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Darion 09.01.2008 08:58 PM

Which ESC to back-up my MMM????
 
Like the title says, which ESC to back-up my MMM? I figure the MMM I just recieved could go up in smoke on me so which ESC would be a good choice to have waiting on deck? My setup is a Savage with tranny forward setup, Feigio 8xl and 4s 25C 5000 pack. Trans is locked into second and gearing is currently 18/47 but can be changed as needed. Also, I will be switching to a Neu motor, 1515 i figure, in the near future. I do not currently have an external BEC but will get one if needed.

Thanks in advance,

Darion

magman 09.01.2008 09:02 PM

Good question.....I have an MGM 160 that works great....even runs cooler than the mmm.

DRIFT_BUGGY 09.01.2008 09:06 PM

You could spend $20 and buy a ext. CC Bec (which is alot cheaper than another esc) and run the Ext. Bec off it until the problem has been worked out with the MMM.
If not, than could look at R1 Pro

magman 09.01.2008 09:09 PM

I was just thinking of the R1Pro. Tekin is working on a bigger controller for up to 6s I think...Judging from the positive feedback of the R1 Pro, it should be terrific and give Castle a run for their money. Tekin takes their sweet time releasing products, but, when they do, they are usually very good. Personally, I am willing to wait and use my MGM for now than to buy another MMM until all the bugs are worked out.

big greg 09.01.2008 09:25 PM

if you are running 4s then just get a mm, and a fan, imo if you are only using 4s you really dont gain anything running a MMM, since both my MM have been bulletproof to me

CRTIM 09.01.2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big greg (Post 207813)
if you are running 4s then just get a mm, and a fan, imo if you are only using 4s you really dont gain anything running a MMM, since both my MM have been bulletproof to me

would 4s on MM running a neu 1515 2.5d in a CRT X1 truggy work ok ??(just as a track racer no bashing if that matters )...thanks for the help

big greg 09.01.2008 10:02 PM

whats the kv on the 2.5? i run the 1y and its an awesome setup, i have no worry about heat

Semi Pro 09.01.2008 10:10 PM

i love my Hv110 it doesnt even get warm on 6 cell with a 1515 2.5d, but its only down fall is no reverse

wade7575 09.01.2008 10:13 PM

A Nue 1515 2.5 is 1700KV.

TruckBasher 09.01.2008 11:09 PM

My MM worked on Neu 1515 2.5d on my heavy emaxx with 6S A123 (close to 5S lipo) I should say it should work fine. But fans are necessity.. lipo cutoff worked fine for those cells but not sure how it would do on lipo. I know 4S + MM works fine for others...

traxxasbasher13 09.01.2008 11:10 PM

A mm with a fan is a great esc on 4s. And it should run pretty cool, a tekin R1Pro would be my second choice.

coolrunnings 09.01.2008 11:25 PM

What can you afford budget wise? I run a 160.24 and a 160.24 for backup and then just last weekend I bought a 160.24 to back those up! And if those all fail I'll use one of my mgm 224.18 controls.

Darion 09.02.2008 12:27 AM

First off thanks for all the replies.:yes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by magman (Post 207790)
Good question.....I have an MGM 160 that works great....even runs cooler than the mmm.

Thanks for pointing me in that direction, looks like a damn fine ESC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 207793)
You could spend $20 and buy a ext. CC Bec (which is alot cheaper than another esc) and run the Ext. Bec off it until the problem has been worked out with the MMM.
If not, than could look at R1 Pro

Considered doing this but I'm not sure that the built in BEC is the only issue I could face if I see a failure. My truck isn't a race truck so I may just run a acc. battery pack anyway to be safer, thanks for the tip though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by big greg (Post 207813)
if you are running 4s then just get a mm, and a fan, imo if you are only using 4s you really dont gain anything running a MMM, since both my MM have been bulletproof to me

I am only running 4s now but would like to go up a bit which is why I got the MMM as opposed to the MM. Ya know how these things go 4s is good now but 6s will be better in the future and so on.:wink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolrunnings (Post 207889)
What can you afford budget wise? I run a 160.24 and a 160.24 for backup and then just last weekend I bought a 160.24 to back those up! And if those all fail I'll use one of my mgm 224.18 controls.

So I guess you like the 160.24 huh? If I had that ESC I would be using the MMM as the back-up maybe. Well that model may be a bit out of my budget but the 160.18 is looking like a potential winner, what do you think?

Thanks again to all,

Darion

Semi Pro 09.02.2008 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade7575 (Post 207855)
A Nue 1515 2.5 is 1700KV.

yes it is, what does this have to do with anything?

coolrunnings 09.02.2008 12:52 AM

You mean the 160.24's ya their alright but I must confess there is another control mike has that has caught my eye its the mgm 120.32.

david lamontagn 09.02.2008 12:59 AM

NO....MORE....MGM....FOR....ME:mdr:

speedjunkie 09.02.2008 02:05 AM

as a back up will the mm run the neu 1.5d on 4s

DRIFT_BUGGY 09.02.2008 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Semi Pro (Post 207915)
yes it is, what does this have to do with anything?

2 posts above big greg was asking what the kv was

coolrunnings 09.02.2008 02:47 AM

David just because mgm esc's are to expensive for you doesnt mean you should hate them or tell everyone they are crap. The smartest most level headed guy on these forums is a man named mike cronin call him and ask him what his top pick for a controller is. Ask him what he runs...research bro.

david lamontagn 09.02.2008 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolrunnings (Post 207941)
David just because mgm esc's are to expensive for you doesnt mean you should hate them or tell everyone they are crap. The smartest most level headed guy on these forums is a man named mike cronin call him and ask him what his top pick for a controller is. Ask him what he runs...research bro.

This is not to expensive for me man, i've buy 3 of them in the last year, and on this 3, two of them died, and the other one, i can't tell it i've sale it when it was brand new.
I've about 6 years of experience in r/c electric truck, and i'am 100% sure that is not my setup the problem.
So the pro's guys like you says can run MGM, but this is not the reason that make me buy another one.
When a MMM died it's $169.00, and when a MGM died it's twice the price.
So you don't need 30 years of r/c experience to understand this!!!

If you have lot of $$$ to spend, so go, buy MGM, but for me and the majority of guys here, we don't want to take the chance to spend $300.00 for a controller who can died at any time.

And if 95% of the guys here ran MGM controller, believe me that the number of post like "My MGM died" will be more present here.

jayjay283 09.02.2008 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david lamontagn (Post 207974)

And if 95% of the guys here ran MGM controller, believe me that the number of post like "My MGM died" will be more present here.


Exactly !

big greg 09.02.2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRTIM (Post 207841)
would 4s on MM running a neu 1515 2.5d in a CRT X1 truggy work ok ??(just as a track racer no bashing if that matters )...thanks for the help

might be a bit slow on 4s. you could gear up and see:whistle:

Darion 09.02.2008 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david lamontagn (Post 207924)
NO....MORE....MGM....FOR....ME:mdr:

Quote:

Originally Posted by david lamontagn (Post 207974)
This is not to expensive for me man, i've buy 3 of them in the last year, and on this 3, two of them died, and the other one, i can't tell it i've sale it when it was brand new.
I've about 6 years of experience in r/c electric truck, and i'am 100% sure that is not my setup the problem.
So the pro's guys like you says can run MGM, but this is not the reason that make me buy another one.
When a MMM died it's $169.00, and when a MGM died it's twice the price.
So you don't need 30 years of r/c experience to understand this!!!

If you have lot of $$$ to spend, so go, buy MGM, but for me and the majority of guys here, we don't want to take the chance to spend $300.00 for a controller who can died at any time.

And if 95% of the guys here ran MGM controller, believe me that the number of post like "My MGM died" will be more present here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 207978)
Exactly !

Ok, so which ESC would you guys run as a back-up then? My set-up is above and the truck is for bashing. I would like to be able to go up to 6s and have reverse.

Thanks for your opinion,

Darion

TexasSP 09.02.2008 01:00 PM

Your only viable options to run 6s with car braking and reverse is the MMM and MGM at this point. Others are supposedly be worked on but at this point it's a crap shoot. The tekin R1MT/RX8 hasn't even had an update in the last few months of it's status and nothing is found on tekin's site about it. The losi is only 5s and not even released yet. Novak says they have one in the works but it took them 3 years just to add an LVC to the HV so........

coolrunnings 09.02.2008 06:17 PM

Ok you win, mgm is crap. Just kidding. David when you killed your 160.18's what set up were you running? What truck? How heavy was it (weight wise) what motor and battery did you use? How were you geared? How do you drive?

phatmonk 09.02.2008 07:31 PM

Whatelse another MMM V2

Darion 09.02.2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 208223)
Whatelse another MMM V2

:lol: Kind of a sad state of things when this looks like one of two best options for me, MGM the other, and all the kinks arn't worked out yet. Don't get me wrong here, feature for feature and value wise I love the MMM and I am sure when it all gets worked out it will be one great ESC but at the moment there seems to be alittle ways to go. Did a search on MGM and it would seem they have their fair share of issues also. To be fair to both however, most people that have issues are the ones that post, thats normal I would say, so how big an issue I really don't know?

One thing I think I have learned, it would seem that motors and batteries are well ahead of ESC's at least for the application I am looking at.

Thanks for all the replies,

Darion


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