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stanmart 09.25.2005 02:01 PM

Brushless looks fast
 
I have a nitro savage with a collari .32 in it. Its really quick. Id like to see how it compares to a decent brushless setup.

I love how the brushless setups are so quick right from the get go.

I might have to get a used savage and do a conversion. Very cool what you guys are doing.

JOHNNYMAXXIMA 09.25.2005 02:59 PM

Well maybe we can set up a drag race between you and Promod.:D I believe he has got one of the fastest brushless monster trucks out there. Over 70mph I believe.
Brushless definitely has the off-the-line advantage over nitro (at least my nitro anyway). I do have both and I enjoy my brushless E-Maxx over my T-Maxx. Wheelie bar definitely required!

dabid 09.25.2005 03:14 PM

I have a vid saved to my PC of big Plett powered Savage with a ton of cells against a T-Maxx in a German pulling comp.....just plain sick. The trucks are supposed to haul a milk crate with some bricks in it, the Savage lights up all 4 tires and goes careening out of control over the finish line, while the Maxx strains by literally 10 seconds later.

Serum 09.25.2005 03:30 PM

that is a duall plettenberg bigmaxx with 36 cells..

This is a movie of my savage with one of those motors on 16 cells.
It really is quick from 0.. not the lightest savage around though. I am going to do a new lighter 20 cell project.

about the plettenberg; The 7XL however is smoother, a tad stronger and much cheaper. (i sold my schulze/bigmaxx setup and bought a 7XL/9920)Welcome to the forum bytheway.

If you have got any question about converting the savage or any related question, feel free to ask!

nitrostarter 09.25.2005 03:49 PM

Welcome aboard man.

The brushless world is vastly gaining popularity but nitro guys tend to cut us down, that is until they get spanked. Its great to see more nitro guys accept BL.

stanmart 09.25.2005 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nitrostarter
Welcome aboard man.

The brushless world is vastly gaining popularity but nitro guys tend to cut us down, that is until they get spanked. Its great to see more nitro guys accept BL.

I used to run soley electrics. I ventured into nitro after getting back into the hobby. Now im watching brushless motors go and im wanting to venture back into electric. heh.

Dont get me wrong. Nitro is great too. I like the sound and smell of it. The power is darn good.

But the brushless systems seem to be uncontrollable beasts. LOL

Be fun to mess around with one.

I got and old monster beetle im hopping up. Maybe a brushless system in that! LOL.

Serum 09.25.2005 04:38 PM

don't get a bl setup for you monsterbeetle. the drivetrain will be dead with the 1st WOT you give it. i can guarantee you that. Or you are planning on buying a mamba 4200 setup...

Checked my movie?

Nick 09.25.2005 06:32 PM

I have tried nitros and never like them, the only thing I really prefer about nitros is they have a constant runtime & power.

Electric just seems to get slower the more you run it until it stops. (Might be different with brushless?).

P.s Serum, that is one annoying dog you have. :D

coolhandcountry 09.25.2005 06:37 PM

Welcome aboard stanmart. I used to have nitro as well. I liked it. But there is something about brushless that keeps me going better. I think it is just the sudden power not the wind up power. Good luck on your build up.

Serum 09.26.2005 01:23 AM

@Nick, that was with old batteries, the new batteries, they keep the voltage till the end, and they suddenly die..

That dog is not mine, it was from two people who where passing by.. Those dog's have got quite some energy..

Nick 09.26.2005 02:53 AM

Can I ask what batteries you use?

My GP3300s for the first few runs kept going then suddenly stopped but they don't seem to anymore.

Serum 09.26.2005 03:16 AM

My guess is that 1 or 2 of your cells is dead or less good, that way the voltage drops in steps.

That's the reason those packs need to be made from matched cells. Even with matched cells, this may occure, due to a cell failure.

Dafni 09.26.2005 05:19 AM

It's a good idea to check your packs after charging or running. Look for cells that are exceptionally hot. The pack should have an even temp. If one cells goes bad, it will get warmer than the others in most cases.

Serum 09.26.2005 05:57 AM

Amen...

stanmart 09.26.2005 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serum
don't get a bl setup for you monsterbeetle. the drivetrain will be dead with the 1st WOT you give it. i can guarantee you that. Or you are planning on buying a mamba 4200 setup...

Checked my movie?

Oh i know. I was just kidding about the BL in a beetle. Im actually in the process of upgrading the tranny though. Guy is making me some reinforced dog bones. It still wouldnt handle it i dont think. And plus you really dont need a motor that powerful in a beetle anyways. Its too much for it. I mean look it how it throws the savages around. It would be un controllable in the beetle.

Yes i did see the movie. Thats actually why i posted in this forum. Checking out some of the brushless stuff.

Serum 09.26.2005 04:51 PM

With a little luck i can share some new movies in the very near future, within a few weeks, i will post them as soon as i got them..

stanmart 09.26.2005 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nick
I have tried nitros and never like them, the only thing I really prefer about nitros is they have a constant runtime & power.

Electric just seems to get slower the more you run it until it stops. (Might be different with brushless?).

P.s Serum, that is one annoying dog you have. :D

I like the gas powered stuff. Its pretty neat but there are things that annoy me about it.

Pros

1. Nice power and sound is neat.
2. Longer Run Times
3. No constant battery chaging
4. Attracts crowds. heh


Cons

1. Constant tuning
2. Stalling
3. Cost of gas
4. Noise can annoy neighbors

stanmart 09.26.2005 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by coolhandcountry
Welcome aboard stanmart. I used to have nitro as well. I liked it. But there is something about brushless that keeps me going better. I think it is just the sudden power not the wind up power. Good luck on your build up.
Thanks. Dont know if im going to do it yet. Im thinking about it. Id like to keep one gas and have one electric.

I must say after doing nitro and electric. Electric is definatly easier to deal with.

squeeforever 09.26.2005 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stanmart
I must say after doing nitro and electric. Electric is definatly easier to deal with.
Amen to that...

Dafni 09.27.2005 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serum
With a little luck i can share some new movies in the very near future, within a few weeks, i will post them as soon as i got them..
Wow, Rene. Make sure I'll get to see them.

Serum 09.27.2005 02:45 AM

That's common sence Daniel!

Dafni 09.27.2005 03:10 AM

What truck have you in mind, if I may ask?

Serum 09.27.2005 03:21 AM

My maxx is nearly finished!

(and it's about time)

coolhandcountry 09.27.2005 09:33 AM

Got some recent pics on that max serum. I see some in the build process. Should I check out your site.

Serum 09.27.2005 01:06 PM

Yeah, in case you wondered what took me so long..

I changed from provider, it was a pita getting the FTP setup correctly.. i needed to use a specific FTP program instead of the one i was using.. What a crap.. (can you smell the frustration??)

well, here is my maxx to be..

http://www.serum.speedlinq.nl/mini/1.JPG

http://www.serum.speedlinq.nl/mini/2.JPG

http://www.serum.speedlinq.nl/mini/3.JPG

http://www.serum.speedlinq.nl/mini/4.JPG

http://www.serum.speedlinq.nl/mini/5.JPG

coolhandcountry 09.27.2005 01:48 PM

I like it. I think that is cool sliver with the blue screws. SWEET!!
Fine work there. I so proud of you. :D

Serum 09.27.2005 01:51 PM

Yeah, i like the clean looks of it.. It's in desperate need of some parts though.. ;)

Thanks for the compliment Coolhand!

Dafni 09.27.2005 02:05 PM

Wow! I have to pick my jaw up!
Very very nice Maxx, Rene. I love it. My Revo looks like a hack job in comparison.

What skids are those?

Serum 09.27.2005 02:20 PM

Those skids are GA's (titanium by the way)

and stop calling you Revo a hack job, she will leave you one day for those words....

I weighted those bulkless thingy's, they are lighter than expected, they weight 10g more than the UE bulkless VBS with lighter aluminum skids.

dabid 09.27.2005 02:42 PM

7xl, right?

Serum 09.27.2005 02:45 PM

Yes, one silver 7XL, my savage will get another motor..

I happen to have a 9L, don't know what to do with that.. It's so small.. A tad too large for my mini-t though..

dabid 09.27.2005 02:56 PM

I could take it off your hands.....not sure what it'd go in, but it'd make it go fast! :D

Dafni 09.27.2005 03:14 PM

I also have this kinda leftover 9L. (but selling it to an 'merican would be pointless, because of shipping and custom fees. Okay, nbcaz? )

True, it's small. There was a time when everybody suggested them. (pre-7XL era, remember?)

Ti skids are great, I have some on my maxx.

The truck will look more crowded when it's finished, Serum. The lack of cables makes it look very tidy;)

My Revo wont leave me. Not for as long as there's the prospect of me taking it to see the nice dutch maxx:Love:

Serum 09.27.2005 03:25 PM

It will happen for sure Daniel!!! (the meeting)

the cables will mess up my clean ZEN architecture maxx..


Yeah, ncabz, that 9L rule Daniel just gave is going for me too...

;)

Nick 09.27.2005 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dafni
I also have this kinda leftover 9L. (but selling it to an 'merican would be pointless, because of shipping and custom fees. Okay, nbcaz? )

*Hammer + Nail + Head*

Hear that ping as I tap the nail Nbcaz. ;)

RC-Monster Mike 09.28.2005 08:55 PM

New trucks are always so darn pretty! It is a shame I can't seem to keep any of mine as shiney and new as that one. that is a sweet ride, Rene. Very nicely done. The aluminum single speed tranny will complement it nicely. The 7xl will, however, flex that motor mount if you take a medium to large jump. My 1940 put a hurtin on my motor mount lately(though it was a 37 foot long, 15+ foot high jump!). I think a brace under the rear of the motor is in order(for both of us!).

crazyjr 09.28.2005 11:35 PM

Awsome truck Serum. Hey Mike. Is that jump similar to those in your video's?

Serum 09.29.2005 01:00 AM

Okay Mike, i get the hint!

;)

Papa 09.29.2005 06:16 AM

Soo.... Who has some brilliant ideas for a rear brace for these XTRA LARGE Motors? As you may recall the 1940 is going mine.

Dafni 09.29.2005 06:22 AM

Motor brace: I always imagine some angled alu with a U-shaped top, same diameter as the motor. Should be easy to grow ;)


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