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Cartwheels 09.29.2005 04:19 PM

Motor mount construction
 
I'm in the process of converting my hyper 7 to brushless. I have threads about making motor mounts using angle aluminum. Today I bought a nice piece of aluminum from a local scrap dealer. I love places like that, but anyway I have a question about the aluminum.

The angled aluminum is slightly fatter in towards where the angle is and gets thinner towards the outer edge. So when I mount the motor it, the motor will will be mounted at a very very slight angle. More importantly the pinion will be closer to the spur on the motor side. Were talking about a very very small difference but, I guess my questions is that a big deal? Should I even worry about it?

squeeforever 09.29.2005 04:54 PM

how little? if its more and about a 1/32 or so i would just bent it a little.

RC-Monster Mike 09.29.2005 06:00 PM

Welcome to the forums, cartwheels!
If I am understanding you correctly, the motor is leaning a little vs. being perfectly parallel with the spur? Perhaps this is partly due to the weight of the motor? What motor is it? When you land a jump, this distance may become greater due to flex in the motor mount. It is hard to say without actually seeing it, but if the angle plate is thick enough, the flex should be minimal(if the plate isn't think enough, the issue will worsen under high stress as I just mentioned). You could also place a washer under the low side of the new motor mount, to bring it back to level.

Cartwheels 09.29.2005 06:11 PM

It's been a long, long time since I've been in a geometry class. Can't even remember how to figure that one out!
I never thought about bending it. If there is a problem that is what I will do. You know the more I look at it the more I think it's not going to be a problem. I thought about shaving it down, but that would be very hard to do. I don't really have the tools for that. Thanks!

RC-Monster Mike 09.29.2005 06:17 PM

Good luck with it!

Cartwheels 09.29.2005 06:32 PM

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Originally posted by RC-Monster Mike
Welcome to the forums, cartwheels!
If I am understanding you correctly, the motor is leaning a little vs. being perfectly parallel with the spur? Perhaps this is partly due to the weight of the motor? What motor is it? When you land a jump, this distance may become greater due to flex in the motor mount. It is hard to say without actually seeing it, but if the angle plate is thick enough, the flex should be minimal(if the plate isn't think enough, the issue will worsen under high stress as I just mentioned). You could also place a washer under the low side of the new motor mount, to bring it back to level.

Thanks for the welcome. You've got a nice site.
I'm actually just getting ready to construct it. I just looked at it again and I realized that it was just excess material from when it was previously cut. So it is a non issue. The angle aluminum that I got is 1/4" so it shouldn' flex but hopfully it's not too thick either.

MetalMan 09.29.2005 07:00 PM

1/4" aluminum angle is definately pretty thick! On my 1/8 buggy, I have constructed a complete slipper clutch/motor mount assembly. I used 1/4 for the motor plate and frontal bearing support. With that angle, you will never have to worry about a bent motor mount.

RC-Monster Mike 09.29.2005 07:37 PM

You shouldn't have any trouble with 1/4" material. A little heavy, but it shouldn't flex at all.
Thanks for the site comment. I hope you stick around and enjoy the forums.

coolhandcountry 09.29.2005 08:07 PM

Welcome aboard there cartwheels. Do you have any pics there catwheels? I like to see what you got. Can't never see enought projects people do.

Cartwheels 09.29.2005 10:16 PM

I'm in the parts gathering stage still right now. So as far as pictures go, its just a nitro burning hyper 7 and some raw parts. Not sure if there is much to see right now, but I'm going to go look. By the way, I'm "muck" from rc zone. Maybe I'll take some pixs of my rustler a project in motion, .

MetalMan 09.29.2005 10:26 PM

Hey muck! I am tcolesen over at RC Zone. I too would like to see some pics of your buggy.

Cartwheels 09.29.2005 11:23 PM

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Here is my Hyper 7. With a MBX diff in the foreground. My plan is Feigao 10L , MGM 160 and I be using 4s Lipos.

Cartwheels 09.29.2005 11:41 PM

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And my Rustler. Its about 3 years old. I have had to replace all the plastic in the last year or so due to brakage of some form or other. It's has a Feigao 8s, uf75 and I run on 2s or 3s. The rear end has some toe in and Mip cvd's. The toe in really makes a huge difference.

Cartwheels 09.29.2005 11:51 PM

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Here is another view of the rustler. the aluminum over the uf75 is for holding a fan. Notice how the rear of the body has rubbed off over time.

Dafni 09.30.2005 01:21 AM

Welcome aboard, carthweel! Nice RCs, please share some pics of the finished buggy!

Cartwheels 09.30.2005 11:10 AM

Should I use something thinner for my motor mount? I could get a piece of 3/16 angle aluminum I think it was from the scrap metal dealer.

MetalMan 09.30.2005 03:57 PM

It depends upon where you will be mounting the motor. If you plan on mounting the motor so that it will be just slightly above the lower chassis deck, then you can definitely use 3/16" aluminum.

Cartwheels 09.30.2005 05:02 PM

I went ahead and bought another piece of aluminum it turned out to be 1/8". It looks like it will do the trick. I got an 1.5" cut out of both. The 1/4" stuff looks like it would be heavy and hard to dremel out. I think the 1/8" will be the way to go. I've learned that its almost impossible to get the right thing the first time!

MetalMan 09.30.2005 07:17 PM

1/8" should work, although in a nasty crash it does have a chance of bending. Just make sure to check it occasionally for any bending.

Serum 10.01.2005 07:53 AM

You can use a jigsaw tyo machine aluminum. I did use a jigsaw on 10mm thick aluminum, it works pretty well, it just takes some patience.

My advice is to use a motorbrace with the 10L, otherwise its likely the 1/8th aluminum will bent with jumps etc.

http://www.serum.demon.nl/NewBorn/8.JPG

Cartwheels 10.01.2005 11:56 AM

Wow! That mount looks great. It's amazing what you can do. That does give me some ideas. Might be a good reason to buy a new jigsaw. Mine is like 30 years old. Barely works anymore. My dad bought it when I was about 10 Years old.

aqwut 10.01.2005 02:36 PM

that's a real nice mount.. mine's cheap, and ugly.. but works great.. I use the 1/4" angle piece also... I just use the aluminum grinding disc, and grind two lines about 25mm apart, then drill out the middle piece for the motor...

cabking 10.01.2005 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Cartwheels
Here is my Hyper 7. With a MBX diff in the foreground. My plan is Feigao 10L , MGM 160 and I be using 4s Lipos.
Is that a plastic spur on the MBX diff and will the diff bolt straight in Cartwheels,
I have a hyper truggy conversion just begging for some amps but I cant find a plasic spur for the spider center.
I have had some bad experince with the metal spurs :o

Cartwheels 10.02.2005 02:24 PM

Yes, it is a plastic spur, the Ofna 51t. I will have to do some modifications to make the diff fit in. My plan is to move the rear diff holder post thingy towards the rear to fit in the slightly longer MBX diff. Then I will use the shorter MBX dogbone. I don't know for sure if this will work. I'm just hopeful at this point. It may take me awhile but I will post my progress.

Cartwheels 10.06.2005 08:53 PM

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I made a motor mount over the weekend. I ended up using the 1/4 " stuff. It came out pretty good as far as function should go. It's far from perfect but should do the trick. I tried to trim out the unnecessary weight and leave enough for structural integrity.
Here is a picture.

El Jarretto 10.06.2005 10:39 PM

Nice mount. Have you tested it to see if the motor will actually move? That type of mounting holes can be a pain if you don't get it just right.

Cartwheels 10.07.2005 11:59 AM

I did test to make sure the motor would move. What I had to do was use a piece of steel with two holes as a tool to hold my dremel in the proper spot. I used a screw and nut in one end of the steel and went thru on the bottom hole in my mount and then used the top hole for the proper arc. Drilled three holes first using the steel tool as the guide. Then dremeled out the arcing slot. Only trouble I had was the nut I used on my screw should have been a nylon lock nut because it came loose and I ended up with a fat spot. I think you can see it in the picture.


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