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e-mikey 08.17.2008 10:39 PM

What's wrong here? Now with video!
 
After this little video (and a short one after it) all connectors are hot to the touch, the motor was very hot, and the esc was hot. All from like 10 seconds. When I take the motor off the spur, it spins fine.

I had something like this happen before, it turned out to be bad solder on the bullet. I checked the this time, one was loose so I soldered it better.


http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9...orissue001.jpg

brushlessboy16 08.17.2008 10:42 PM

sounds like cogging, try bumping up your start power

e-mikey 08.17.2008 10:48 PM

I'll try it right now, weird that it's been working for so long, then all of a sudden...

brushlessboy16 08.17.2008 10:49 PM

did you recently change gearing?

e-mikey 08.17.2008 10:57 PM

negative.. I tried medium, then high. It's amazing how quick it all heats up.

e-mikey 08.17.2008 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 202760)
did you recently change gearing?

I have been changing pinons a lot, yes. But no pinions I haven't already tried. Set screw is tight if that's what your thinking.

brushlessboy16 08.17.2008 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mikey (Post 202763)
I have been changing pinons a lot, yes. But no pinions I haven't already tried.


that is probably why, making the motor turn the wheels further per rotation, more load


remember your testing wihtout any airflow over the esc:whistle:

did the problem clear up?

e-mikey 08.17.2008 11:00 PM

In that video the throttle was pinned.

e-mikey 08.17.2008 11:01 PM

no. it's been like this since 6pm. The motor did get blistering hot with the 20t pinion earlier today.

brushlessboy16 08.17.2008 11:03 PM

hmm check the windings of your motor

e-mikey 08.17.2008 11:03 PM

How do I do that? This motor has no screws to open it up.

TruckBasher 08.17.2008 11:13 PM

Hard to see from the video but before the truck rolled forward was the spur rotating or just trying to rotate like going back and forth? If so you might want to check connection between motor and ESC it seems 1 phase is not working/connected properly.

e-mikey 08.17.2008 11:23 PM

I believe it's the motor. I hooked up my sidewinder and it did the same thing.

Any ideas of a next step? I feel the bullets are on there pretty good.

gimpygolden 08.17.2008 11:32 PM

My GTP with neu/quark set up did the same thing. It was a bad connection where the wires attach to esc. I re-soldiered it and all is good.

Arct1k 08.17.2008 11:34 PM

Can you give a close up pic of the wiring - thx

MTBikerTim 08.17.2008 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mikey (Post 202767)
no. it's been like this since 6pm. The motor did get blistering hot with the 20t pinion earlier today.

If the motor got blistering hot it sounds like you may have demagged your rotor.

e-mikey 08.17.2008 11:54 PM

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l9...g/IMG_2523.jpg

Best I can do with this lense

e-mikey 08.17.2008 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 202783)
If the motor got blistering hot it sounds like you may have demagged your rotor.

Anyway to tell for sure?

TruckBasher 08.18.2008 12:04 AM

Hard to say if there are cold solder from that picture. Either that or a failure on the rotor.. IMO

BrianG 08.18.2008 12:15 AM

I know from experience that a blown motor will get VERY hot. I tried a CD in my Revo and it unloaded so much that the motor (10XL) spun relatively unloaded. Well, that's bad and it got very hot. Next time I ran it, it had a lot less power but got blisteringly hot. Mine never cogged though. Someone else used the rotor for a 7XL motor and it ran fine, so the rotor was fine. The coils just somewhat burned up. So I wonder if the problem is not the rotor, but one of the coils?

As others have said, it could be a cold solder joint, or just a toasted motor. I would try resoldering. Hopefully it's just that...

bensf 08.18.2008 01:15 AM

Does it all work fine when you take the pinion off so theres no load on the motor?

e-mikey 08.18.2008 07:20 AM

Yes bensf, actually it does.

tc3_racer_001 08.18.2008 07:32 AM

thats really strange. same thing happened to my reedy 3 star in my tc3 last week and it would work fine if i pushed it (as if it was geared WAY high) then it was fine. motor was hotter than usual but the esc was quite hot... then i plugged it in again and it blew the caps and fets... grr... anyways castle wouldnt replace it under warranty (dodgy) anyway thats life.

spaz163 08.18.2008 08:21 AM

If you have had the motor out lately, maybe the mounting screws are hitting a coil and grounding out a phase... had it happen to my 8XL. Try shorter screws.


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