New Savage XL Terra Pin Tires: HUGE!
 

I picked up a set of the new Terra Pin tires from the XL and they are massive! There's so much sidewall that even after huge 15ft + jumps, the chassis won't bottom out. And with so much tire spinning, it's easy to pull double backflips with ease.

Traction is excellent on dirt, but the tall sidewalls make high speed runs on pavement almost impossible. Over 35mph on pavement the truck starts to wander and become very unstable. But off road they are fantastic. All that extra sidewall helps to absorb rough terrain far better than the Dirt Bonz they replaced.

The Maximizer beadlocks managed to hold the tires without popping a bead, so they're worth the extra money to me. The Super Heavy Duty XL dogbones are also holding up perfectly. Too bad I blew out another rear diff. My fault really. A couple of nitro guys showed up at the BMX track and I just had to show off. :whistle: Oh well, at least the diff gears are easy to replace.

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Wow, how much balloning do they do?

I have a set of these tires as well. I haven't been able to test them on the dirt much, but I know that they are probably the worst onroad tires you can get! :lol:
They are as unstable as a ballooning tire... when they aren't ballooning. They don't balloon too much as far as I could tell, but I couldn't even get to full speed with them on with the short street in front of my house. Good to know that they work well in the dirt! :yipi:

I was surprised that they didn't balloon more. I mean they do balloon a little, but not into pizza cutters. They maybe increase another .5-.75" in diameter.

I saw a pic of the XL with one pizza cutter front tire, but I've got 30K fluid in my diffs so they don't unload like stock.

Definitely save these for off road only!

i like those tires. they are meant to be used in real savage circumstances: help for freestyle jumping, soften the hard landings, good grip in real OFFroad driving. :yes:

imo they also look good.

rhylsadar

Did you need to put the rage rings on the Maximizer or did they fit without them? Great looking tires!

Nope, no rage rings or the new included rings. The tires have a nice thick bead.

I want a set of these tires too. I think they would be a good skate park tire.

Do u think these tires would work well with any Maxx size beadlocks such as the Axial wheels or the maxx size alum. ones on RC4WD?

...can we get an update on these? maybe some more pics? :)

...Is anyone still using these? Really considering grabbing a set...TOTALLY the look I am going for :)

Any more pros or cons? Spill the beans :)

Used them in the Flux for a while, Dropped the motor temp a tad but noticed the ESC fan came on a bit more. (Kept with stock gearing)

But they looked huge on it!

I also like the size of them on the XL chassis - I wonder if there are any that have a bigger rim, with that diameter? Baja 5B rears??

Wow, this thread is back from the dead!

For jumping and devouring everything in a straight line, these are my favorite tire off road. For cornering in loose conditions they're ok. For cornering on hardpack or asphalt....forget it. The tall sidewall likes to roll over too much.

I just checked the HPI website, and the 5B tires are 170mm dia - what is the diameter of these?
5B set up would require switching to 24mm hubs, though. I sent an email to HPI to see if those hubs will fit the Savage outdrives.

I'm running them on a ERevo and love'm. The tire is med compound and the foam are pretty firm. I'm geared 68/15 so my top end is at about 40ish and I notice zero balloning. Grip like crazy off road and jump exceptional. Mine are mounted on Proline Maxx sized 23mm rims dyed black.

I have a set of these from my XL. They are great offroad. Amazing the stuff I could drive thru. Onroad is absolutely terrible. They balloon so much and the sidewalls are so big the car just begins to sway and loose control at any speed much more than 35mph.
They are 17mm rims stock btw.

JT you can use the 5T Savage hubs that take the Baja rims if you have the EXTENDED axles from the XL and the 5T 24mm hex adaptors...You also need the XL dogbones to fit the XL axles...(this also cancels out the possibility of using 8mm buggy axles)...The XL bones means you need the XL diffs and the XL dedicated bulkheads :) this counts me out for right now as i am all X sizes...

...not a cheap exercise and the Baja beadlock weights and the tire weights is kinda scary...I have 17mm Maximzers and dirtbonz (still) and they have added alot of 'noticeable' weight, (though i prefer the beadlock advantage)...

It would be worth a shot if you knew your BL transmission is set up for it...Unfortuntaely mine isnt but i would still love to see this setup in action :)

Thanks for all the news fellas...I still reckon they are a great tire and worth a shot...just make sure they dont go on-road too much i guess :) Certainly enough cmments to make an educated guess at how they go though...Great stuff and thanks for your efforts :)

wow i didnt know to do the xl conversion you would need xl bulks and diffs, i was just thinking arms and all center and drive bones...hmmm might as well just convert the xl then. Money wise its just not worth the extra dough.

all you need to convert a flux to xl length and width is either the TCScrawlers kit or the 1offrc kit and the extended axles. that's it. you are trying to make this harder than it needs to be:lol:

Leave me alone I have done so much research on this damn thing tonight my brain hurts...:lol:I need sleep. :sleep: besides what about the wider stance...I need that dont I?? Anyways Im ordering Lipos, Im poor again for a bit and the wife will call to fight with me in the morning for the bill!! Yea!!

...i thought the extended axles needed the fatter bones, connected to the fatter outdrives, connected to the xl bulks...connected to the knee bone, connected to the ankle bone :) Sing along :) We all know the tune :)

Just as a matter of interest, and gettinf back on topic, who is using these with or without airholes in rims or tires? Not wanting to open the whole aireated (spelling?), just how it corresponds yo the Terra Pins...

Actually had a bag of these in my hand in Tokyo the other day and they are lighter tgan GT's which surprised and delighted me LOL

The Flux shares the same outdrives from the diff as the XL. That is why I ended up needing the FLM Diff cases for the XL, as they come with a pair of smaller diameter outdrive cups - which still fit the stock drive shaft.

The bigger outdrives and bones are nice, but are not required. If you want the ext axles that comes on the XL, then you will need to convert to the larger bones and diff outdrives.

...yes...MY brain fart...apologies all-round :) I had in my mind X to XL as opposed to FLUX to XL...Sorry...

As has been correctly stated...

X to XL needs the cups, FLUX to XL has the right bones and cups already...

SO...

air holes yes or no...I am thinking NO to keep the wheel HARDER and less rolling resistance, therefore more shock movemement too? or will they be TOO bouncy? Might solve the sidewall folding too?