will tell you how to adjust everything on the car and what its effect should be on the handling and performance. I never go to the track without it. The kit also comes with the standard setup sheet that has all of the settings the manual tells you to set and a blank so you can keep notes on what you changed and what works for you.

Shaun.


fkadir 05.26.2008 11:30 PM

The both of you are making me itch to get the 808 and dump the XB8EC. My wife will get a fit if she finds out... but I think I can blame it on the both of you ;)

JERRY2KONE 05.27.2008 01:33 AM

Lincpimp
 
Nah just show her photos of lincpimps hobby room from the "show me your R/C shop", and blame it on him.:yes: Everyone blames these things on linc.:rofl: Besides Xmas is not that far off. You can either get it for Christmas or request and early Xmas gift for emotional purposes.:intello: Check her closet and see what new shoes or purses she has gotten and you will have reasons to get something R/C to make up for that.:lol:

lincpimp 05.27.2008 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 176962)
Nah just show her photos of lincpimps hobby room from the "show me your R/C shop", and blame it on him.:yes: Everyone blames these things on linc.:rofl: Besides Xmas is not that far off. You can either get it for Christmas or request and early Xmas gift for emotional purposes.:intello: Check her closet and see what new shoes or purses she has gotten and you will have reasons to get something R/C to make up for that.:lol:

Hey Fellas, you can always blame stuff on me! I will be the r/c purchase scapegoat! You can even blame your online porn collections on me, if the wife is dumb enough to belive it.

Just do me one favor. If your ladies would like to see me in person about anything I have done "wrong", just make sure they dress up and bring me some cognac (and maybe a female friend)! I am partial to Remy Martin Fine Champagne VSOP.

TDC57 05.27.2008 02:55 AM

Thanks Guys!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 176678)
Shaun as usual your builds are entertaining and educational. With the cost of the G3R I will pass on that one. This one looks to be something that I definitely want to do down the road after I get the 4 SuperMaxx trucks up and running the way that I want. The quality of the parts in this 808 kit look to be some of the best that I have seen. They did a great job making this one perfect. Your phase by phase nararation is very inspiring and informitive. I love reading your project along the way. You may want to take it a little bit easier on your liver and kidneys though. Death by booze is not a pretty site. Moderation is the key. Anyway thank you for your project sharing program. Keep up the good work on the build and the photo updates along the way. Your efforts are much appreciated.:lol:


Hay Good morning Jerry, I'm sorry I missed this comment earlier..

I didn’t know you where a buddy guy??, I knew that you have several of the badest boys on the planet, but I thought they are all GorillaMaxx’s.. Thanks for stopping by.. and leaving your comments it’s always a pleasure to hear from you! (Your always so positive and upbeat!).. witch is probely hard now with your upcoming move the Korea.. I do agree with your death buy alcohol is not a fun thing, but the only time I drink in over the weekends so that helps me rationalize it out.

Thanks again for your kind comments I love this Place!! and have a great week Jerry..

Shaun.



Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 176700)
Well after reading and seeing your photos during this build I know I just have to have an 808.:yes: I need to branch out a bit anyway, and a buggy is a must at any track. This thing is so well made.:intello: Are there any after market hopups for this thing yet? Nice truck, nice build, nice photos, and nice job Shaun:yes:. I look forward to the completion and testing of your project, and for getting one of these for myself:party:. I guess this will be my Xmas wish from the wife this year. I can't wait to see how the BL gear gets mounted and how well it works in this vehicle. :gasp: Keep up the good work TDC:lol:.


Good morning Sir, (sorry about the Sir thing) it’s just me.. (deal with it).. Hhhaaaa haaa.. hhhhaaa..
I’ve had a blast building it and I'm really looking forward to putting it to the test of track abuse. It is a bit pricing though just over 600.00 for the roller, but I'm hoping it will be worth in the long run and I know you and you like things to be around..

The truck is made out of the most quality parts I’ve ever had the opportunity to work with and the build went together without any mods.. I'm currently waiting for the motor mount from Mike and a MGM I bought last week off of a another family forum member so with any luck I should have it up within the two weeks or so.. I’l be using an existing Neu 1515 1.5y on it and a single 5s lipos.. That’s combination should move it along nicely.. (I hope).. Thanks again for stopping buy and leaving your comments (positive as always..)

Have a great one..

Shaun.


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Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360 (Post 176729)
I Don't own a buggy but they are known for there durability especially over monster trucks(and from what i hear xrays buggy's are one of the most durable). as for the shock i think it is because you are not use to the smaller type car yet. once you get it running and get a feel for it you might like it better. It is just a different kind of style that is all and it is mainly used for the track. hope i helped


Good morning GorillaMaxx360, actually it did help.. (thanks) I’ve had the opportunity to get over it and I’ve received nothing but good things regarding the durability of these buggies. So I'm a much happy place at the moment..

Thanks the comments they are much appreciated..

Have a great one

Shaun.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Fkyx (Post 176772)
Well, watching your build has convinced me that the 808 (or whatever the equivalent will be when I can afford it) will be my first buggy purchase.

Awesome build! High quality buggy!


Hay Fkyx,
It really is a great build and extremely high quality buggy in my opinion. This is my first buggy ever so coming from a MT background it was a little shocking to me, but throughout the day and ready other comments regarding buggy’s in general I still don’t in anyway regret this build..

Thanks for your comments and have a great one..

Shaun.


Quote:

Originally Posted by big greg (Post 176785)
tdc.... my losi 8ight is rediculous when it comes to the track, it flies soooo loooong, even if i cartwheel out of it it just keeps on goin,. awesome investment, its so much smoother than my revo acually

Thanks Big Greg.. that just what I needed to hear, I just need to remind myself that it’s not a MT it a totally different class of truck where I really screwed up was / is I’ve never seen / held a buggy before so I didn’t really know what to expect. I'm happy with the purchase and I'm hoping it will perform as I’ve been informed..

Thanks so much for your comments and have a great short work week..

Shaun.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 176902)
Awesome build pics!! Love it. Great choice on the 808. I absolutely love mine. I had the EC and upgraded to the 808. Its amazing how much better the 808 handles. I cant even believe it.

With reference to your questions Ive got some recommendations based on what I have learned on my 808. See my notes in red.

Hay jhautz.. I was really hoping to hear from you!! (Thank you!!!) Thank you so much for your comments and the time you invested in responding to my questions & comments.. I loved your build and was so impressed with it I had to have one.. Your knowledge is outstanding and thanks sooo much for passing it on to the newbie’s.. IE ME!..

I’ve gone online and did some research over last few days a found a entire thread section dedicated to 808 (score)

Thanks again for all of your time and I wish you a fantastic week..

Have a great one Sir.. (Sorry about the Sir thing)..

Shaun.



Quote:

Originally Posted by fkadir (Post 176917)
The both of you are making me itch to get the 808 and dump the XB8EC. My wife will get a fit if she finds out... but I think I can blame it on the both of you ;)

Hay fkadir…
My wife saw my truck this weekend after it was started and she looks at me and say’s.. YOU bought another truck??? “What ever” and walked a way, (got to love that woman) After 18 years a marriage she finally knows when to shut up and walk away… my boy is excited too, he gets to beat on another one of dad’s toys..

Hopefully your wife is that understanding as well, the 808 is extremely well built and I’ve been informed it can take a beating.. We’ll see…

Thanks for stopping bye and leaving your comments..

Have a great one..

Shaun.



Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 176966)
Hey Fellas, you can always blame stuff on me! I will be the r/c purchase scapegoat! You can even blame your online porn collections on me, if the wife is dumb enough to belive it.

Just do me one favor. If your ladies would like to see me in person about anything I have done "wrong", just make sure they dress up and bring me some cognac (and maybe a female friend)! I am partial to Remy Martin Fine Champagne VSOP.


Lincpimp you have issues plane and simply.. :lol::lol:but they at least they are the right issues... :yes:

Have a great one..

Shaun.

lincpimp 05.27.2008 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDC57 (Post 176986)
Lincpimp you have issues plane and simply.. :lol::lol:but they at least they are the right issues... :yes:

Have a great one..

Shaun.

Good to see that we are on the same page Shaun...

TDC57 05.27.2008 03:18 AM

Always Sir,
I was blown away with your work space / (SHOP!) the wall of Traxxas parts, your charging station, your production line, etc, etc. amazing the amount of $$$ you have invested.. Very impressive in deed..

Thanks for your time and have a great one..

Shaun.


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