Thunder Tiger ST-1
 

Hi all,

I was curious if anybody has converted one of these before? I did a search in the forums and saw that one person did but it was a while ago, and was wondering if anybody has tried again recently? I tried looking @ the shop here but didnt see a motor mount either and not to be rude, but if anybody knows of another place... I tried to ask mike, but i know hes a busy man and so i dont wanan email and ask him to much bout it. I just got done with a crt .5 and was able to buy the TT used for a decent price. Was going to keep it a nitro, but after running it as such, realized that i just like the electric, mainly the brushless so much more. TIA for help.

I have a brushless Thunder Tiger ST-1 Pro. I've been racing it since mid October last year, plus a decent amount of running up and down the street and on grass.
I can't remember all the things that are different between the RTR and the Pro, but besides the stock body and a set of center diff gears I shimmed wrong I haven't had to replace anything on it yet, so it seems pretty strong to me.
I use a neu 1515 2.5d and 95% of the racing has been done on 5s, with maybe half of the bashing on 6s, so the drivetrain seems pretty decent.

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Original body.

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Kyosho ST-R body

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Hand made motor mount and battery trays. Esc mount is the rcm one made for the quark 125.

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Ignore the messy wiring and foam hanging off the side.

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It's not the latest and greatest racing truggy, but I think it's a pretty competitive car once you do the steering mod (my car has so much steering that I don't use the brakes during races, I just turn the wheels and it will slow down) and find a set up you like. Plus it's cheaper than most of the other cars, and parts are pretty cheap (I buy mine from a main hobbies, but not that I've gotten to use many of them yet :smile:). Overall it seems a bit underrated to me.
~4 months ago Mike told me in an e-mail that he would have a mount ready for the ST-1 in about 2 weeks....so I guess he just got side tracked with all the other stuff he's doing. I'm sure he will end up releasing one if he gets asked about it a bit more, so he knows there are people around who want one.
GO the ST-1! :yipi:

Hi Patrick,

Very very nice truck. I like the ST-1 with steering mod. This truck is way underrated.

Regards,
Joe Ling

what steering mod did you do? and also was it hard to make the motor mount for it? I tried making a battery mount for my crt .5 and it was a mess. also what kinda tools did u end up using to create the mount?

Follow this thread :

http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/in...8&#entry172238

This mod works.

Regards,
Joe Ling

link didnt work :(. Joe did you mod a TT ST-1? NM i just went ahead and signed up on there.

Hi dark96,

Yes I have done the mod & it definitely works. Prior to the mod, the front tire does not touch the body at maximum steering end point. After the mod, I was surprised that it was touching the body. At first I didn't even realise what happened. Had to trim the body a little to clear the tire.

Regards,
Joe Ling

Yeah mine sounded a bit like the diff was clicking when I took corners at speed, but it was just the body trying to rip the tread off the tires, until I trimmed it.
It wasn't really that hard to make the motor mount, just time consuming, but it depends on how much of that sort of stuff you've done before. If you haven't done much it's not the easiest thing to start with.
I used at hacksaw, a few different files, various drill bits, cheap drill press (I did a few of the holes with a normal drill, but it's a bit harder), dremel, 4mm tap, fine sand paper and finally a buffing wheel on a bench grinder to make it look pretty.

yea, the hardest part for me is making the slits like you have for the motor to move either up or down and to make it look uniform. but like i said i have only done one other piece, which actually was just a flat piece of alum. for a battery tray, and it looked like a monster gnawed at it. where did you get the piece of alum. for the mount at too?

I didn't buy the aluminum, it's just some pieces that weren't going to be used at work.
I'm not really sure where other guys get their material from, but if I was going to buy some it would be thinner and higher grade stuff than I used (mine is pretty heavy).

The motor adjustment slots are a bit tricky. I marked out where I wanted the slots, then drilled a line of 3mm holes as close together as possible, and used the dremel with a router type bit (I don't know the exact name for it) to get rid of the remaining material.
If you do one like mine or the rc monster mounts then it also holds one of the center diff bearings, so you want all of that to be as staight as possible, otherwise the center diff will sit at an angle.
If you make a mount like cart213's (I assume his is the other ST-1 you saw) it still uses the stock diff holder on both sides, so it won't have to hold the center diff bearing.

Funny I was just gonna start a thread on brushless motor mounts for this truck!

how much is involved in that steering mod? can you show pics of what you did?

This thread on truggy racers explains the steering mod.
http://www.truggyracers.com/forum/in...howtopic=17753

Should end up looking like this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...1521/RC/01.jpg

joeling said in that thread that you don't actually need to cut the steering ackerman for it to work.

Hi,

Here are some photos I took just now on the steering mod result :

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...g39/st0103.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...g39/st0102.jpg
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...g39/st0101.jpg

Regards,
Joe Ling

BTW, if anyone is offering a motor mount for this truck - I'm in !

Regards,
Joe Ling

cool thanks joeling so basically all you did was move the tie rods to the inner mounts. awesome Iwas trying to figure out how to make it turn better!

Now if I could just get my hands on a motor mount, I have a big Neu motor tht needs a home!

Failed attempt
 

well i tried to make a motor mount and talk bout ugly, it was a horrid story of despair, anger, and then ultimately crying. I would have taken a picture of my attempt but its somewhere in the field behind my house. So back to the drawing board. I'm just hoping that Mike will read this and have pity on us TT ST-1 guys and create some professional looking motor mounts and allow me to give my bandage hand some nice R&R.

Sorry to laugh at your pain, but that was a funny post :rofl:
So, I guess you're giving up on the idea of making your own mount. Has Mike given you a reply about making one for you?

I emailed him but havent heard anything back yet, but i'm sure I will try it again, just need to let my fingers heal back up.also needa find out exactly what thickness i need to go with so it can hold the center diff this time

I want my RC Monster ST-1 motor mount & I want it now !

Well ok I heard rumours that Mike is secretly working on this & I'm pretty excited. I'm having a blast with my nitro ST-1 & in fact just acquired another. This is one good truggy but not much coverage I wonder why ?

Regards,
Joe Ling

Mike said in this thread http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13081 that he will have a thunder tiger mount soon.

I'm wondering that as well. It's been working well for me and I still haven't broken anything (I'd say the track I've been bashing at this week will change that though - bbiiiiggg jumps :yes:), plus it's cheap.

Hi Patrick,

Did u by any chance get any updates from Mike on the availability of the motor mount ?

Regards,
Joe Ling

No, I haven't heard anything else about it since Mike posted in that thread nearly a month ago.

I have been having great luck with my Thudner Tiger truggy racing, I can't wait to convert it to electric, Mike has said one is in the works!

Someone will have to send a ST-1 into Mike, he only has a S2 buggy which are not the same differential. I was going to send mine in, but I have since decided to upgrade my truggy after the season closes.

:party: Now I can convert my new S3 buggy without having to make another mount by hand, and I might end up changing the layout of my ST-1 with this mount. Thanks Mike.

OH HAPPY DAY. HAPPY DAY INDEED. now to figure what else i wanna put in it.

So your not going to have another shot at making your own mount dark96 :whistle:

yeah thats a big NO. I mean mr. mike has kindly put a pro one up there, and what kinda guy would I be not to purchase one after bugg`n him so much? First gotta save the money :)