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rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:30 AM

E-Slayer Build
 
Well, I had to take the plunge.

Was so close to buying a Slash but was not impressed with the 2wd aspect of it.

When I saw that the slayer was based off the Revo chassis...I just had to have it...there is no better suspension geometry out there...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3266.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3267.jpg




Under the hood is a beautiful thing...yes a 3.3 Nitro Motor on this thing...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3268.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3269.jpg

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:33 AM

OK, enough of that non-sense...

Out with the old power...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3270.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3271.jpg



IN WITH THE NEW POWER!!!!

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3315.jpg

I would like to introduce you to.......


















E-SLAYER!!!!!!!!


http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3345.jpg

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:36 AM

Now for the build...

Doing some research on here it came down to two options with this conversion; 1 Build it from scratch like I did my savage or 2 find a conversion kit to help with some of the modifying.

Going with number 1 on my Savage created a lot of headaches, wasted funds and foolish purchases. I opted for number 2.

Now came the research time...I found out that the Slayer Chassis is the Revo Platinum Chassis so any of the Revo conversions should work.

I opt'd for Tekno due to the known quality and the use of the clutch bell set up. Plus a cool t-shirt
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3315.jpg

This kit includes a 5mm flywheel/clutchbell adapter; adjustable motor mount; battery tray; radio box; ESC mount and detailed instructions.

So to start you need to remove all the Nitro stuff from the the chassis which includes:
Fuel Tank, Tubing and Mounting Post
EZ Start and Wires
Exhaust Pipe and Hanger
Engine and Mount
Left Radio Box
Throttle Linkage and Return Spring
Receiver, Switch, Receiver Battery
Right Radio Box

trev3813 09.14.2008 11:38 AM

Looks great, and thanks for the info on the platinum chassis, i wanted one of those for my revo, (when ever i get one)

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:39 AM

Now you need to remove the flywheel off the engine.

The kit comes with an adapter that puts the whole clutch assembly onto a 5mm shaft of a BL Motor...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3316.jpg

You can then assemble the motor mount. This thing lays right in where the Nitro Engine mount set. It also gives you full adjustability for most popular BL Motors up to the length of and XL (what I am using)

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3317.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3331.jpg

It also gives you full adjustability for perfect mesh setting
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3332.jpg

Once you have that set...you are home free
Install the ESC Mount
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3318.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3319.jpg

Install the battery Tray and straps
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3330.jpg

You are pretty much done with the conversion...

phatmonk 09.14.2008 11:39 AM

Looks great did you stay with the 2 channel traxxas transmitter and split the signal for the brake/esc?I will receive my Slayer this week with conversion parts etc.

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 212419)
Looks great did you stay with the 2 channel traxxas transmitter and split the signal for the brake/esc?I will receive my Slayer this week with conversion parts etc.

I used a Spektrum DX3R just because I had it and am planning on racing it against those fume sniffers...

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:44 AM

Now comes the electronics...
When you are running a nitro tranny you must use the mechanical brake and disable the ESC brake. Wiring is easy by using a "Y" Connector where the ESC and Brake Servo go in the two sides and you plug it into the Receiver Throttle Slot.

So I had this small ESC laying around so I figured I would use it on this project... :o

It is a little thing called a Mamba Monster Maxx (MMM)...check out these specs:
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3336.jpg

The only way to appreciate the size is to compare it. The first pic is the motor wire next to a servo wire. The second is a stock bullet plug and the one's that come with the MMM. These things are huge!!!!
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3335.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3338.jpg

It comes with a built in fan that when it is spooling up sounds like a turbine...
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3334.jpg

So she is all ready to go...just waiting on a 5s LiPo to get this puppy going...

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:46 AM

Here is the combo that I am leaning to...Anything more than that will be uncontrollable with this rig... (Thanks BrianG)

The key to remember versus Nitro is that with BL it is instant speed...

Differential Ratio: 2.8461538461538463
Transmission Ratio: 1.5294117647058822
Spur Tooth Count: 36
Pinion Tooth Count: 17
Total Voltage: 18.5
Motor KV: 1668
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.6
Tire Ballooning (inches): .5
Motor coil Ω: 0.0114
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.12 : 1
Total Ratio: 9.21799 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 17.59 inches (446.86 mm)
Total Motor Speed: 30858 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 55.77 mph (89.59 km/h)
Estimated Adjusted Speed: 52 mph (83 km/h) - 8% loss
Effective KV Value: 1668
KT constant: 0.81 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Power: Amperage not specified...

lincpimp 09.14.2008 11:47 AM

Looks good, trying to finish up my slayer conversion. Could you tell me what color springs it uses front and rear? Can't seem to find that info...

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:48 AM

Well...bit the bullet and ordered the juice...

Thanks for the input Jason...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/CIMG3393.jpg

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rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:52 AM

OK..the kit does not allow for mounting the side bumper and I really want to keep it on. I notched the battery tray and Shoo Goo'd the side bumper to the battery tray. I hope that it holds.

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/IMG00014.jpg

Next thing was to cover that huge hole in the windshield to avoid material flying through. So I did what I used to with my Nitros. I used some mesh that is uses for repairing lexan and Shoo Goo'd it in place. To make it look better, I painted it red...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/IMG00018.jpg
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/IMG00017.jpg

Now I just need to get out and test it...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...r/IMG00020.jpg

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:53 AM

I was able, with my daughter's help, give the E-Slayer a test run...

OMG...this thing is sick and I didn't even change the gearing...

Didn't lock out first gear and may not...in the video, when you see the front come up... that was second gear... :gum:

Also, realized at top speed the brakes needed adjusted...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...erFirstRun.jpg

Cannot wait to get on a dirt track...

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 212426)
Looks good, trying to finish up my slayer conversion. Could you tell me what color springs it uses front and rear? Can't seem to find that info...

I am just using the stock set up...They are adjusted all the way out...I will probably preload them a little in the front to eliminate some nose diving but the rear are perfect...it handles exactly like a CORR Truck...

Takedown 09.14.2008 12:01 PM

Looks like shes a speed demon for sure. Great build.

phatmonk 09.14.2008 12:05 PM

Thanks for all the great pictures and details it helps to clarify some questions I had.I have a 1512/1.5d I will be using I was gonna use a 1515 but thats a overkill.:party::whip:

BL_RV0 09.14.2008 12:14 PM

Nah, get a 1527!

lincpimp 09.14.2008 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rckcrwlr (Post 212433)
I am just using the stock set up...They are adjusted all the way out...I will probably preload them a little in the front to eliminate some nose diving but the rear are perfect...it handles exactly like a CORR Truck...

Ok, but what color are the stock springs? They should be mainly red with little spots of color on the ends. Usually the front and rear are different colors...

BL_RV0 09.14.2008 01:23 PM

I think stock setup was silver up front and green in rear. I may be mistaken.

lincpimp 09.14.2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 212479)
I think stock setup was silver up front and green in rear. I may be mistaken.

5433A Spring, shock (red) (GTR) (1.4 rate double pink stripe)
5434A Spring, shock (red) (GTR) (1.6 rate double blue stripe)
5940 Spring, shock (red) (GTR) (1.8 rate double green stripe)
5941 Spring, shock (red) (GTR) (2.0 rate double black stripe)
5942 Spring, shock (red) (GTR) (2.3 rate double purple stripe)
5427 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (front 0.7 yellow) (1 pair)
5428 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (front) (0.9 rate orange)
5432 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (front) (1.3 rate gold)
5429 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (rear) (1.0 rate tan)
5431 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (rear) (1.2 rate silver)
5434 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (rear) (1.6 rate blue)
5430 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (std. front) (1.1 rate green)
5433 Spring, shock (white) (GTR) (std. rear) (1.4 rate pink)
5998 Sway bar kit, Slayer (front and rear) (includes front and rear sway bars and adjustable linkage)

Weird how they list 5430 and 5433 as the std springs, but 5433a and 5434a are listed in the exploded diamgram as the stock springs. The pictures show red springs, bit i wonder if I can use the white springs with the same rates?

rckcrwlr 09.14.2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 212586)
5433A Spring, shock (red) (GTR) (1.4 rate double pink stripe)
5434A Spring, shock (red) (GTR) (1.6 rate double blue stripe)

These are the stock one's on the Slayer...

DRIFT_BUGGY 09.15.2008 12:30 AM

Very nice, how is the V1 MMM holding up?

rckcrwlr 09.15.2008 07:59 AM

Not a problem at all...but really haven't pushed it yet

xcntrk 09.15.2008 02:39 PM

How’s it do in the corners? I’m having a terrible time with mine. It looks to be of similar speed as yours, but as soon as you touch the steering input at that kind of speed, over it goes. I have to slow down and scrub a significant amount of speed way before entering a corner just so I can steer around it without rolling over.

rckcrwlr 09.15.2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xcntrk (Post 212827)
How’s it do in the corners? I’m having a terrible time with mine. It looks to be of similar speed as yours, but as soon as you touch the steering input at that kind of speed, over it goes. I have to slow down and scrub a significant amount of speed way before entering a corner just so I can steer around it without rolling over.

On asphalt or dirt????

On asphalt, it is going to...with the smaller wheels and tires you don't get the forgiveness as you would with big revo wheels. also there is less contact. Sway bars may help plant the tires better.

I haven't ran mine on dirt yet...I would think that it will slide before flipping based on what I have seen so far...

bruce750i 09.15.2008 03:04 PM

Nice video. Who's looking out for cars? I'm running red springs white dot in front and red springs orange dot in back on 30wt, High speed turns still blows. My stock red springs were like two colors pink/white on front and something eles for the back.

xcntrk 09.15.2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 212459)
Ok, but what color are the stock springs? They should be mainly red with little spots of color on the ends. Usually the front and rear are different colors...

The stock slayer spring color is PINK in the front and BLUE in the rear.
:intello:

BrianG 09.15.2008 10:03 PM

Since the Slayer is built on the Revo platform, the CoG is a bit higher than ideal. The Revo even rolls unless you make it sit fairly low and/or use offset tires, and the Revo is quite a bit wider. I would lower it and use sway bars if cornering stability is your concern.

rckcrwlr 09.15.2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 213021)
Since the Slayer is built on the Revo platform, the CoG is a bit higher than ideal. The Revo even rolls unless you make it sit fairly low and/or use offset tires, and the Revo is quite a bit wider. I would lower it and use sway bars if cornering stability is your concern.

Thanks for the input, Brian.

I am not sure of swaybars for the dirt though...I will have to test it.

Blocker 09.16.2008 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rckcrwlr (Post 213050)
Thanks for the input, Brian.

I am not sure of swaybars for the dirt though...I will have to test it.



I wouldn't even think of running a Revo type suspension on any surface without some kind of sway bar. There is a ton of body roll regardless of it being a Slayer or Revo, dirt or pavement. The sway bar kit one of the biggest performance upgrades you can add to the truck.


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