Cc/neu Motors
 

I Would really like an update on these upcoming motors. What size will they be? what type? When are they being released?
There has been some speculations and rumors that the first will be a 1515size 1Y (2200Kv). And later on another 1515 sized motor and then some 1512 sized motors. Patric or Joe at CC, could either of you shed some light on the matter. I would be grateful. Thanks.

Castle has a Neu motor section on their website, you can order any 1500 series motor on there right now.

I Am asking about the upcoming CC/Neu motors, not the Neu motors.

Yeah thats right. Tower Hobbies has the combo listed on their site with the 2200kv motor. They will be bringing out the 1515's 1st and then later on 1512's

the combo just went from 280is to 349 on tower !!

Yeah & will probably still change at Tower before it comes out. How ever managed to back order it with their special coupon before the price change is lucky

They are the same thing except the CC's are green. CC is now a distributor and stocks Neu motors.

It has been fairly established that they are very similar but not the same. As i understand it some of the differences are:
-Casing closed
-Not carbon inside as the "real" Neu
-Wires comes out on the side, not in the back
-Probably heavier then the Neu?
-The motor shaft probably has a flat spot?

This is why i started this tread, i want more info about the differences because the Neu and CC (Neu design motors) are NOT the same. So Patric or Joe or someone elson from CC, i would really like to know more of your upcoming motors, i have several questions in my first post.
Thanks

I had it sitting in my cart at $287.99 and just processed the order now with a $35 coupon. :party:

I'm new to brushless so could somebody tell me which of the neu motors would fit in a 1/10 scale onroad touring car & an esc that can handle it

Pity you didnt use the 50 or 60 dollar one ;)

What $60 code?

well ive got a 50 code: 014fr for over 299. But a lot of the other guys were talking about buying it with the 60 code, so im guessing the yanks get a different set of codes to us.

The only $60 codes I have are if I spend $600. Not even sure that I need it since I already bought a Monster (from someone here) and a tekno neu. Just wanted a spare esc incase I have any problems with this one. Actually have just an esc on backorder too but will probably cancel that and just keep the combo.

Most of the higher $ codes you guys have won't work for anyone else. They only work if they were e-mailed to the address you have linked to your Tower account.

I got an email last night from Tower

http://i27.tinypic.com/67tfeh.jpg

Tried to use one of those and got this msg.

Ad number 014FH promotional offer can be redeemed only by those who received this offer from us. Please enter a valid Ad Number or leave blank

unlucky. Yeah I just read further on my email is says it must be bought from the accout with this email address.

Yeah, thought something like that would happen

So no news about pricing for the CC Neu? I'd expected the price to be about $150 or so, but now I'm not so sure with the combo being $350. The price for the ESC and motor is always cheaper when you buy in the combo, so I'm thinking the CC Neu may be closer to $200 or even more...

Any ideas as to a release? I'm wondering if the late Aug release posted on Tower is due to delays with the next batch of ESCs or the motors themselves.

Will both combos be available at the same time? (Both the 1515 and and the 1512) or will one of them being released before the other? And will the motors be sold seperatly from the start?

hey guys just wanted to confirm something, is this combo listed on tower http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...2&I=LNVJN3&P=K comes with a 1512 motor not a 1515 motor, is that correct ?

thanks
Yousef

I think thats the case...

patrick says it here;
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...851#post189851

Errrggggg, i wanted to get that KV to run in my revo on 4s, guess cant save money with the combo and should be looking for a 1515 1.5d and a MMM separately. thanks for the help anyways man:)

Yousef

some ppl are running a 1512 can w/o issue.

the medusa 60 is about that size...

also the 1512/2.5d, here;
http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=430566

well i`m thinking bigger is better and i dont want to stress a smaller motor, specially with our weather , our winter is around 59F and in summer it can hit 130F. so i think i`m going to get 1515 2d to run on 5S . well will c what happens :D

Yousef

I don't think these motors are going to be close to a real Neu. Probably much more then your normal Fiegao due to the four poles, but it can't even touch a real Neu. The windings will probably be of less quality and machine wound instead of genuine hand-wound Neu windings. I'm sure other things like the bearings, and rotor bounding material will be cheaper too.

No one will know until they are out though...

No, castle have confirmed on several different occasions the only differences are they are made in china, a different colour, have enclosed endbells, larger bearings, but no carbon bound rotor.

They are still handwound and are exactly the same in all other regards.

Material quality may differ...

The larger bearings might not be the same quality as the bearings used by Neu. I was part of the hype at the beginning, and I learned the windings will be machine wound, not hand wound. I could have even been in an email from Joe Ford, not on a forum.

Neu's have a 60,000 rpm limit. Does anyone know how many the CC/Neu's will be?

Well you better let Patrick del Castillo - the President and Principle Engineer of Castle Creations - know. He would probably be upset to find out they changed the plans behind his back. Link.

If you can open the motor you can always replace the bearings with some choice ones from Boca. It may cost you a bit, however, but it could be done.

It seems that the motors/combos might be a very long time until they get on the market..... first they where on Towerhobbis with a ETA that said August..... then it was early September, now it is mid October. My guess is that we should be happy if the combo is availible this year considering all the delivery problems with the MMM. By that i mean really availible, not pre-orders and such, i mean "in stock".... but i am definitly getting one, but not untill i am sure i dont have to wait a very long time like on the MMM:s. I just got my MMM V2 and i have to say..... the best controller i have ever had, so smooth! and a ton of power! I just keep my fingers crossed that there wount be any problems with it like there was on the V1.

hmm...

Still saying Neus will kick cc/neus A$$.:lol:

You never know if CC will use cheap materials on the motors...:wink:

I'd expect them to for the large price premium they carry. I think the CC Neu will perform very well and provide a good value for money when it comes out, similar to the Medusa motors.

Medusas are just as good as neus.
http://www.flyupyours.com/heli/dpr/neuvsmedusa4s.htm

The only thing the cc/neu motors would have on medusas would be size.

I'm sure they will be a great value for the money. We'll just have to see how good they are when the come out.

Well I like the fact that the CC/neu will have bigger bearings and removable ends. My Medusa 36-60-2K is lighter than my Neu. The Medusa is working very well & was almost exacty 1/2 the price. Mesuda will release a 2200Kv 36-60 soon. If it comes before the cc/neu I will probably get it instead.

I would think a 70mm Medusa would be a better comparison to Neu power-wise.

I would like to see a 3000 kv 60 or 70 mm medusa motor, just so i wouldn't need to use a 20 tooth pinion gear to get the speeds I want with 4s. The novak hv4.5 is just about right speed with a 9 tooth pinion gear, but that is too small. 12-16 tooth pinion gears seem to be about the right size - not too heavy and not oddly shaped.

right!!!!