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pb4ugo 05.25.2008 02:21 PM

Plans to carry 10 Ga wire and 6.5 bullets?
 
With the MMM coming with both, are you gonna carry them? Sure would make ordering easier keeping it in one place.

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.25.2008 05:43 PM

The MMM comes with 6.5mm bullets and if you got the 1st batch that didn't, call cc and they will send them out to you. Apart from CC only other place I have seen sell 6.5mm bullets in Tower

azjc 05.25.2008 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 176540)
The MMM comes with 6.5mm bullets and if you got the 1st batch that didn't, call cc and they will send them out to you. Apart from CC only other place I have seen sell 6.5mm bullets in Tower

and the ones Tower sells are CCs

pb4ugo 05.25.2008 06:15 PM

...and the 10 ga wire I'd have to order from Offshore electrics. That's three different places (assuming I'm ordering from RC-M already). So Mike, please carry them!

azjc 05.25.2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 176553)
...and the 10 ga wire I'd have to order from Offshore electrics. That's three different places (assuming I'm ordering from RC-M already). So Mike, please carry them!

the ESC will come with the wire and the connectors, and I feel that 10awg wire is overkill anyways, the biggest leads coming off of lipo packs are 12awg anyways

pb4ugo 05.25.2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by azjc (Post 176554)
the ESC will come with the wire and the connectors, and I feel that 10awg wire is overkill anyways, the biggest leads coming off of lipo packs are 12awg anyways

Not true. I have packs with 10awg.

While 10 may in fact be overkill, the cost difference is negligible. For continuity I want 10awg.

How many motors do you have? I have many I'd like to run off my MMM, hence the need for more 6.5 bullets. Not to mention my packs, chargers, etc.

azjc 05.25.2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 176568)
Not true. I have packs with 10awg.

While 10 may in fact be overkill, the cost difference is negligible. For continuity I want 10awg.

How many motors do you have? I have many I'd like to run off my MMM, hence the need for more 6.5 bullets. Not to mention my packs, chargers, etc.

I was going on what I have seen, I have never seen packs with wire that large.....I did use the 6.5s that came with my MMM but I really dont think I will come close to needing...I wont be pulling close to 200 amps

Sammus 05.25.2008 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azjc (Post 176554)
the ESC will come with the wire and the connectors, and I feel that 10awg wire is overkill anyways, the biggest leads coming off of lipo packs are 12awg anyways

Should take a look at the newwer 30C (XQ?) Polyquest packs :)

Link

pb4ugo 05.25.2008 10:12 PM

Tanic even has the option for 8awg wire!

azjc 05.26.2008 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 176603)
Tanic even has the option for 8awg wire!

35c packs...I wonder how accurate those ratings are? so instead of a deans ultra plug they use bullet plugs, I wonder how much of a PITA is that to slide on and off?

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.26.2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by azjc (Post 176548)
and the ones Tower sells are CCs

Yes but don't know of anyone else that cells CC 6.5mm bullets, would of thought alot more stores would of carried them when the MMM came out

Electric Eel 05.26.2008 09:16 AM

All of Neu's higher amp batteries come with 10 gauge. Get used to it, 10 gauge will replace 12 gauge, just like Dean's plugs replaced Tamiya plugs. 5 years from now 4 gauge will be standard.

JOEX 05.26.2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 176650)
Yes but don't know of anyone else that cells CC 6.5mm bullets, would of thought alot more stores would of carried them when the MMM came out

My LHS does!:yipi:

http://www.coyotehobby.com/

pb4ugo 05.26.2008 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by azjc (Post 176645)
35c packs...I wonder how accurate those ratings are? so instead of a deans ultra plug they use bullet plugs, I wonder how much of a PITA is that to slide on and off?

Tanic is known for quality cells and accurate ratings.

Deans can't keep up with today's amp draws. They're good to 75amps. That's why I'm changing over to 6.5 bullets, like all the offshore electric guys are using larger bullets. It will be the standard in my house.

pb4ugo 05.26.2008 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JOEX (Post 176724)
My LHS does!:yipi:

http://www.coyotehobby.com/

Maybe I should move to Oregon!

azjc 05.26.2008 12:03 PM

does anybody know what cells Tanic uses in thier packs?

aqwut 05.31.2008 04:45 PM

I use 10 and 8 Awgs.. I wish someone had 8 AWG silicone wires... the 10 AWG from robotmarketplace breaks too easy...

azjc 05.31.2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 178157)
I use 10 and 8 Awgs.. I wish someone had 8 AWG silicone wires... the 10 AWG from robotmarketplace breaks too easy...

I use Deans Ultra wire and Wet Noodle 12awg and it is very flexable.....IMO 12 awg is all that is needed especially when you get into higher voltages (> 4s)

Sammus 05.31.2008 09:50 PM

Yeah I've always use wet noodle and never even felt my wires get warm, so I dont imagine theyre limiting much...

dirt101 06.01.2008 09:31 PM

well heres my question. can 4mm plugs be soldered on the GIGANTIC 10g wire? Im not sure if there is enough clearance.

and is a 4mm plug enough to handle a 1515 2.5d on 5s in a CRT.(geared for 37mph)

azjc 06.01.2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dirt101 (Post 178481)
well heres my question. can 4mm plugs be soldered on the GIGANTIC 10g wire? Im not sure if there is enough clearance.

and is a 4mm plug enough to handle a 1515 2.5d on 5s in a CRT.(geared for 37mph)

you will want to use bigger connectors than 4MMs at least 5mm, I have soldered 4mm plugs on 12awg but it was a chore, I had to remove some wire strands

dirt101 06.01.2008 09:54 PM

are the hyperion 6mm conectors alright? I happen to order some of those to not thinking. I knew the MMM had 6.5mms but when I saw 6mm I was oh sweet thats the size of the MMM. guess I got excited.

azjc 06.01.2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dirt101 (Post 178484)
are the hyperion 6mm conectors alright? I happen to order some of those to not thinking. I knew the MMM had 6.5mms but when I saw 6mm I was oh sweet thats the size of the MMM. guess I got excited.

you could go as low as 5.5s if you had to, but 6.5s do come with the MMM

Sammus 06.01.2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirt101 (Post 178481)
well heres my question. can 4mm plugs be soldered on the GIGANTIC 10g wire? Im not sure if there is enough clearance.

and is a 4mm plug enough to handle a 1515 2.5d on 5s in a CRT.(geared for 37mph)

I use 4mm connectors (stock sidewinder esc) on my CRT.5 running a Feigao 9L and 3s, geared for about 34mph on brians calc, nothing ever gets the slightest bit warm so I'm thinking the 4mm spring connectors are up to the task.

azjc 06.01.2008 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammus (Post 178499)
I use 4mm connectors (stock sidewinder esc) on my CRT.5 running a Feigao 9L and 3s, geared for about 34mph on brians calc, nothing ever gets the slightest bit warm so I'm thinking the 4mm spring connectors are up to the task.


I have 4mm plugs on my 4s Rustler with a 9L being geared for about 70 mph

Patrick 06.02.2008 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirt101 (Post 178481)
well heres my question. can 4mm plugs be soldered on the GIGANTIC 10g wire? Im not sure if there is enough clearance.

and is a 4mm plug enough to handle a 1515 2.5d on 5s in a CRT.(geared for 37mph)

I have some 4mm plugs with that motor on 5s in my truggy. They handle the power well enough. Don't about fitting 10g wire though.

hoovhartid 06.04.2008 12:22 PM

Hey guys,

I have been reading the threads here for awhile, but this is the first time I've actually wrote in. The info I have learned here has helped me in loads, so if I can help, I'm Glad to do so. I found a place that carries 10g wire and 6mm bullets. Here are some links;

10AWG - Red http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...tr)_<b>RED</b>

10AWG - Black http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...)_<b>BLACK</b>

6MM Bullet Connectors http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=5281

Deans Style connectors http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...10_Pairs_(20pc)

5.5MM Bullet connectors http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...10_pairs_(20pc)

Hope it helps.

~jarrad

Sammus 06.04.2008 08:39 PM

I'm not a big fan of that wire, all of the cheap "silicone" wire that you can import from china i think doesnt have silicone insulation. feels different and melts very easily compared to deans wet noodle. Deans also has a much higher strand count, and the wire is copper, unlike the HC wire which is silver-coloured (steel?)

hoovhartid 06.04.2008 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammus (Post 179405)
I'm not a big fan of that wire, all of the cheap "silicone" wire that you can import from china i think doesnt have silicone insulation. feels different and melts very easily compared to deans wet noodle. Deans also has a much higher strand count, and the wire is copper, unlike the HC wire which is silver-coloured (steel?)

not trying to start a fight :neutral:

http://www.wsdeans.com/products/wire/index.html

On Dean's website, they don't sell 10g only 12g.
And their strand counts are 660 for "ultra" and 1660 for "wet Noodle".

the strand count for the link I gave says 1940strand @.06mm

anyhow- I don't have experiance with the deans or the hobbycity one. I will try the hobbycity one soon and let everyone know :smile:

Sammus 06.04.2008 11:15 PM

Yeah I was talking about the only deans wet noodle, 12ga. I was also thinking of the strand count of the relevant hc wire (12ga).

The main point I guess is that the insulation is crappy and melts, and its steel cored (I think), certainly not copper anyway. And nowhere near as flexible. Given its a fraction of the price though and wet noodle is usually more than ample, I'm not complaining, just comparing for those interested.

azjc 06.04.2008 11:27 PM

after using different brands of wire I use only the Deans Wet Noodle a hobby shop I used to go to gave me a sample and I was sold. The silver core wire could be aluminum

here is a link to some technobabble about aluminum wire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_wire

pb4ugo 06.04.2008 11:31 PM

Castle is specing 10 ga for a reason. I still hope Mike decides to carry it for "one stop shopping".

azjc 06.05.2008 07:38 AM

my guess would be they are using cheaper wire, makes it difficult to inspect the wire when they tin the ends......

aqwut 06.07.2008 07:15 AM

I've been using that Hong Kong 10 AWG for all of my batteries for a while now.. .it seems be doing the job very well... but then again, I have never had a problem with Deans Wet Noodle either...

I just tested a 1 foot piece of both wires... the
Deans Wet Noodle read 3.0 Ohms
HK 10AWG Silicone read 3.3 Ohms

The HK can't be steel, the strands doesn't stick to magnets...
But using 10 Awg is for insurance policy... You all know who I'm talking about, one of they're favourite phrase... "Wires are too thin" or "Wires are too long"

I put both wires under a lighter for 30 seconds... both of the silicone stayed in tact and looked similar except with black carbon build up.

Sammus 06.07.2008 07:31 AM

Yeah I never tried that, but when tinning the ends of the hong kong stuff with my 40W iron all the insulation went all soft and bubbly but the wet noodle stuff didnt change appearance at all. Not all steels are magnetic, but its probably aluminium anyway


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