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Hi all

I'm looking for a new RC, different to my FLM E-Maxx that i can just bash and not spend allot, I've seen several kits, and the $209 kyosho Lazer ZX-5 ready set keeps popping up, very afordable, any thoughts on this one, is it brushless frendly?
Going for 2s lipos and consecuently a brushless system.

also i like the Losi XXX-4 but ther's no RTR just kit, with all the extras it is over the $ I want to spend.

just want to know if I'm missing others.

So far

Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 (cheep, hard to get parts, few aftermarket)
Losi XXX-4 G+ (kit expensive)
Tamya Dark Impact (I don't know Tamya)
There should be more (is late and i'm tired):sleep:

Others:
- Jconcepts BJ4
- AE B44
- Hot Bodies D4 (copy of BJ4)
and others.

ZX5 comes in RTR form and kit form and is best value for money. The Tamiya kit will be harder to get parts for than the Kyosho.
ZX5
Parts - http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.php/cPath/1_25_232
Hop Ups - http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.php/cPath/1_24_233

get the Yokomo MR-4BX, it's REALLY NICE!!!

I got lucky on E-Bay and just bought an Xray XB8 EC for $250 including shipping. This truck sells for more than 600 so thought it was a win -win deal..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=015

The moral of the story is search EBay..

Best of luck and keep us updated on what you finally decided on.. Then post pics..


Have a great one

Shaun.

Don't forget the Academy buggy. Good buggy and price. Also available RTR.

I have the zx-5 sp (kit) and love it. I have not had a buggy since 1986 rc10 gold pan and all i can say is WOW they have come a long way!

Are you going to be racing or just bashing it? if just a basher I high recommend the zx-5 as it does not require saddle packs. and with BL and Lipo it balances nicely. if anything I am biased a bit to the motor side on 2s, 3s is abut perfect but unwieldy fast.

and parts are easy for the kyosho, just getting them local is a pain.

Predator X11. I have the XK98 and love how they designed it.

wow! those are very nice buggys I like them all, is it worth it?, I mean kit vs rtr for a basher i go to the local track ocationally, no serious races, everything else is just fun. Is it worth the extra $ for a pro kit?, will it be more durable?

Thanks all

Pro kits tend to be less durable (at least with associated). I know that the factory team kits for the B4 and T4 use a compressed carbon chassis instead fo the stock plastic chassis. They do this to reduce weight (car will then go faster, you will stand a better chance to win the race). But the over time you would be more likely to crack the carbon chassis (the plastic has more flex, it can absorb more of an impact).

so you say that CF will last less than Kyosho's plastic? Another question is Carbon Composite different than say, traxxas plastic?

They are not CF they are compressed carbon (aka shredded carbon pressed together, not long strands of carbon bonded together).
Think of it this way:
Compressed carbon is like MDF board while carbon fiber is like layered plywood, one is lots of small particles bonded together, the other is layers of material bonded together, a CF chassis would probably be fine for a 1/10th, but the compressed carbon can shatter after a bad jump. I am not saying it will shatter every time, but if you want something to bash with and be durable, a plastic chassis would probably be preferred over a carbon chassis because the plastic (kyosho or traxxas, or associated rtr/team) would be able to flex a little upon impact where as compressed carbon will crack.
I will admit that the factory team version does come with some better upgrades (at least my t4 did). So it might work out well to but a Factory team version and the buy the plastic chassis tub of the RTR, but that does start to waste money.

the rtr lazer zx will handle a mm4600 or VXL system either on 2s lipo easily youd be really happy with it and you cant beat it for the money, main problem is the bottom of the chassis has holes in it letting dirt in and it usally goes straight for the spur gear you can search on the forums and find the gear cover i made for my gf's it survived an entire day at the track and we only had to stop it once to get somthing out of the spur gear. Im looking at making my own lexan under body for it or maybe adapting a b44's underbody to fit it. this would solve the only problem we've had.

+1. Its a solid buggy. :yes:

I just picked this up for mine and am rather pleased with it: http://www.rcxmini.com/product_info....oducts_id=2359

and 7075 goodies for high stress points:
http://www.pnracing.com/ I have the tower mounts and suspension arm mounts.

ok thanks, i'm starting to understand the concept, I'll guess I will start with the rtr kyosho just waiting on confirmation on amainhobbies for international shipping and i'll order some graphite or aluminum towers. thanks all for al the help.

cmcclive I think i found chassis covers for the lazer on ebay may work

update
 

i have the following on order:

1. Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 SP kit
2. HS-645MG Metal-Geared Hitec servo
3. Pro-Line Inside Job 2.2" M3 Front & Rear
4. Kyosho Spur Gear 48P 76T & 78T.
5. Xtreme Racing Kyosho Lazer Thick Silver Carbon Fiber Front & Rear Shock Tower.
6. Kyosho Special Blue Aluminum Front Suspension Holder
7. Tony's Screws Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 Screw Kit
8. Align Hexagon Screw Driver Set (1.5, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0mm)
9. and some other stuff.

RTR vs kit(pro) - again there's no difference, i think, over the carbon composite materials use in both versions, it seems they are made with the same material. I've chosen the SP version for the purpose of building it from scratch and also i hate cheep servos and AM radios, those where going to be upgraded aniway, also i heard good things about the SP shocks, not that the rtr are bad, just the SP ones perform better.

I have tecnical problems with amainhobbies with shipping requirements but i hope to have this order on its way next week.

I had left the brushless system for last as I haven't desided witch one or witch will work best i still need to digg up some more info, but I think the mamba max 5700 or 6900kv will do fine.

thanks again

What batteries are you going to be using? I was running a 6900KV in my XXX-4 and BJ4 and on 6 cell nimh it was fast

i have 2X 2s 5000 MA lipos and 4X 4200mAh sxs 6 cells, probably just lipos as i plan to sell the other batts but maby i'll keep two.

after reviewing top speeds on the MM types i think the 5700 is a better suited for the ZX-5

In May issue of Xtreme RC they ran a Kyosho ZX5 SP with a Mamba 6900kv and Peak 3200 Lipo geared at 17/78 and got top speed of 42mph @ 191ft

I also have a Kyosho ZX-5 buggy and love it. I am using a Feigao 380c 8T motor with a MM and a 3800mah 6 cell nimh pack and it is pretty fast. I have not had any issue so far. I think you will be very happy with your purchase.

it's done (long live paypal)
here is the final damage:

1. Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 SP
2. Hitec HS-645MG High Torque Metal Gear Servo
3. Pro-Line Inside Job 2.2" M3 4wd Front & Rear Buggy Tires
4. Kyosho Spur Gear 48P-78T & 76T.
5. Xtreme Racing Kyosho Lazer Thick Silver Carbon Fiber Front & Rear Shock Tower (4mm)
6. Align Hexagon Screw Driver Set (1.5, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0mm)
7. Kyosho Special Blue Aluminum Front Suspension Holder
8. Tony's Screws Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 Screw Kit
9. Castle Creations Mamba Max 1/10th Scale Brushless Car Package (6900kV) (5700 was out of stock)
10. Futaba R603FF 2.4Ghz FASST 3-Channel Receiver (3PM)
11. Robinson Racing 48P Pinion Gear 15,16,17,18,19,20T

for a grand total of $771.36 this should be a nice father's day present, now to tell the wife :gasp::party:

nice find on the dust cover i just ordered a couple of those