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lincpimp 09.10.2008 10:38 AM

E-Slayer build on the horizon
 
So I made some "impulse" purchases yesterday:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=013

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWN:IT&ih=014

I have a ton of Revo spares floating around, so I figured that I could have some fun and "build" a Slayer! I was just going to buy the suspension assortment, but I saw the chassis lot and just had to have it. That way I can keep my tekno revo together, as it was going to be the donor truck.

I have a revo tranny that is locked in 2nd gear, with the wide ratio gearing. Going to use that with a hacker c50 13l on 5s lipo. Most likely going to give the MMM a try, but I have a quark 125b as a backup. Not sure on the gearing yet, but I will be using 1/8 buggy wheels and tires. I have a set of badlands, and some crimefighters.

Looks like a fun project, should have the parts in by the end of the week.

chip cross 09.10.2008 10:47 AM

After seeing all the goodies you have, I am sure it will be sick. :yes:

suicideneil 09.10.2008 11:07 AM

Cool, those were great deals for all those parts.

lincpimp 09.10.2008 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip cross (Post 211065)
After seeing all the goodies you have, I am sure it will be sick. :yes:

Thanks Chip, hope to have it done during the weekend... Should be a bolt together and I appear to have all of the parts I need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 211068)
Cool, those were great deals for all those parts.

Thats what I though, $180 shipped for most of the truck. Not sure what I could get if I bought a complete truck and sold what I did not need. I just did not feel like parting a truck out to recoup some money. Plus I know me, I would have pulled the nitro stuff and sold that, but keep the complete roller. So this way it is cheaper, and I can dip into my unused parts stock...

I have the tranny, knuckles, battery tray, motor mount, and body here. The tranny currently has a center diff, which I think I will leave in it. So it should handle well. I think the badlands wil be a good tire for this truck!

phatmonk 09.11.2008 09:00 PM

Lincpimp I bought a Slayer tonite and intend on converting it also so I will be following this thread.I allready have a MMM v2 and Tekno 1515/1.5d.Will the Tekno Revo conversion work with no additional needed items since its a Slayer.

lincpimp 09.11.2008 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 211588)
Lincpimp I bought a Slayer tonite and intend on converting it also so I will be following this thread.I allready have a MMM v2 and Tekno 1515/1.5d.Will the Tekno Revo conversion work with no additional needed items since its a Slayer.

It should work fine. I will be using the tekno battery tray, but have a different motor mount, as I do not care for the clutch. That 1.5d will be crazy in the slayer. I am going to run buggy wheels and badlands on my slayer. I am not all that impressed with the stock tires on the slash which are very similar to the tires on the slayer...

phatmonk 09.12.2008 02:10 PM

Will RCM motor mount allow a pinion and not the clutch.What mods. need to be done?Do I remove the Slayer transmission I am not familiar with the Tekno Revo conversion but I ordered 1 anyway.I have heard though that there is a center diff for the Revo?Slayer?I would prefer the pinion over the clutch.And I assume that I would not need the mech. brakes then.Thanks in advance.

crazysavage 09.12.2008 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 211622)
It should work fine. I will be using the tekno battery tray, but have a different motor mount, as I do not care for the clutch. That 1.5d will be crazy in the slayer. I am going to run buggy wheels and badlands on my slayer. I am not all that impressed with the stock tires on the slash which are very similar to the tires on the slayer...

Sounds like a crazy set up. I would advise the clutch set up with aggressive tires and the mech brakes to allow some tuning and some slippage in each respect. I know one thing, no matter which way you go, I wouldnt run it full throttle over your front lawn with those tires unless you want a bunch of little parallel drainage ditches criss crossing all over the place.

lincpimp 09.12.2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 211817)
Will RCM motor mount allow a pinion and not the clutch.What mods. need to be done?Do I remove the Slayer transmission I am not familiar with the Tekno Revo conversion but I ordered 1 anyway.I have heard though that there is a center diff for the Revo?Slayer?I would prefer the pinion over the clutch.And I assume that I would not need the mech. brakes then.Thanks in advance.

Unless you lock the 2 speed tranny in 2nd gear you will need to retain the mech brakes. The rcm mount allows the use of a std pinion. The tekno mount places the front of the motor farther to the rear to allow for use of their clutch adapter and the stock clutch. You can space the front plate of the tekno mount forward and use a pinion instead of the clutch.

You can buy a center diff for the revo, it should fit in the slayer, but has different gearing (I am not 100% on this, someone else will need to clarify). The internal gear ratios are different between the revo and salyer due to the smaller tires on the slayer.

phatmonk 09.12.2008 04:24 PM

Maybe the 1515/1.5d is too much.I think then maybe a 1512 or even a 1509.

crazysavage 09.12.2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 211841)
Maybe the 1515/1.5d is too much.I think then maybe a 1512 or even a 1509.

I think 1515 on 3s would be a great reliable set up with a good balance of weight on the chassis but I must say that the 1512 tossed my e-revo around like a rag doll on 4s but it was easy and smooth to real it in. The 1512 wont exceed 115 degrees no matter what I do. I'm very new to the brushless scene but I will have first hand knowledge of an E-slayer with MM, 3s and a lesser quality motor in a couple days. We will toss in the 1512 to campare.

bruce750i 09.12.2008 04:47 PM

60mm 2k medusa worked good in mine on 4s and shifting 20/36. So much air going thu the body it stayed around 120F motor & ESC. How many rpm's does the TRX3.3 make? What kv on 4s would be close to stock nitro speed?

phatmonk 09.12.2008 07:13 PM

Yes the Medusa is a great option.I have wanted to check these out.:whip:

lincpimp 09.12.2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 211879)
Yes the Medusa is a great option.I have wanted to check these out.:whip:

The slayer should be a bit lighter than a revo, and has much smaller tires. I would think that a Medusa 60mm would be fine. My hacker c50 13l is about that size, and those motors work great is 1/8 buggies, which are comparable to a slayer.

lincpimp 09.12.2008 07:40 PM

Got some parts!
 
Look what the mailman dropped off today:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2483.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2484.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2485.jpg

phatmonk 09.13.2008 05:46 PM

So I have a Tekno Slayer conversion a Slayer a MMM v2 a Motor now do I need a servo Y harness or a center diff conversion ?but the specs say on the Slayer that it has a forward only trans.Long story short is I want to go with a pinion and no clutch and use the MMM brakes.But on the otherhand the instructions for the conversion says I need a y servo harness when using the clutch setup.I have converted 2 1/8 buggies and a Losi 8T truggy those I have a good working knowledge of what to do but with the traxxas Slayer and 2 speed I need some guidance.Do I need RCM Motor mount?:wink:

chip cross 09.13.2008 11:36 PM

Are you done yet, my Slayer will be on the 16th and the Tekno conversion will be here on Monday. LMK when you ready for it. :rofl:

lincpimp 09.14.2008 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip cross (Post 212298)
Are you done yet, my Slayer will be on the 16th and the Tekno conversion will be here on Monday. LMK when you ready for it. :rofl:

I finshed the roller today, as I had to build mine from parts it took a few hours. Looks cool, that is for sure. I have a set of white ofna 5 spoke buggy wheels and some badlands on it, they look good with the black, red and white body off my slash.

Should have the electronics in it tomorrow, as long as I have time...

Final setup is a hacker c50 13l, quark 125b, ccbec, and a poly rc 3700 5s 25c lipo. Going to gear it for 45mph which should be 20/36 gearing. I am using a revo tranny locked in 2nd with the wide ratio 2nd gear. I understand the slayer has specific internal ratios to suit the smaller tires, I will just use a big pinion to compensate.

BL_RV0 09.14.2008 12:15 PM

That's gonna look and perform awesome!

lincpimp 09.14.2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 212437)
That's gonna look and perform awesome!

Why thank you, tiny kitty. That is a very cute kitty. Any reason you have that as your avatar pic? Or am I missing some sort of joke?

lincpimp 09.14.2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 212155)
So I have a Tekno Slayer conversion a Slayer a MMM v2 a Motor now do I need a servo Y harness or a center diff conversion ?but the specs say on the Slayer that it has a forward only trans.Long story short is I want to go with a pinion and no clutch and use the MMM brakes.But on the otherhand the instructions for the conversion says I need a y servo harness when using the clutch setup.I have converted 2 1/8 buggies and a Losi 8T truggy those I have a good working knowledge of what to do but with the traxxas Slayer and 2 speed I need some guidance.Do I need RCM Motor mount?:wink:

If you plan to use motor brakes you will have to lock the 2 speed in 2nd gear. There is a sticky in the brushless section by BrianG that will show you how to do it.

The FOC kit that the slay comes with is also needed, which is good since you already have it.

BL_RV0 09.14.2008 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 212460)
Why thank you, tiny kitty. That is a very cute kitty. Any reason you have that as your avatar pic? Or am I missing some sort of joke?

It's *supposed* to be looking at my name, with it's ears back it's thinking "BL_RV0 is god..." Or maybe I'm missing something...?

lincpimp 09.20.2008 07:46 PM

Picture time, so everyone can stop whining...
 
Here it is, just finished wiring it up...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2508.jpg

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2509.jpg

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http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF2513.jpg

No chance to run it yet, it is raining and I hate cleaning brand new r/cs...

TruckBasher 09.20.2008 10:16 PM

Nice...hopefully rain would stop tomorrow so you can make some runs....

Cant wait to get my mocked up slayer...

lincpimp 09.20.2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TruckBasher (Post 214671)
Nice...hopefully rain would stop tomorrow so you can make some runs....

Cant wait to get my mocked up slayer...

Have to spend the day with the wife, mandatory FQT...

I will get some time on it soon. If anyone was wondering why I have a pede rear shock tower bolted on, it is cause I am using a slash body, and the rear area of the body is different to the slayer body. It is sloped where it would have to be flat to use the revo rear body mount. Turns out that the pede rear body mount fit perfectly, even after I cut the new front body mount holes!!! Pure luck...

TruckBasher 09.21.2008 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 214725)
Have to spend the day with the wife, mandatory FQT...

ohh i forgot about that...Sunday = Family day :whistle:

lincpimp 09.21.2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TruckBasher (Post 214726)
ohh i forgot about that...Sunday = Family day :whistle:

I will try to weasel my way out of it!!!

xcntrk 09.21.2008 08:49 AM

Looking good!

Hopefully you have better handling luck then I have. I’m already down the road of full swaybars, changed spring out, etc, I hope that does the trick. Also as an FYI; the stock Slayer tranny comes with the “wide-ratio – 38/18” gear set as standard. So combined with the 36t spur and you’ll be running stock gearing.

What kv is a 13L? I’m guessing somewhere between 11L~14L puts it around 1950kv? On 5s you’ll be turning about 600rpm more then me and combined with 20t spur = you’ll be flying! My Slayer was uncontrollable geared for slower then this. I wish you luck and look forward to your feedback about this rig.

BL_RV0 09.21.2008 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 214738)
I will try to weasel my way out of it!!!

Give her your non-rc credit card, and a catalog to a fancy clothing store. Also fill up her car with gas. I don't think it'd be too hard to get yourself out of something like that!

lincpimp 09.21.2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcntrk (Post 214805)
Looking good!

Hopefully you have better handling luck then I have. I’m already down the road of full swaybars, changed spring out, etc, I hope that does the trick. Also as an FYI; the stock Slayer tranny comes with the “wide-ratio – 38/18” gear set as standard. So combined with the 36t spur and you’ll be running stock gearing.

What kv is a 13L? I’m guessing somewhere between 11L~14L puts it around 1950kv? On 5s you’ll be turning about 600rpm more then me and combined with 20t spur = you’ll be flying! My Slayer was uncontrollable geared for slower then this. I wish you luck and look forward to your feedback about this rig.

I am running a revo tranny with the wide ratio 2nd gear. The slayer has a different tranny case and the last two gears in it are different to the revo's. It has less reduction in the tranny to make up for the smaller tires. That is why I went with the 20/36 gearing, should give me top speed in the low 40mph range. The Hacker is somewhere around 2000kv.

From my limited tests in my office it has tons of power!! Easy wheelies and flips on carpet!

phatmonk 09.21.2008 09:17 PM

Heres some pics of the Slayer so far.I was gonna go with the Tekno clutch but changeed plans.It does have a tendency to want to flip but if you are carefull its controlable.It drives like a grape ape.I went with a Neu 1512/1.5d/f and 3s lipo 6000.Lincpimp can I go with a 18t pinion?It now has a 14T with stock forward only trans.I also ofcourse went with the mech.brakes.I did hammer on it a few times an the MMMv2 worked perfect.I was gonna use a mx3 fm radio but it glitched like crazy with the steering servo so for now it has the stock radio and no problems.:diablo::whip:

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lincpimp 09.22.2008 07:55 PM

I managed to get a few mins on the slayer today. I have to say that it will tracktion roll on concrete but handles reasonably well in the dirt/grass. It has plenty of power and will wheely easily. I do like the truck, very fun! I have a feeling that I would not be as fond of it with stock tires, if they are anything like the slash tires, they suck...

bruce750i 09.23.2008 07:30 PM

nice slayer! I bet those badlands will tear up some dirt.

lincpimp 09.27.2008 07:15 PM

The badlands have been doing great. I went out earlier for a good bash session. Used a 5s flightpower 5350 17c pack. I ran for at least 40 mins and still had not hit the cutoff. Temps are not bad either. I do like the truck, even though it likes to flip over if turning too fast. I usually lands on its tires... It just promotes better driving!

I just like the full body, and it jumps well too. I see my self running it more than my 1/8 buggy. Seems pretty strong, only broken an al pivot ball so far, and those were a dumb idea. I put steel ones back on the front suspension, as it seems to take the bulk of the hits.

phatmonk 09.27.2008 08:05 PM

I put a 4s 6000 in my Slayer and a 14t pinion and the 1512/1.5d/f and wow!!!!!!!!Temps were manageable the MMMv2 fan came on a couple times.The motor seems to run cooler with no cover over the front holes of the motor.I drove it for 30 minutes in medium grass.The Slayer so far has been quite durable.I also raced my Matrix buggy after the Slayer and I actualy enjoy the Slayer over the Buggy.I guess if I was driving a real Corr truck it would stand to reason that the turns that seem to flip the truck would also flip the Slayer.It seems true to scale.

If common sense was so common everyone would have it.

TruckBasher 09.27.2008 08:23 PM

This is certainly good news...cant wait to get my hand on my mocked up slayer...I envy you guys....

+1 on the better driving skill....even in MT and Truggy an unfamiliar driver will find it easy to flip it but given time they should be able to find the sweet spot....

phatmonk 09.28.2008 04:27 PM

I couldnt find where to post this question so I hope its ok to ask here.I have 2 5mm bore pinions 1 is a mod1 and the other is a 32 pitch how do I tell the differance.They look identical:oops:

lincpimp 09.28.2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 217039)
I couldnt find where to post this question so I hope its ok to ask here.I have 2 5mm bore pinions 1 is a mod1 and the other is a 32 pitch how do I tell the differance.They look identical:oops:

32 pitch has much smaller teeth. So if they are the same OD then the 32 pitch will have more teeth. If they look identical they are most likely both 32p or mod1...

phatmonk 09.28.2008 06:00 PM

Thanks they are both 17t and 1 of them is smaller so that would be the 32 pitch.The teeth look the same but the overall diameter of 1 of them is larger.


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